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Behind the scenes of the elite special forces GROM operation - Arek "Motyl" Dembiński
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Behind the scenes of the elite special forces GROM operation - Arek "Motyl" Dembiński

Cyprian Majcher
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Arek 'Motyl' Dembiński, a former GROM operator with a master background in kickboxing, describes a brutal two-week selection that left 23–27 people out of 512 candidates – combining extreme physical tests, hand-to-hand combat, psychological tests and an exhausting mountain phase with sleep deprivation and minimal food rations.

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He discusses in detail the 13-month GROM basic course covering green tactics, shooting (millions of rounds of ammunition), survival in captivity with the use of tasers, water operations and VIP protection, all based on the principle of 'look for your own work' in room clearing.

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During a mission in Iraq he was shot three times – once in the leg, twice in the vest – but tactical discipline saved his life; after this incident he realized his own mortality and changed his approach to life.

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He warns against doping – the threat of anti-doping tests at selection caused 50 candidates to withdraw; he himself used legal supplements, including the pre-workout Mezomorph (abandoned after a derivative of amphetamine was detected) and Monster drinks (24 cans over 5 days), and after one operation he slept 27.5 hours.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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GROM selection – physical tests (pull-up bar, swimming, rope, combat)

WhatCandidates perform strict pull-ups on a bar (no minimum standard, with emphasis on maximum, full dead hang, no kipping), a 25 m underwater swim, 50 m freestyle, a tower jump, a timed rope climb, sit-ups and dips on parallel bars – all tests are timed or for maximum repetitions. Then hours of hand-to-hand combat: combinations of strikes on bags, techniques in pairs, sparring in helmets and pads (several rounds, everyone against everyone, 3–5 hours), and for those suspected of faking it an additional 'fight for your life'.
WhenOn the first day of selection, after document verification.
DosePull-ups – do your maximum; swimming, rope, sit-ups, dips – timed; combat – 7–10 sparring rounds plus a possible fight for life.
For whomCandidates for JW GROM.
WhyA check of general fitness, and above all character – not just the result is assessed, but the will to fight and attitude ('we need a person who does not save himself').
CaveatsPull-ups must be technically correct (full dead hang, no throwing, no hip work); instructors give a single chance to correct (as in the case of a candidate who did 18, then after correction 20 and passed). Arguing with the assessor results in immediate exclusion and being struck off the list for the future (example of an arguing soldier with 10 years of service). Combat – you can get injured, Motyl mentions a selection where three noses were broken.

Motyl emphasizes that the standard of 18 pull-ups in force in other units is a trap in GROM – candidates often did exactly 18 and rested. In his opinion it is about showing your maximum, not an artificial limit. He himself as an assessor invalidated all the pull-ups of a guy who did them technically incorrectly and started arguing – he was permanently excluded. He describes that at his selection they first did PT, then combat, and the results were announced successively. Hand-to-hand combat serves to observe who saves himself – for such people a fight for life is provided, a last chance. He says that not everyone has to know how to fight, but they must show character and the will to fight. He himself at one selection was pulled aside by an instructor after he knocked out an opponent, who decided he was too aggressive.

Mechanism

Physical fatigue reveals true motivation – those who resort to minimalism or cheating are not fit for the unit, where everyone must operate at 100% without supervision. Combat forces a confrontation with pain and fear; instructors deliberately ramp up the pressure to observe the reaction.

Personal experience

Motyl himself at selection did 27 pull-ups (strict, full dead hang), and with a 40 kg weight he did 3–5 reps. He admits that during combat he initially went light, but after a hard punch from an opponent he understood that he had to 'smash', after which he broke someone's nose and was pulled aside. Later as a selection leader he invalidated the results of arguing candidates.

there was no such thing it was that you go to the max because we need a person not one who saves himself not one who fakes it Only you know it has to be character

Also said
“he asked me a question whether he could correct I say yes you can correct after 18 strict ... he jumped up and did over 20 strict ... I said you passed and immediately the whole rest the whole five wanted to repeat too No because the point was he did those 18 because he knew that was the limit”— Illustrates how easily the minimum standard system is exploited and how GROM counteracts such attitudes.
“Gentlemen If I don't see the will to fight here at all any fight then both of you are out”— A direct instruction from hand-to-hand combat – the priority is the will to fight, not technique.

Mountain phase of selection – march, navigation and marathon

WhatA multi-day mountain march with full gear (20–60 km daily), team navigation (first in pairs, later in smaller groups), a run with gear (10 km timed), a marathon (the last leg, at night), finished with an individual azimuth exam. Food rations: 1.5 l water, chocolate, a bar, biscuits and a can of meat daily. Constant punishments (push-ups, runs, carries) and sleep deprivation (woken by a flashbang grenade).
WhenAfter passing the previous phases (PT, combat, psychological tests); lasts 7–10 days.
Dose7–10 days; daily distance from 20 to max. 60 km; a marathon at night before the final exam.
For whomCandidates who passed the first sieve.
WhyA test of endurance, navigation skills, psychological resistance to permanent fatigue and hunger, and the ability to operate independently in the field.
CaveatsA ban on possessing any supplements, chewing gum, vitamins; you can only drink water from streams (you get purification tablets). Instructors use tricks (e.g. offering chicken – someone bit and was out). If a candidate gets lost or falls behind the others, he risks failing – no navigational help apart from a chance meeting with a descending colleague.

Motyl describes his own experience in detail: he started as the last one (after a slow march due to chafed feet), so he decided to run – it turned out that the pain subsided during running. He ran many kilometres, overtaking competitors, and ran into the marathon finish. There the late Colonel Czarny announced: 'After this gentleman everyone is out' – Motyl became the last one admitted to the exam, which probably saved him thanks to his visible will to fight. He also recalls the chicken episode: an instructor offered a piece, but warned that biting meant being out. Motyl refused, but someone else took it – and indeed was out. The final phase is an individual azimuth march – the last ones start last, which was unfavourable for him, but he passed anyway.

Personal experience

In the first selection for GROM he failed at the mountain phase due to lack of preparation and injuries. The second time, already after experiences in Lubliniec, he passed. He was almost eliminated by chafing on his feet – running turned out to be less painful than marching. He describes that at the moment of entering the finish line he was exhausted, but the instructors gave him a chance.

you bite and you're out

Also said
“marathon I was coming out it was already night ... I had my feet so chafed I wouldn't have made that marathon I decided to run because you know I couldn't stand the pain anymore and when I was running it didn't hurt”— A key tactical decision that decided passing the selection – shows creativity and determination.
“I come to one point And I remember here my mate Zima just happens to be sitting on a car with chicken and Well do you want some chicken sure gives chicken do you want to bite the chicken he says you bite and you're out”— A famous anecdote illustrating the psychological traps used by the cadre.

Survival training in captivity (SERE) with the use of a taser

WhatSimulated kidnapping: a bag over the head, beating, dousing with water, hours of interrogation with the use of strong light, and in later editions also stunning with a stun gun (taser) – candidates formed a circuit, holding the ends of cables and everyone received a shock. Everyone had to previously invent and maintain a legend (a false identity, life story), without revealing real information.
WhenAs part of the GROM basic course, usually after the green tactics phase.
Dose2–3 days of continuous abuse; multiple rounds of interrogations and shocks.
For whomCandidates for GROM operators.
WhyPsychological preparation for a possible real captivity, learning information control and resistance to pain – the goal is to delay interrogation until a possible rescue operation.
CaveatsIt is real, intense pain – one of Motyl's colleagues failed the course due to trauma after being repeatedly zapped with the taser. Instructors check the legend and confront it with the data they have; if a candidate breaks too early, he fails.

Motyl tells that before the course colleagues warned him what to expect. Despite that, when he first heard how they were zapping his mate, he thought they were simulating so the rest would 'break' – only when he himself was hooked up and felt the shock did he understand it was a real taser. He describes the moment when everyone was lined up: the first person got one cable in the hand, the last one the second, and the instructor pressed the button – the current passed through the whole group. Instructors shouted: 'you can shout!'. Earlier he was beaten several times, doused with water, deprived of sleep. He says that he himself created a legend, and the training leaders had limited knowledge about the candidates, although they could find the real intelligence. It teaches that even in a real situation the most important thing is to drag out the process – the longer you hold on, the greater the chance of relief.

Mechanism

Extreme physical and psychological stress is meant to break the natural resistance – an organism overloaded with pain and lack of sleep reveals real data faster. The training teaches separating the controlled story from the truth and the automatism of repeating it even in extreme discomfort.

Personal experience

Motyl himself was subjected to multiple shocks with the taser. He describes how he held the cables and got a shock, and the instructor shouted that he could shout. Earlier he thought it was a trick to break the psyche of others. Only this moment made him realize the reality of the stimulus. He says that the whole time he held to his legend, and the instructors ultimately did not break him.

you can shout no and I my first thought I say but [ __ ] they hit in the [ __ ] shout so the rest will break ... I hold I say that I can shout when he zaps me with this taser when I shouted no then I knew that it is true

Also said
“the first one takes one cable in the hand the last one takes the second cable and well this one presses and through everyone this current passes so and everyone you know there they were kicking”— A description of the technical execution of group torture – shows the scale of psychological pressure.
“one colleague failed because he had trauma in connection with this he didn't survive it quite strongly”— Proof that the exercise is so realistic that it leads to real psychological injuries.

Tactics of 'look for your own work' in room combat

WhatInstead of a static assignment of sectors (window, door etc.), each operator after entry independently identifies gaps in the fire coverage of his colleagues and immediately closes them, without waiting for an order.
WhenDuring every entry into a room (black tactics).
DoseA principle in force for the entire duration of the action – it is an element of basic training.
For whomGROM operators, from the basic course.
WhyIt prevents the creation of dead zones from which the opponent could fire, and increases the team's flexibility.
CaveatsIt requires excellent situational awareness and trust in colleagues – if someone disregards the principle, gaps appear (which shows the contrast with traditional holding of sectors in other units).

Motyl compares it with the method from the 1st Special Commando Regiment, where they taught rigid 'hold this window and that's it'. In GROM instructors taught: 'since a colleague is holding here, you looked for your own work another sector, where you can cover, from where fire may come out'. Thanks to this, in a real firefight, when Motyl moved to flank and the opponent did the same, his colleagues automatically adjusted sectors and no one was exposed. Motyl emphasizes that it was precisely this principle that saved his life – although he took three bullets, thanks to mutual covering and tactical maneuvering he survived and the team came out intact.

Mechanism

Every operator acts as an independent sensor and simultaneously an insurance system; instead of one static assignment, the team creates a dynamic fire network that immediately adjusts to the movement of the opponent and colleagues.

Personal experience

During the shooting he himself tried to outflank the attacker, and when an exchange of fire ensued, he knew that his colleagues were covering him, because 'they stood in a line, no one broke'. He says that it was precisely the selection and this training that ensured no one panicked.

look for your own work that is not like they taught me in the special regiment that Hold this window and that's it … look for your own work another sector where you can cover from where fire may come out

Also said
“my colleagues stood in a line no one broke that is exactly this selection all these trainings”— Confirms that the principle translated into real behaviour under fire.

VIP protection – GROM–SOP/BOR cooperation

WhatDuring the protection of the most important persons (president, prime minister) GROM operates in the inner or outer ring, dealing with direct fire support and breaking contact, while SOP/BOR deals with the quick evacuation of the VIP from the so-called death zone.
WhenOn foreign missions (Iraq, Afghanistan) and during visits of heads of state to Poland (in the past with BOR, currently with SOP).
DoseThe task lasts for the whole duration of the visit; at the basic course it was a 2-week training conducted by the then BOR.
For whomGROM operators assigned to VIP protection tasks.
WhyGROM provides the ability to enter into fire contact and provide prolonged covering, which SOP is not able to do on its own – SOP's task is to extract the VIP, GROM fights.
CaveatsOften GROM filled equipment gaps; Motyl tells that even in the BOR times it happened that the protection did not have full backup, so GROM did most of the logistical and fire work. Currently SOP has better equipment and support sections, but still in foreign operations the presence of GROM operators next to SOP is visible (e.g. in Ukraine).

Motyl describes that on missions he repeatedly protected presidents and prime ministers. Usually several GROM operators flew in and it was they who provided protection on the helicopter and secured the cars and the route. He himself was assigned as the main protector on the helicopter, having at his disposal a machine gun (minimi), so that in case of an attack he could cover with fire for a long time. He emphasizes the difference in tactics: the task of SOP is solely to extract the VIP as quickly as possible, not to engage in combat; the task of GROM is to fight and accept possible losses to enable the evacuation. He also touches on the example of the assassination attempt on Trump, commenting that basic security mistakes were made there (unmanned buildings).

Mechanism

The support is based on a division of roles: SOP/BOR in the first ring directly with the VIP maintains mobility and speed of withdrawal, and GROM in the second ring engages the attackers, using firepower and combat training to gain time.

Personal experience

Motyl says that he repeatedly served as 'the one with the minimi', standing by the helicopter and being ready to open fire. He mentions a photo with the late President Kaczyński published in the book 'GROM 2', in which he is standing precisely with the minimi.

Their task is to take this VIP Mr President as quickly as possible and escape … and Our task is Well unfortunately I may lose my life but I am to fight

Also said
“I was one of the main protectors so to speak on the helicopter I had various assortment when it comes to the choice of weapons and and equipment … with the minimi then I stand”— A specific tool (minimi) and the role he played in securing the helicopter.

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The 'look for your own work' principle in room clearing tactics

GROM taught operators not to hold a rigidly assigned sector, but to actively look for angles not covered by colleagues – dynamic covering eliminates dead fields.

Why this matters: Openly contrasts with the methods of other Polish units and explains why no one died during the firefight.

Background

In the 1st Special Commando Regiment they taught holding one window. In GROM instructors required that everyone 'looked for their own work', i.e. scanned the environment and supplemented colleagues.

Motyl describes that it was precisely this training that allowed his team to survive the exchange of fire when he himself was shot. When he tried to outflank the opponent, the opponent had the same idea – a fight ensued, but because all colleagues automatically adjusted sectors, no gap appeared. He emphasizes that this approach opened his head and taught him flexibility. He notes that this is one of the differences between GROM and the rest of the units – there is no room for passive standing there, because everyone is responsible for the whole security.

Personal experience

During the shooting he himself applied this principle: when he saw a gap, he moved to close it, which ended in an exchange of fire, but at the same time protected his colleagues, because the opponent's fire focused on him. He says that only the tactics saved his life.

look for your own work that is not like they taught me in the special regiment that Hold this window and that's it ... look for your own work another sector where you can cover from where fire may come out

Also said
“from the fact that we are so open-headed that you know you have to look for this work Well there is rather no such place that would be uncovered”— Shows the end effect – complete securing of the zone without dead fields.

The introduction of anti-doping tests at selections and mass withdrawals

When mandatory doping tests were announced at selections and the calling of the military police was foretold, about 50 candidates immediately started reporting injuries and resigned.

Why this matters: Reveals the scale of use of prohibited substances among those eager for special units and the restrictive approach of GROM.

Background

Motyl himself later led selections and observed how candidates were scheming. Earlier in the unit there were no routine tests, but they were introduced precisely after such signals.

He argues that the ban on doping is absolutely justified – it is not just about ethics, but about safety on the battlefield. If a soldier takes steroids or other substances, then in case of a wound the medical personnel does not know how to react, the blood may be thickened, unpredictable interactions may occur. He himself after being shot refused steroids offered by doctors, preferring supplements (e.g. pre-workouts bought in the USA). He also tells that earlier on missions they used strong pre-workouts, like Mezomorph, which turned out to contain a derivative of amphetamine – they resigned when they understood the risk. In this way he gives a specific example of the evolution of his own approach to support.

Personal experience

As a selection leader he saw how after the announcement of tests 'suddenly 50 people said they caught an injury'. He himself never took steroids, and after being shot he refused, trusting that he trained 'dry'. On missions he used legal supplements, but withdrew from the strongest ones when he learned their composition.

They signed cards that that the military police would be called then suddenly 50 people said they caught an injury not at the selection and withdrew

Also said
“how are you supposed to know what I took whether I took and so on you cannot stop my bleeding or you can ... this is that if anything happens to you you will be able to have a grudge against yourself because Blood may be thickened”— Explains the medical danger of using doping in the context of combat rescue.
“mezomorph we chose mezomorph it was popular on mission... it contained something like a derivative of amphetamine or something”— A specific example of an abandoned supplement that was initially considered safe.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Mezomorph (pre-workout)

Supplement

A supplement used by Motyl and colleagues on early missions in Iraq/Afghanistan as a means of maintaining alertness during long-lasting operations. Later they discovered it contained a substance similar to amphetamine (probably DMAA) – after that they stopped using it.

Motyl tells that on missions, where all-nighters were the norm, they reached for strong pre-workouts bought in the United States. Mezomorph was particularly popular – it gave a huge kick, but the side effect was so intense that after the first intake Motyl had to cancel his participation in an operation, because 'he had such a crash that he couldn't'. Only a thorough reading of the ingredients revealed that it contained a component being a derivative of amphetamine. He emphasizes that from that moment they threw out all the stocks and stopped using supplements with unclear composition, which fits into his general caution towards doping and unknown substances.

vs alternatives

In comparison with other pre-workouts, such as 'Nan celte' or 'Dorian jesa', also bought in the USA, Mezomorph turned out to be the most risky. The alternative was using large amounts of Monster Energy (24 cans over 5 days), which was also not healthy, but at least the composition was known.

Personal experience

He himself took Mezomorph once and was not able to function normally – he reported to the commander that he would not go on the action. Later, already after returning from the mission, he completely stopped all strong stimulants.

I the first time I took mezomorph I couldn't go on an operation I told the commander that sorry you I don't know what was but I have such a crash that this no

Also said
“we started reading probably gamin that's what it was called it contained or something like that And this is a derivative of amphetamine”— Indicates the specific reason for discontinuation – a hidden ingredient with a narcotic effect.
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Monster Energy (energy drink)

Product

On missions Motyl's team used Monster drinks in amounts of 24 cans per person spread over 5 days to maintain alertness during multi-day patrols and night watches. He himself experienced a massive energy crash – after one operation he slept 27.5 hours non-stop.

Motyl emphasizes that on a mission, where lack of sleep was permanent, operators looked for every legal way to maintain functioning. Drinking Monsters was a common practice – they provided caffeine and sugar, allowing you to endure in vigilance for several days. However, after ending such a stretch the body demanded a long regeneration. The story of sleeping 27 hours after returning from an action, where they burned a car, shows how huge the adrenaline rush and fatigue was, and after it subsided the body 'switched off' for many hours. Motyl does not treat this as a recommendation to follow, rather as a description of the realities of the mission, admitting that it was unhealthy.

vs alternatives

The alternative to Monsters were pre-workouts (like Mezomorph), which turned out to be risky due to their composition. Monsters gave a less aggressive kick, but in return you could easily control the dose and they did not cause immediate disqualification from an operation.

Personal experience

After returning from one of the operations, when the first Polish Honker since World War II was burned, Motyl went to sleep after the debrief and woke up the next day after 27.5 hours – colleagues had to wake him for lunch the next day, thinking he had overslept one night.

we took two four crates of monsters and you drank over 5 days you understand each had 24 monsters for C days to drink not to keep you going

Also said
“Ty motyl but it's already [ __ ] the next day and I like the next day he says Ty well the whole this 27 and a half hours I slept without going to the toilet”— Shows the extreme exhaustion of the body after stopping stimulants and operational stress.
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Lone Survivor / Red Wings (Marcus Luttrell)

Book

Motyl recommends a foreign book describing Operation Red Wings, on the basis of which the film 'The Survivor' was made. He considers that it well reflects the realities of special forces operations, unlike many Polish books which are general.

Asked about literature faithfully depicting service in GROM, he admits that he does not read Polish books (with the exception of the biography of General Petelicki), and is more interested in foreign literature. He mentions precisely Red Wings as an example – he praises the detailed description of the operation and the attitude of the soldiers. He also mentions 'Zero' (Bravo Two Zero) as a book he grew up on, although it is not his favourite. Motyl emphasizes that Polish publications often lack specifics, while foreign ones show the process of planning and execution in detail.

vs alternatives

In comparison with Polish operator books, which according to him are 'general', Red Wings is detailed and shows the technical aspects of the action. In turn 'Zero' he treats more as a reading from his youth than a model today.

Personal experience

He read this book and compares it with the reality of missions; he does not relate it directly to his own actions, but clearly values it for realism.

there they describe the oper … it is very cool there Besides the film was made The Survivor I think

Also said
“I am more interested in books from abroad because there for example they describe the oper Well not here our books are so you know general”— Justifies the preference for foreign literature due to greater detail.
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Bravo Two Zero (Andy McNab)

Book

A book mentioned as a reading from his youth – Motyl says he grew up on it, although it is not his favourite. He mentions it in the context of foreign literature that was important to him before joining special units.

During a conversation about operator books Motyl mentions 'Zero' (probably 'Bravo Two Zero' by Andy McNab) as one of the first that shaped his imagination about service. He admits that it is not his favourite position today, but he appreciates its place in history and influence on his own motivation. He does not recommend it as a model for today's service, more as a historical curiosity.

vs alternatives

In contrast to the detailed 'Red Wings', 'Zero' is a more general story, but has sentimental value.

Personal experience

He read it in his youth, before he became a soldier; he emphasizes that 'he grew up on this'.

zero not my favourite book because because because I also grew up on this no

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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but [ __ ] they hit in the [ __ ] shout so the rest will break
The first thought after seeing a colleague zapped with a taser – conveys the brutality and psychological dimension of survival training.
you bite and you're out
The already cult anecdote about the chicken at the mountain selection – the essence of the cadre's tricks checking determination.
[ __ ] I am not Immortal I don't have three lives like in games
A sincere confession of an operator who after years of elite service realized his own mortality.
look for your own work that is not like they taught me in the special regiment that Hold this window and that's it ... look for your own work another sector where you can cover from where fire may come out
A definition of the unique GROM tactic that distinguished it from the rest of the Polish special forces.
gr it is supposed to be such a scalpel that can cut perfectly
The words of General Petelicki, the founder of the unit, emphasizing the role of GROM as a precise surgical tool.
Ty motyl but it's already [ __ ] the next day ... the whole this 27 and a half hours I slept without going to the toilet
A shocking illustration of exhaustion after a mission – the body needed over a day of sleep to regenerate.

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