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We Need to Talk About Keto (The Two Different Kinds)
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We Need to Talk About Keto (The Two Different Kinds)

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Thomas DeLauer distinguishes two modes of ketogenic diet: therapeutic (long-term for weight loss, metabolic health, inflammation) and performance (short-term stressor to enhance adaptation, recovery, and strength).

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Therapeutic benefits include improved satiety, reduced insulin, lower glycemic medication use (from 57.7% to 26.8% in a 2-year study), potential longevity via NAD/sirtuins/FOX3 upregulation, and neuroinflammation reduction via BHB inhibition of the NLRP3 inflammasome.

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Performance keto, used for 3 months or less, increased fat loss and sprint power in a 12-week athlete study, improved recovery and lactate clearance in a rodent study, and yielded equal 1RM strength gains with higher testosterone in a 10-week resistance training study.

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He advocates for performance keto as a tool with protein priority over fat, whole-food sourcing, and limiting protein shakes; recommends ButcherBox as a convenient high-quality meat delivery service.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Short‑term ketogenic adaptation block for performance

WhatImplement a ketogenic diet (low carb, high protein, moderate fat) for a maximum of 3 months to induce metabolic adaptations that improve fat oxidation, lactate clearance, sprint power, and recovery.
WhenDuring a dedicated training cycle when seeking a performance edge; cycle off after 3 months or less.
Dose3 months or less. Studies cited ranged from 10 to 12 weeks.
For whomTrained athletes or individuals open to experimenting with short‑term dietary stress to improve body composition and performance, not those requiring therapeutic ketosis for neurological conditions.
WhyThe hormetic stress from low glucose elevates reactive oxygen species, triggering protective adaptations, increasing fatty acid utilization, and improving lactate clearance. This enhances both endurance and high‑intensity output without requiring permanent dietary change.
CaveatsProtein must remain high to protect muscle mass; not intended for indefinite use; monitor energy and performance; may not be suitable for elite athletes needing maximum glycogen for competition without testing.

DeLauer emphasizes that all performance benefits he cites come from studies of 12 weeks or less. The key insight is that keto is a stressor—like exercise—that forces the body to adapt. A 12‑week athlete study showed increased fat loss, improved 6‑second sprint power, and higher critical power. A rodent model showed lower lactate and creatine kinase after exhaustive exercise, implying better recovery. A 10‑week resistance training study found equal strength gains and higher testosterone. He therefore treats keto as a short‑term 'weapon' you deploy for specific goals, then withdraw.

Mechanism

The stress increases mitochondrial biogenesis and ROS‑mediated antioxidant upregulation (FOX3). Elevated fatty acid oxidation provides more sustained energy. Omega‑3‑rich fats improve cell membrane fluidity, possibly enhancing oxygen delivery. Lactate is cleared more efficiently via the Cori cycle, reducing fatigue. Dietary cholesterol supports testosterone synthesis.

These studies have all been 3 months or less. Because what I want to suggest here is that you do not need a longer‑term ketogenic protocol to obtain the performance benefit.

Also said
“They had an increase in their 6‑second sprint power as well, which goes against the grain from what people would normally think.”— Shows anaerobic performance can benefit, contradicting common skepticism.

Protein‑first performance keto

WhatWhile using keto for performance, prioritize high protein intake from whole foods, keeping dietary fat moderate rather than extremely high.
WhenDaily during the performance keto phase.
DoseNo specific gram target given; the principle is 'higher protein, lower fat' relative to classical therapeutic keto.
For whomAnyone using keto to enhance physical performance, especially those in strength or power sports.
WhyAdequate protein is essential for muscle protein synthesis, strength retention, and satiety. For performance goals, muscle preservation outweighs the need to maximize blood ketone levels.
CaveatsIf therapeutic ketosis (e.g., for epilepsy or neurological conditions) is required, consult a clinician—higher protein may reduce ketone production.

DeLauer directly states he would rather see someone increase protein and keep fat a little lower than vice versa. He argues protein is what 'spares the muscle' and signals the body to retain that muscle, which he considers akin to preserving life. He points out that for performance, high dietary fat should not come at the expense of protein. He also suggests limiting protein shakes to reduce reliance on processed supplements and to focus on nutrient‑dense whole foods.

I would rather you increase protein levels and keep fat a little bit lower than vice versa because I think protein is going to be what ultimately spares the muscle.

Also said
“Whenever possible, go with whole foods, go with meats, go with fish, go with even plant‑based whole foods if you can just to get protein in.”— Shows the emphasis on whole food sources over supplements.

Whole‑food protein sourcing

WhatObtain the majority of dietary protein from whole food sources such as meats, fish, and plant‑based options rather than relying on protein shakes.
WhenAs a general rule while following the performance keto protocol.
For whomAll performance keto practitioners.
WhyWhole foods provide a broader spectrum of nutrients, improve satiety, and reduce dependence on processed supplements.

DeLauer mentions limiting protein shakes and going for meats, fish, and plant‑based whole foods. This recommendation ties into his emphasis on food quality and sustaining the body's performance via natural sources. He does not forbid shakes entirely, but encourages making them the exception rather than the rule.

Try to limit the protein shakes so you're really going more from those whole food forms.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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keto-as-tool-not-lifestyle

DeLauer now treats keto as a targeted intervention—a weapon for specific improvements—rather than a permanent lifestyle, distinguishing between therapeutic and performance use cases.

Why this matters: Shifts away from an all-or-nothing identity, offering a flexible framework that may reduce dogmatism and improve strategic application.

Background

Traditionally, keto is promoted as a continuous way of eating. DeLauer previously lived it as a lifestyle but now views it as a tool in the toolbox.

He emphasizes that you must look at keto with 'two very different lenses' to get long-term benefit. The therapeutic lens addresses health issues like obesity, diabetes, inflammation. The performance lens leverages short-term hormetic stress to trigger adaptations. He notes that while there is overlap, the intention behind the protocol determines which bag you pull from. This reframe allows people to use keto strategically rather than feeling locked in.

Personal experience

He says, 'Although it is a lifestyle for many people, and it has been for me in the past, now it is a tool in the toolbox.'

I look at keto as weaponizing it, seeking specific improvements with things. I don't try to look at it as a lifestyle.

short-term-performance-keto-as-stressor

For performance, keto acts as a hormetic stressor; benefits like improved fat oxidation, lactate clearance, and recovery can be achieved with protocols of 3 months or less, not requiring long-term adaptation.

Why this matters: Challenges the common belief that keto adaptation requires months and undermines high-intensity performance; instead argues it can boost sprint power and critical power in trained athletes when used briefly.

Background

Conventional wisdom says keto hampers explosive efforts and needs long adaptation. DeLauer presents evidence that short-term ketogenic phases in athletes improved 6‑second sprint power and critical power alongside fat loss.

He highlights that all performance studies cited lasted 3 months or less. The stress of low glucose elevates reactive oxygen species, which in turn triggers the body’s own antioxidant defenses and adaptations. A 12‑week study on trained athletes showed a 4‑12% increase in body fat loss at equal calories, plus improvements in sprint and HIIT performance. A rodent study found lower lactate and creatine kinase after exhaustive exercise, suggesting better recovery. For strength, a 10‑week resistance training study showed identical 1RM gains between keto and high‑carb groups, but the keto group had higher testosterone. This positions keto as a targeted stressor to be cycled, not permanently adopted.

The benefit from keto comes from the reactive oxygen species kind of increase. So, you increase the stress in the body. So, the body gets better. It gets better. It helps you clear lactate.

Also said
“These studies have all been 3 months or less.”— Underscores that performance benefits do not require long‑term commitment.
“They had an increase in their 6‑second sprint power as well, which goes against the grain from what people would normally think.”— Directly contradicts the narrative that keto harms anaerobic performance.

protein-priority-over-fat-for-performance

On a performance‑oriented ketogenic diet, DeLauer now prioritizes high protein intake from whole foods over high fat, reversing the classical therapeutic keto macro hierarchy.

Why this matters: Inverts the standard keto advice of high fat to drive ketones; argues that for muscle preservation and athletic output, protein is the key macronutrient.

Background

Therapeutic keto often restricts protein to maintain deep ketosis. DeLauer sees this as suboptimal for athletes whose primary goal is performance, not therapeutic ketone levels.

He states, 'I would rather you increase protein levels and keep fat a little bit lower than vice versa because I think protein is going to be what ultimately spares the muscle.' He emphasizes that protein is 'life' and signals muscle retention. He recommends getting protein from whole foods—meats, fish, even plant‑based—rather than shakes. This aligns with his tool‑based view: when you're not chasing neurological ketosis, protein’s role in supporting training adaptation and longevity takes precedence. He advocates this as a practical, short‑term performance strategy.

I would rather you increase protein levels and keep fat a little bit lower than vice versa because I think protein is going to be what ultimately spares the muscle.

Also said
“Whenever possible, go with whole foods, go with meats, go with fish, go with even plant‑based whole foods if you can just to get protein in.”— Provides actionable guidance on sourcing protein.
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Personal experience

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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I look at keto as weaponizing it, seeking specific improvements with things.
Concise, powerful reframe of keto as a targeted tool rather than an identity.
I would eat dog poop if it would make me perform better. It's all about what is working and using it as a tool.
Memorable, hyperbolic statement that underscores his purely pragmatic, performance‑driven mindset.
Insulin is not the enemy. Insulin is absolutely our friend in many situations, but it's also a big problem in today's society.
Offers a balanced view on insulin, nuanced for a keto audience that often demonizes it.
Performance keto is all about seeking that specific improvement.
Encapsulates the entire performance‑focused philosophy in one line.
When you stress the body to a certain degree in a positive way, you create an antioxidant response the body.
Simplifies the hormesis concept that underpins his performance keto rationale.
The benefit from keto comes from the reactive oxygen species kind of increase. So, you increase the stress in the body. So, the body gets better.
Directly ties the mechanism of action to the outcome, making the case for short‑term stress.

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