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Eating Healthy But STILL Have Insulin Resistance (this is what’s doing it)
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Eating Healthy But STILL Have Insulin Resistance (this is what’s doing it)

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Eating a meal with both high fat and high carbs can cause 'mitochondrial gridlock,' increasing insulin resistance via DAG (diacylglycerol) fat that blocks insulin signaling and reduces glucose uptake by 43%.

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Thomas DeLauer recommends separating high-fat and high-carb meals: start the day with 60-100g protein plus moderate fat, and have a lower-fat, higher-protein, moderate-carb meal in the evening.

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Distinct breaks between meals, with no snacking, allow mitochondria to recharge and maintain insulin sensitivity; apple cider vinegar with carb meals can also help.

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Thrive Market (sponsor) provides vetted high-quality groceries; DeLauer offers a 30% off first order and free gift via his link.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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High-protein morning meal

WhatConsume 60-100g of protein with moderate amounts of healthy fat (e.g., avocado, heavy cream) as the first meal.
WhenFirst meal of the day.
Dose60-100g protein; fat moderate, not quantified.
For whomAnyone trying to reduce insulin resistance, especially those who eat carbohydrates later in the day.
WhyTriggers the protein threshold in the hypothalamus to downregulate appetite, prevents overeating later, and avoids early carb intake that could later combine with fat.
CaveatsIf you do not eat carbs at all, you can skip this separation and just keep fats lower at night if desired.

DeLauer references a previous video on the 'protein leverage hypothesis' to explain that the brain recognizes a certain protein intake and reduces hunger signals accordingly. By hitting 60-100g protein at breakfast, you naturally eat fewer calories the rest of the day, alleviating total overnutrition. The moderate fat adds satiety without overloading mitochondria, and the absence of carbs ensures that the morning signaling cascade isn't jammed. This sets a metabolic tone of insulin sensitivity for the day.

Mechanism

Protein intake stimulates gut hormones (e.g., CCK, PYY) and directly signals the hypothalamus via amino acid sensing, leading to reduced hunger and spontaneous calorie reduction. By avoiding carbs in the morning, insulin stays lower, preventing an early trigger for fat storage that might coincide with later fat intake.

I would even go so far as saying 60-100 g of protein with that early meal, really, okay? At a moderate amount of some avocado, maybe some good healthy fats, right? ... Maybe even a little good quality saturated fat, like some heavy cream.

Also said
“it actually signals to your hypothalamus that you've reached what is called the protein threshold. ... brain recognizes when you've reached certain protein thresholds, and it actually downregulates the appetite.”— Explains the appetite control mechanism behind the protein amount.

Macronutrient separation across meals

WhatAvoid eating high amounts of fat and carbohydrates in the same meal; instead, allocate carbs to a later meal that is lower in fat, and reserve higher-fat meals for when carbs are low.
WhenThroughout the day, with carb-containing meals scheduled later (e.g., dinner) and kept lower in fat.
DoseNo strict numbers beyond 'lower fat, higher protein, moderate carb' for the carb meal.
For whomPeople who eat carbohydrates and want to maintain insulin sensitivity.
WhyPrevents mitochondrial gridlock and DAG formation by not overwhelming mitochondria with simultaneous glucose and fatty acid influx.
CaveatsIf you are low-carb or keto, you don't need to separate; just keep fats moderate, especially at night.

This protocol stems directly from the earlier mechanistic explanation. Because mitochondria can only process a limited amount of mixed fuel at once, sending in a surge of both glucose (from carbs) and fatty acids (from fat) forces the cell to accumulate intermediates like DAG, which impair insulin signaling. By separating the fuels temporally—eating a high-fat, low-carb meal in one window and a low-fat, high-carb meal in another—the mitochondria can handle each load efficiently. DeLauer's suggested layout spreads high-fat with protein in the morning, a lighter veggie-centric middle meal, and the carb-heavy meal at night with minimal added fat. He notes that carbs at night won't disrupt sleep unless eaten immediately before bed, and actually support nutrient partitioning without overload.

Mechanism

Mitochondria oxidize either glucose or fatty acids as primary fuel; when both are abundant, the cell faces a metabolic bottleneck. Excess substrates are shunted into lipid storage, including DAG, which activates protein kinase C and serine phosphorylation of IRS-1, causing insulin resistance. Spacing fuels avoids this competitive inhibition.

If we have a hard time utilizing fats and carbs at one time, why don't we separate our carbs and protein to one meal and our fats and protein to another?

Also said
“start your day with higher protein, moderate fat. ... in your last meal of the day ... lower fat, higher protein, and moderate carb.”— Concrete daily template.
“It's not going to disrupt your sleep unless you eat them right before bed. As a matter of fact, it's going to partition your nutrients in such a way that you're not going to have this nutrient overload.”— Addresses common concern about evening carb intake.

Distinct breaks between meals (no snacking)

WhatAvoid eating between defined meal times; allow several hours of no food intake so that mitochondria and insulin signaling can reset.
WhenBetween each meal—morning to midday, midday to evening.
DoseNot specified; aim for clear, distinct breaks without calorie intake.
For whomAnyone, especially those with insulin resistance or frequent snacking habits.
WhyThe mitochondria need breaks from fuel to recharge and clean up; constant eating keeps insulin levels elevated and desensitizes the body to insulin.
CaveatsNot stated.

DeLauer stresses that a primary driver of insulin resistance isn't just what you eat but the lack of pauses between eating. Constant grazing prevents insulin levels from dropping and denies mitochondria the opportunity to undergo maintenance processes like mitophagy and resetting of redox state. By compressing eating into a few distinct meals with ample gaps, the body regains sensitivity to insulin and glucose, making each meal's metabolic impact cleaner. This is framed as the most important takeaway—'Chill on the snacking.'

Mechanism

Insulin signaling requires periods of low insulin/glucose to maintain receptor sensitivity; continuous fuel delivery promotes chronic insulin elevation and downregulation of receptors, as well as accumulation of lipid intermediates. Mitochondrial breaks allow for clearance of metabolic byproducts.

The mitochondria need breaks from fuel. Breaks from fuel allow the mitochondria to recharge, to actually clean up.

Also said
“Chill on the snacking. Have these clear defined breaks between meals.”— Direct, memorable instruction.
“A lot of the problem isn't just all the food coming in at one. It's the ... never giving us a break. That's ... not good for the mitochondria.”— Reinforces the cumulative damage of frequent eating.

Apple cider vinegar with carbohydrate meals

WhatTake apple cider vinegar in water alongside meals that contain carbohydrates.
WhenWith carbohydrate-rich meals, particularly the evening carb meal.
DoseNot specified; typical usage would be 1-2 tablespoons diluted.
For whomAnyone eating carbs, especially those with insulin resistance.
WhyDelays gastric emptying and enables alternative fuels to enter mitochondria, improving carbohydrate handling and insulin sensitivity.
CaveatsNone given.

DeLauer briefly mentions this as an additional tool to support the separation strategy. By slowing gastric emptying, ACV reduces the rapid glucose spike, giving the mitochondria more time to process the incoming fuel and potentially shifting the cell toward better metabolic flexibility. He suggests that it 'allows for alternative fuels to get into the mitochondria,' which might refer to promoting a more favorable NAD+/NADH ratio or ketone utilization, though he doesn't elaborate.

Mechanism

Acetic acid in vinegar inhibits amylase and delays stomach emptying, leading to a blunted postprandial glucose response. It may also increase AMPK activation and improve mitochondrial efficiency.

Apple cider vinegar with carbohydrate-rich meals does make a difference. It does delay the gastric emptying, and it does allow for alternative fuels to get into the mitochondria, therefore helping how we use the [energy].

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Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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DAG fat disrupts insulin signaling

Diacylglycerol (DAG), an improperly stored fat, acts like a sticky obstruction on insulin receptor substrate 1, halting the insulin signaling cascade—a study in Diabetes showed it reduced glucose uptake by 43%.

Why this matters: Quantifies the insulin resistance effect of a specific fat intermediate rarely discussed in lay terms, shifting focus from carb intake alone to fat storage dynamics.

Background

Most people believe insulin resistance is solely about carbohydrates, but insulin also governs fat storage; poor fat handling leads to systemic metabolic blockages.

DeLauer uses a domino analogy: insulin signaling is a cascade where eating carbs triggers dominoes to fall. DAG forms a sticky piece of gum on the critical domino, insulin receptor substrate 1 (IRS-1), stopping the signal. This is why after a carb-heavy meal someone might feel lethargic and get winded climbing stairs—the system literally jams. He cites a journal Diabetes study showing that elevated DAG decreased glucose disposal by 43%, meaning a dramatic drop in insulin sensitivity. The underlying cause is 'overnutrition': consuming too many calories, especially in meals that deliver both high fat and high carbs at once, overwhelms the mitochondria and leads to DAG accumulation. This positions DAG not just as a byproduct but as a direct molecular culprit in diet-induced insulin resistance.

when this DAG, this improperly stored fat, was elevated, it decreased the glucose by 43%. So it decreased insulin sensitivity, increasing insulin resistance by 43%

Also said
“That seemingly perfectly balanced meal with the carbs, the fats, and the protein could actually be backfiring and increasing insulin resistance up 43%.”— Frames the entire argument around the 43% figure from the study.
“Think of the entire insulin signaling process as a chain of dominoes falling. ... that fat sort of forms a sticky piece of gum on one of the dominoes ... That domino is insulin receptor substrate one.”— Provides the intuitive domino analogy explaining the mechanism.

mitochondrial gridlock from combined fat and carb meals

When a meal contains both substantial fat and carbohydrates, mitochondria can be overwhelmed with fuel simultaneously, leading to a 'gridlock' that promotes DAG formation and insulin resistance.

Why this matters: Challenges the conventional 'balanced meal' plate by suggesting that combining macros can create a metabolic traffic jam that underlies insulin resistance.

Background

Standard dietary advice often advocates for a balanced meal with carbs, protein, and fat, but DeLauer argues that high concentrations of both carbs and fat at once may exceed mitochondrial capacity.

DeLauer explains that sugar alone or saturated fat alone are not particularly problematic, but the combination triggers overnutrition at a mitochondrial level. He introduces 'mitochondrial gridlock': mitochondria can only process so much fuel at a given time. When a meal provides a flood of both glucose and fatty acids, the mitochondria bottleneck, forcing the cell to store the excess as DAG. He invites listeners to recall personal moments—eating a steak alone feels fine, but steak with rice leaves them feeling sluggish—suggesting it's not the carbs alone but the simultaneous fat-plus-carb load that causes the crash. This gridlock state not only forms DAG but also prevents proper energy utilization, making the body 'numb' to insulin. The fix, therefore, isn't necessarily eliminating any single macro, but spacing them out to keep the mitochondrial fuel supply manageable.

Something called mitochondrial gridlock, where the mitochondria could only handle so much fuel at once.

Also said
“Have you ever noticed that sometimes you could just eat like a steak and feel totally fine, and then other times like you have that steak and maybe it's on some rice or something like that and you don't feel good? ... What if it was actually the combination of just too many calories at once and too many fats and carbs coming in at one time?”— Illustrates the subjective experience of mitochondrial gridlock in everyday terms.
“sugar on its own really isn't that problematic, really. I mean, I hate to say it, but also saturated fat on its own is not really problematic. ... It's when they're combined”— Highlights the contrarian stance that macronutrient combination, not individual components, is the culprit.

macronutrient separation to avoid insulin resistance

Instead of eating all macros together, DeLauer proposes structuring the day so that high-fat meals are separated from high-carb meals, with the evening carb meal being lower in fat and preceded by a high-protein morning meal.

Why this matters: A pragmatic, non-calorie-restrictive strategy grounded in the concept of mitochondrial fuel management, contrasting with typical mixed-meal prescriptions.

Background

People often eat three mixed-macro meals and snack throughout the day, which DeLauer says contributes to chronic overnutrition and insulin desensitization.

The core recommendation is to avoid pairing large amounts of dietary fat with large amounts of carbohydrates in a single sitting. DeLauer suggests a daily template: the first meal of the day is high in protein (60-100g) with moderate fat (e.g., avocado, heavy cream), which helps reach the 'protein threshold' that tells the hypothalamus to downregulate appetite, naturally reducing overall intake. The last meal of the day, if carbohydrates are eaten, becomes lower fat, higher protein, and moderate carb, ensuring carbs aren't combined with a heavy fat load. Between these, a lighter meal with veggies can fill the gap. Importantly, he emphasizes that if you don't eat carbs, you don't need this separation; you can just keep evening fat lower if needed. The approach is not about severe restriction but about honoring the mitochondria's capacity and keeping insulin sensitivity high through meal composition timing.

If we have a hard time utilizing fats and carbs at one time, why don't we separate our carbs and protein to one meal and our fats and protein to another?

Also said
“start your day with higher protein, moderate fat. ... I would even go so far as saying 60-100 g of protein with that early meal”— Specific dosing for the morning protein threshold effect.
“in your last meal of the day ... you're going to go lower fat, higher protein, and moderate carb.”— Precise composition of the evening meal to avoid fat-carb combination.
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Thrive Market

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Used as an example of a source for high-quality groceries that avoid problematic additives and preservatives, which DeLauer says are important for reducing inflammation and metabolic dysfunction.

DisclosureThomas DeLauer discloses that Thrive Market is a long-time channel supporter and that he has used them for about a decade; he provides a link for 30% off the first order plus a free gift.

DeLauer argues that metabolic dysfunction and insulin resistance aren't just about carbs, protein, and fat, but also about food quality and inflammation. He endorses Thrive Market because they vet ingredients and reject hundreds of brands that contain 'garbage ingredients.' He has been a customer for close to a decade, overlapping with the channel's existence, underscoring an alignment of values. The link offers 30% off the first grocery order and a free gift.

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Unlike typical grocery stores, Thrive Market screens out products with certain undesirable ingredients, making it easier to shop for clean, high-quality items that support metabolic health.

Personal experience

I've been using them for close to a decade. They've been a supporter of this channel for close to a decade cuz we are super aligned.

I put a link down below for 30% off your first grocery order through Thrive Market. ... They reject hundreds if not thousands of different ingredients and all kinds of brands they reject and turn away because they don't want the garbage ingredients.

Also said
“They are a great place to get good quality groceries that have been vetted, okay? They reject hundreds if not thousands of different ingredients.”— Reinforces the vetting process.
“I've been using them for close to a decade. They've been a supporter of this channel for close to a decade cuz we are super aligned.”— Discloses long-term personal use and sponsorship alignment.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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that seemingly perfectly balanced meal with the carbs, the fats, and the protein could actually be backfiring and increasing insulin resistance up 43%.
Opening hook that introduces the counterintuitive thesis with a specific percentage.
I hate to say it, but also saturated fat on its own is not really problematic.
Contrarian stance that flips the usual dietary fat narrative.
The mitochondria need breaks from fuel.
Concise, memorable summation of the anti-snacking argument.
Chill on the snacking. Have these clear defined breaks between meals.
Direct, actionable, and informal health advice.
What we think is a perfectly balanced meal isn't always.
Challenges the foundational diet rule many follow.

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insulin-resistancedag-fatinsulin-receptor-substrate-1mitochondrial-gridlockovernutritionmacronutrient-separationprotein-thresholdmeal-timingapple-cider-vinegarthrive-marketsnackingglucose-uptake
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