Matt Fitzpatrick (CEO of Invisible Technologies) argues that not all industries will be equally disrupted by AI — sectors like oil & gas and real estate will see limited change, while legal, media, and BPOs face major transformation.
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Enterprises should focus on 2–3 high-impact use cases, pilot with an external vendor paid on outcomes, and assign a operational lead (not IT) with clear KPIs to avoid the 'thousand flowers bloom' science-project trap.
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Custom benchmarks (evals) that test AI against human-equivalent performance on specific tasks will be far more important than broad public benchmarks like coding tests; companies that build them first will dominate their niches.
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Human-in-the-loop is here to stay as a feature, not a bug — full automation won't work for complex enterprise tasks, and even with recursive AI improvements, expert human feedback remains critical for model validation.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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Enterprise AI Implementation Roadmap
WhatA phased approach for medium-large companies to adopt AI successfully: (1) identify 2-3 highest-value operational use cases, (2) get the specific data for those use cases clean and ready, (3) issue an RFP to an external AI vendor with payment tied to outcomes, (4) assign an operational leader (not IT) with a clear KPI to own the initiative, (5) pilot one use case with custom evals, (6) scale only after validated trust.
WhenWhen the board demands an AI plan. Immediately, starting in early 2026.
DosePilot phase: roughly 1-2 months to get a prototype running, followed by extensive testing and validation. Scale over months.
For whomCEOs, CTOs, and board members of mid-cap and large enterprises across all industries.
WhyMost enterprises fail because they either let a thousand flowers bloom without operational metrics or delegate to IT without domain expertise. External vendors can be held accountable for results, and operational KPIs ensure the project ties to real business outcomes.
CaveatsRequires honesty about in-house capabilities. Many IT teams lack experience in AI deployment; using them can lead to unaccountable science projects. The first use case should not be a strategy document but an actual pilot. Data readiness is critical — don't try to boil the ocean.
Matt details that the fundamental challenge is not the technology but the organizational and data architecture. Most companies' tech stacks are decades old and their data fragmented. He urges starting with a value-first mentality: choose the 2-3 things that materially move the needle — customer service, FP&A forecasting, inventory management, digital marketing. Then, rather than writing a strategy, get a working prototype in weeks. He stresses that the machine learning paradigm of building for months then underwriting statistically is inverted here: you can prototype fast but must test relentlessly. The failure mode is when the initiative sits in the tech org without an operational KPI; the fix is to put your best ops person in charge. Finally, he recommends an RFP to a third-party vendor compensated on outcomes (like Invisible) because it limits risk and holds someone accountable for results. This roadmap is his direct advice to any CEO.
The first thing I would start with is making sure you know the first question. I do think this is a question of following the value. … I would start with what are, you know, two three things that if you do them well materially move the needle for your business. … I would probably do that first use case as an RFP to a third-party vendor that gets compensated based on results.
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“I think the failure mode on that has been you let a thousand flowers bloom, none of them have an operational metric, and you kind of end up with a science project dynamic.”— Warns against common flailing approach.
“Do not locate this in your technology organization. Take your best operator, your best ops person, give them an operational KPI, and track it to that.”— Specifies exactly where to place ownership.
“The one thing that anyone who's spent real time in this space will tell you is … you can get a prototype up and running in a month. But you have to do a lot of testing and validation to to make sure you can trust it.”— Highlights the inversion of traditional deployment timelines.
Build Custom Evals for Your AI Task
WhatDevelop a custom benchmark (eval) that measures AI performance against human equivalence on your specific task, using human expert outputs as the validation set.
WhenBefore deploying any AI agent or model on a business-critical task.
DoseOngoing process; initial benchmark creation can take weeks, but must be embedded in the deployment cycle.
For whomEnterprises and domain experts deploying AI in any function (contact center, claims processing, legal, etc.).
WhyBroad benchmarks don't capture the accuracy needed for a specific use case. A custom eval gives you the statistically validatable baseline to decide if you'd 'bet your annual bonus' on the deployment.
CaveatsRequires access to human expert performance data and clear criteria for equivalence. Harder to build for creative or highly variable outputs.
Matt explains that most enterprises lack a way to say 'it works' for generative AI because they don't have a baseline. For contact centers, you can measure time per call, CSAT, cost per call; for mortgage underwriting, back-tested credit decisions. But for tasks like generating an investment memo, formats vary wildly. The custom eval process involves collecting human-generated outputs for the exact task, then measuring the AI's output against that. This becomes the foundation for scaling. He suggests that whoever builds the benchmark for an industry vertical becomes the instant authority, creating a massive entrepreneurial opportunity.
Mechanism
Custom evals typically involve pairing AI outputs with human expert judgments, often using a human-created ground truth dataset. For generative tasks, it could be a comparative evaluation where a human rates AI outputs against human examples on multiple dimensions. The key is to have a set of expert agents (humans) whose performance you replicate.
Personal experience
Invisible spends a lot of time building customer-specific benchmarks; it's a core part of their enterprise work.
You need a way to actually say at that point, does this produce a comparable output to what that claim did to what to what a human doing this task before was doing? … you actually do need human equivalence testing, you need a human to provide a comparable data set, and to say this looks good or it doesn't.
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“If you're going to roll this out for contact center is a series of expert agents that are in your contact center and how they perform, and then how the AI agents perform similarly.”— Practical example of how to structure the eval.
Segment Data by Sensitivity Before Using AI APIs
WhatClassify your company's data into truly proprietary (trading strategies, unique processes) vs. non-proprietary (general back-office data). Keep the former on-premise or use small language models; use public LLM APIs for the latter.
WhenBefore feeding any data into external AI systems.
For whomCompanies in banking, healthcare, legal, or any sector where trade secrets are core.
WhyProprietary data is your competitive moat; leaking it to a frontier model could allow competitors or the AI provider itself to replicate your insights. Not all data needs the same level of protection.
CaveatsRequires careful data governance. Many companies assume all data is proprietary and get paralyzed. Others are too cavalier.
Matt brings up the Jane Street example: a trading firm will never give its proprietary data to OpenAI because that data is the entire source of alpha. But their back-office FP&A data might be less sensitive. He cites banks with 300 customer databases where internal silos exist; segmenting which parts need air-gapped AI treatment and which can use cloud models is the practical way forward. He also notes that small language models are an option for on-premise sensitive use cases. This segmentation avoids the all-or-nothing trap.
Not all data is proprietary, so you can have you take the Jane Street case, maybe their trading data is proprietary, but their back office kind of forecasting data might not be … I think one thing is being clear about the data that you don't that you need to keep proprietary and that you do want to take more parameters of security around.
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“People are deciding to keep their data on premise, or they're using things like small language models for those sorts of reasons. And I think you may continue to see that as a trend.”— Validates the on-premise/small-model approach.
Contact Center AI: Never Go Fully Agentic
WhatDeploy a mix of AI agents and human agents in contact centers, using AI for level-1 queries and ensuring seamless escalation to humans for complex or non-standard issues.
WhenWhenever you automate customer service.
DoseOngoing, with continuous refinement of the AI-human handoff.
For whomAny company with a contact center.
WhyFull automation fails because some cases have no precedent data or require empathy; humans still prefer to speak to humans in sensitive situations. The Klarna rollback illustrates the danger of moving too fast to 100% agentic.
CaveatsAI needs real-time access to source systems for complex tasks like refunds; otherwise it can't resolve level-2/3 issues. Without proper escalation design, customer satisfaction plummets.
Matt discusses the Klarna case where they announced fully agentic contact center, touted huge cost savings, then silently rolled it back. He speculates that the hardest part wasn't the tech but the non-first-line resolution tasks — things like processing a refund that require writing back to multiple systems and judgment calls. He argues you should always start with a human-AI mix and evolve the ratio. The architecture he suggests: an orchestrator that classifies call types, routes level-1 to AI, and escalates complex or emotion-laden calls to humans. This avoids the PR backlash of seemingly removing human empathy.
Mechanism
Multi-agent orchestration with a human-in-the-loop escalation path. The AI handles standardized, high-frequency requests; the human handles exceptions, emotional nuance, and tasks requiring integration across multiple backend systems.
You would never want to move to doing everything agentic. You're going to want humans in the loop in every single almost every industry and almost any topic because I think actually that's where a lot of the if these models are trained off of precedent data … you're going to want humans for some of the things where you don't really have precedent data.
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“The entire structure of how the change happened quite confusing because you would always want to keep a contact center be a mix of humans and agents and then evolve the mix between those.”— Direct critique of Klarna's all-or-nothing approach.
Unify Fragmented Data for AI in Healthcare Practices
WhatCreate a HIPAA-compliant multi-tenant cloud data platform to aggregate patient and provider data from disparate practices, then layer AI for admin, scheduling, and patient insights without altering clinical decisions.
WhenFor any multi-location healthcare or longevity practice looking to use AI.
DoseInitial data integration can take months; ongoing upkeep.
For whomConcierge medicine groups, multi-location clinics, health systems.
WhyHealthcare practices have siloed, unstructured data. AI can dramatically reduce the 30-40% of US healthcare costs that are admin, while keeping patient data secure locally.
CaveatsHIPAA compliance is critical; patient data must stay on premise of individual practices with only aggregated metrics centrally available. Not for clinical decisioning — the focus should be admin and operational efficiency.
Matt uses the Lifespan MD example, a concierge medicine network. The first step was using Invisible's Neuron platform to bring together all patient and provider data into a HIPAA-compliant instance that gave a 360° view. They could then ask questions like 'What longevity tests do male patients 35-50 use most?' and get practice performance metrics. The generative AI layer acts as a chat agent and knowledge management system over that data. He emphasizes that AI should not replace physician decision-making but should handle admin, scheduling, and information retrieval — the painful overhead that consumes 30-40% of healthcare spending. This approach keeps the human expert empowered while removing drudgery.
Mechanism
Neuron data platform creates a HIPAA-compliant multi-tenant cloud where each practice's data is stored locally but can be queried centrally for non-PHI metrics. AI agents then pull from this to answer provider questions and automate scheduling.
The first thing that we're doing for them is on our data platform Neuron, we're creating a HIPAA compliant multi-tenant cloud instance where we bring in together all the patient and provider data that's of interest. … You can start to think of things like what longevity focused tests male patients 35 to 50 are using most frequently.
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“AI should do a huge amount of damage in those areas [admin and scheduling]. Exactly.”— Distinguishes safe AI application from risky clinical automation.
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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custom-benchmarks-as-the-new-moat
01:05:00–01:10:00
Broad public benchmarks (e.g., coding) are useful for tracking model improvement, but the real competitive edge will come from hyper-specific custom evals that measure AI vs. human performance on exact enterprise tasks.
Why this matters: It shifts the benchmarking game from general intelligence to domain-specific accuracy; companies that create and own these custom benchmarks become the gatekeepers of AI quality in their industries.
Background
Most AI progress is measured with large public benchmarks like coding, math, and reasoning. Enterprises, however, need to trust AI at the task level — an 80% accurate deployment is too risky. The current approach lacks tailored evaluation.
Matt explains that for a contact center, you'd need to compare AI agents against expert human agents on metrics like first-call resolution, whereas for insurance claims you'd need human-equivalent outputs. The difficulty of building those baselines has slowed adoption in many sectors. Unlike the SaaS paradigm where off-the-shelf tools just work, AI requires fine-tuning on proprietary data and then building a custom eval to validate performance. This is hard, but it's where the real value lies. He believes the benchmark itself becomes the IP, and whoever builds it first in a sector becomes the instant star because nobody else has claimed topic ownership. This creates a new calling for domain experts to define the standard of 'good enough' for AI in their field.
Most of the public focus to date has been on the large public benchmarks for things like coding. … I think the problem is, though, if you think about like enterprises or small businesses, your benchmark for most cases is not a broad-based … cognitive benchmark. It's accuracy or human equivalent on a specific task.
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“I think a lot of this is actually the way that we think about benchmarking will evolve from broad-based benchmarks to hyper-specific benchmarks.”— Frames the trend away from general AI measures toward custom evaluation.
“In this era of post-training as a commodity, if you own the benchmark, often it's the case I think that the benchmark is the hard part, and you can leverage existing resources to post-train an off-the-shelf bottle.”— Explains why owning the benchmark creates a strategic moat.
human-in-the-loop-persistence
01:18:00–01:25:00
Contrary to the narrative that recursive self-improving AI will eliminate human involvement, Matt argues that human feedback (RLHF) and human oversight will remain essential, especially for complex, high-stakes enterprise tasks.
Why this matters: Pushes back strongly against the AGI-does-everything hype, asserting that even as models improve, the need for expert human validation increases because of hyper-specificity and lack of precedent data.
Background
Many AI researchers predict that AI will soon be able to train itself, reducing or eliminating the need for human-labeled data. RLHF and fine-tuning might become automated. Invisible Technologies itself runs a large ML freelancer marketplace (Meridial) that supplies human feedback.
Matt acknowledges that the nature of RLHF is changing — moving from commodity cat-dog labeling toward expert work by PhDs and masters, plus RL gyms and simulated environments. However, he insists that for any highly specific task (legal services, insurance claims, non-standard contact center interactions), you need human equivalence testing. The data for these tasks isn't in any training corpus; it sits in people's heads. As models venture into niche domains, the need for human feedback actually grows. He cites the Klarna contact center example: moving to 100% agentic without a human escalation path led to a rollback, illustrating why a human-AI mix is the winning architecture. He sees human-in-the-loop as a feature that will persist for many years.
Personal experience
Invisible builds human-in-the-loop systems for enterprises and model training; their experience is that pairing synthetic and human data yields stronger results.
I think human in the loop is going to be a feature, not a bug, for a long, long time.
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“You would never want to move to doing everything agentic. You're going to want humans in the loop in every single almost every industry and almost any topic.”— Clarifies that full autonomy is a fantasy in complex real-world deployments.
“The entire red herring of the enterprise, for example, is that autonomous agents will do all of this with no human in the loop. I actually think you're going to need more and more humans at every step.”— Directly challenges the full-automation narrative.
multi-agent-teams-for-enterprise
01:38:00–01:40:00
2026 will see the rise of multi-agent architectures where task-specific AI agents are orchestrated by a general LLM, allowing pinpoint accuracy on individual steps while maintaining overall coherence.
Why this matters: It's a concrete architectural shift away from monolithic AI solutions, and Matt predicts it will finally start showing real success in enterprise settings.
Background
Most enterprise AI implementations today try to use a single model or agent for end-to-end tasks, which leads to brittleness. Contact centers have been a testbed but have struggled with complex escalations.
Matt explains that rather than one decisioning agent, companies will train narrow agents for subtasks — e.g., one for balance checks, another for refunds — each with its own accuracy benchmarks, and have an orchestrator LLM coordinate them. This modular approach lets you validate each piece independently and pinpoint failures, making the whole system trustworthy. He thinks contact centers are an early example and that more success stories will emerge in 2026. This architecture also simplifies data requirements because you only need clean data for each specific task, not an entire corporate data lake.
I think one of the first ones I would anchor on is multi-agent teams. … you won't necessarily have one decisioning agent that does everything. You'll train task-specific agents for individual tasks, usually orchestrated by an LLM.
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“And what that allows you to do is to pinpoint the accuracy on those specific tasks, and then use the broader logic set of the LLM to make sure they all work together properly.”— Explains the practical benefit of the multi-agent approach.
rl-gyms-digital-twins
01:40:00–01:42:00
In 2026, simulated environments (‘RL gyms’ or digital twins) will become critical for testing AI models on high-stakes tasks before real-world deployment, mimicking manufacturing floors, contact centers, or coding environments.
Why this matters: It's an emerging concept that moves AI validation from simple benchmarks to full environment simulation, reducing risk in enterprise rollouts.
Background
Currently, many AI failures happen because models are tested on narrow datasets but fail when exposed to real-world complexity. Simulated environments allow stress-testing with full context.
Matt describes these as controlled environments where you can simulate a series of function calls, tasks, or interactions — for example, manufacturing operations or multi-step customer service calls. By running the AI through these simulations, you can see how it performs on edge cases, measure coherence in complex agent chains, and refine prompts or fine-tuning before touching live systems. This concept ties into the enterprise need for guaranteed outcomes; digital twins allow you to answer the question 'would you bet your annual bonus on this deployment?' before going live.
I don't actually think that's a well-understood concept for many folks in the audience, but think of that as actually creating simulated environments to or digital twins for tasks you might want to test, … before you roll it out to your actual physical world.
proprietary-data-the-new-valuable-asset
01:28:00–01:33:00
As generalist AI models commoditize, a company's unique trade-secret data — how it sells, its internal processes, its unstructured knowledge — will become its most valuable asset, requiring careful protection.
Why this matters: It reframes the AI race: the model is the commodity, the data is the treasure. Companies must decide what stays in-house vs. what goes to the public cloud.
Background
Bloomberg's failed attempt to build a proprietary finance LLM showed that generalist models quickly surpass specialized ones. However, the real-value edge lies in the specific, non-public data that only the company possesses.
Matt notes that for many enterprises, the most impactful use cases — sales, underwriting, service — rely on data about how they do things, not just what databases store. That data is often unstructured and resides in documents, emails, and human expertise. Companies must balance the convenience of using frontier APIs with the risk of leaking their data. He suggests segmenting data: truly sensitive information stays on-premise or uses small language models; less sensitive data can leverage public APIs. This segmentation will define the competitive landscape.
I think, in fact, what's going to happen is over time that edge in data is going to be the most valuable part of any company. Is that trade secret type of how do we do things?
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“Not all data is proprietary … being clear about the data that you need to keep proprietary and that you do want to take more parameters of security around, and then what data you say, 'Look, this is actually I'm going to be very careful as a company, but this is data that is not as proprietary.'”— Provides a practical framework for handling data security with AI.
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Invisible is a modular AI software platform that provides AI training (including RLHF for major LLM providers) and builds custom agents and workflows for enterprises, focusing on clean data, human-in-the-loop delivery, and outcome-based compensation.
DisclosureHost Peter Diamandis is a proud advisor to Invisible; guest Matt Fitzpatrick is the company's CEO.
Matt describes Invisible as solving the 'last mile' problem of enterprise AI: making AI actually work in a business context. The company runs a large ML freelancer marketplace (Meridial) to supply human feedback for model training, and an enterprise division that builds bespoke applications — from computer vision for sports draft prep (Charlotte Hornets) to HIPAA-compliant multi-tenant healthcare data platforms (Lifespan MD), to underwater drone swarm intelligence (US Navy). Their model is to be paid based on results (money saved, outcomes), which aligns incentives. Matt stresses that while the technology has leapt forward, the hard part is change management, operationalization, metric tracking, and evaluation; Invisible 'bakes the cake' from all the components. The company has offices in New York, San Francisco, Austin, DC, London, Poland, and Paris. Their website is invisible.tech.ai.
vs alternatives
Compared to trying to hire an internal AI team or purchase off-the-shelf SaaS tools, Invisible offers a managed service with accountability for outcomes and the ability to handle the messy data unification and human-in-the-loop validation that generic platforms cannot.
Personal experience
Matt is the CEO; Peter Diamandis is an advisor. The discussion showcases several case studies of successful engagements.
We make AI work. … any mid-cap or or enterprise company that knows there is potential in their business, that knows that AI can transform in a positive way, and is struggling to bring all the pieces together. I think that is the main thing I would say.
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“Our founder Francis has an idea of you have all the components to build a cake, but you don't have a cake. Like what we do is we actually bake the cake in the end.”— Metaphor that conveys their unique value proposition.
Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased
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I think human in the loop is going to be a feature, not a bug, for a long, long time.
Memorable and contrarian to the full-automation narrative; succinctly frames the expert's core belief.
You would never want to move to doing everything agentic. You're going to want humans in the loop in every single almost every industry and almost any topic.
Universal prescription that challenges current AI deployment hype.
The failure mode on that has been you let a thousand flowers bloom, none of them have an operational metric, and you kind of end up with a science project dynamic.
Pithy diagnosis of why most enterprise AI initiatives fail.
If you take the paradigm of how machine learning is deployed where you spend months and months building something and then it works and you can underwrite statistically that it works. This is kind of the exact opposite paradigm in that you can get a prototype up and running in a month. But you have to do a lot of testing and validation to make sure you can trust it.
Captures the speed vs. trust tension in generative AI adoption.
The edge in data is going to be the most valuable part of any company. Is that trade secret type of how do we do things?
Crystallizes the shift from models to proprietary data as the ultimate corporate asset.
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