Vittorio Angelone, a comedian diagnosed with autism at 29, reveals how high masking made him a professional 'script-follower' in both life and stand-up, and why he calls it 'girl autism'.
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He openly admits finding Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life helpful at 22, despite his audience likely hating it, and still uses 'tidy your room' as a crisis mantra.
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After being spiked in Nashville, he used an urgent care anti-vomiting injection ($200) and a wheelchair at the airport by claiming an ankle injury—calling it a 'life hack'.
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His podcast with Mike, intentionally named the stupidest thing possible, unintentionally attracts a large female audience by providing silly male banter women may lack in their own circles.
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Airport wheelchair assistance for non-visible illness
WhatRequest wheelchair assistance through the airline's app or website, citing a minor injury like an ankle sprain, to avoid standing in long queues when you're too ill.
WhenWhen you're extremely weak, vomiting, or otherwise unable to stand for long periods but don't have a visible disability.
DoseAs needed for the journey.
For whomAnyone temporarily incapacitated.
WhyIt allows you to conserve energy and avoid collapsing; staff typically don't question the request due to disability policies.
CaveatsHe acknowledges it's a bit dishonest, but he felt it was valid given his condition. He didn't disclose the potential poisoning to avoid being denied boarding.
He was vomiting every 30 minutes after being spiked, had a flight to catch, and knew he couldn't stand in security lines. He had previously used wheelchair assistance for a real ankle injury and realized they don't verify. He simply selected 'ankle injury' on the app. He felt a bit bad for the person pushing him, but believed he would have collapsed otherwise. He also didn't tell them about the drugging because he feared they wouldn't let him fly.
Personal experience
He used this in Nashville airport after being spiked.
I just like typed on the app that I needed a wheelchair... They don't ask what's wrong. I think I said like ankle injury cuz I like did like a month ago. I was getting wheel airports cuz I had [__] up my ankle. They don't ask. I know. This is so bad. Like, but it's like a life hack.
Also said
“I truly think I would have collapsed if I'd like queued for security and all that [__] which feels valid.”— Justifies the decision.
“I didn't tell them that I was like potentially had been poisoned by a redneck... I don't think they would have let me on the flight.”— Explains why he hid the true reason.
Escalate medical attention by vomiting audibly near reception
WhatIf you're in a waiting room and need to be seen urgently, vomit loudly in a nearby bathroom so staff can hear, prompting them to prioritize you.
WhenWhen you're being overlooked in an urgent care or ER waiting room despite severe symptoms.
DoseOnce or twice.
For whomPeople who are vomiting and not being seen quickly.
WhyStaff may underestimate your condition if you appear polite and composed; audible vomiting signals severity.
CaveatsHis mom's advice was to vomit in the lobby, but he did it in the bathroom near reception. It worked.
He was at an urgent care in Nashville, had signed in with 'persistent vomiting,' but people kept being called before him. He texted his mom, who said 'throw up in the lobby cuz then they'll escalate.' He didn't do that because the bathroom was right by reception, but he made sure they heard him. After that, they immediately came to see him.
Personal experience
He did this and got seen right away.
My mom's actual advice was throw up in the lobby cuz then they'll escalate. They'll see you, which is like crazy mom advice of like just throw them on the floor... I went into the bathroom and made a bit of a halaloo out of it to the point where I was like, 'Okay, they can definitely hear me.'
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“I stick my head out the door like finish vomiting like nothing... and go oh I like I keep vomiting and they were like yeah we heard. I was like I'm really sorry. They were like someone's coming to see you now.”— Confirms the tactic worked.
Tidy your room when overwhelmed (Jordan Peterson rule)
WhatWhen facing a crisis or feeling out of control, start by tidying your immediate environment to regain a sense of order.
WhenDuring moments of panic, illness, or chaos.
DoseAs needed.
For whomAnyone feeling overwhelmed.
WhyIt provides a small, achievable task that can help you feel more in control and ready to tackle bigger problems.
CaveatsHe uses it somewhat ironically, but acknowledges it helped.
He references Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life, which he read at 22. When he was vomiting repeatedly after being spiked, he told himself to 'tidy my room and I'll be okay,' channeling Peterson's advice to get his life together. It's a mental reset.
Personal experience
He used this mantra while sick in the hotel.
I went full Jordan Peterson and I was like I just got to tidy my room and I'll be okay.
Use anti-vomiting injection at urgent care for severe vomiting
WhatIf you can't stop vomiting, go to an urgent care clinic and request an anti-emetic injection (they gave him one in the buttock).
WhenWhen vomiting persists for hours and you can't keep anything down.
DoseOne injection, cost him $200.
For whomPeople with suspected poisoning or severe gastroenteritis.
WhyStops vomiting quickly, allowing you to travel or recover.
CaveatsHe was in the US; costs may vary. He didn't get a toxicology report due to cost.
After being spiked, he vomited every 30 minutes for hours. A friend suggested an IV clinic, but it was closed, so they went to urgent care. The staff suspected a spiked drink, common in Nashville. They gave him an injection that stopped the vomiting, enabling him to make his flight.
Personal experience
He received the injection and felt immediate relief.
They injected my ass with like an anti-vomiting drug and I was like this is nice. And $200 as well. They didn't [__] me up.
Also said
“I stopped vomiting and I made my flight to Austin.”— Shows the effectiveness.
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Adult autism diagnosis and high masking
Vittorio got diagnosed at 29 after friends called him autistic and he kept unknowingly upsetting people. He scored high on masking, which he links to his comedy career—stand-up is essentially professional masking.
Why this matters: He offers a unique perspective that stand-up comedy is rehearsed scripting, mirroring how autistic people learn social scripts, and that his 'girl autism' (high masking) is common in women but also in comedians.
Background
He had childhood anxiety, panic attacks, ran away from school, punched a principal at age 9. As an adult, he'd have what he thought were positive interactions only to receive messages later that he'd deeply insulted someone.
The realization was gradual: friends jokingly called him autistic, then he kept getting blindsided by negative reactions. He reached out to his GP, was told the NHS waiting list was 4 years. While touring, multiple autism practitioners in his audience offered free private assessments. The diagnosis showed elevated traits but incredibly high masking—essentially pretending not to be autistic. He explains that masking is why women are harder to diagnose, and he believes he has 'girl autism.' He also notes that comedy is a job where you say the same thing as if it's the first time, which is exactly what autistic masking feels like. He doesn't want to use the diagnosis as an excuse to be rude, but hopes being open will make people less upset if he messes up. He discusses the umbrella term: he has autism level 1 (formerly Asperger's), and finds it strange to share a diagnosis with nonverbal individuals. He mentions a possible co-morbidity with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (hypermobility) and wonders if connective tissue differences affect the brain. He contrasts autism with ADHD, noting there's no medication for autism, so no pharma incentive to overdiagnose.
Personal experience
He shares stories of being a strange child, punching the principal while trying to run away, and the recurring pattern of social missteps. He describes the constant worry: 'I am constantly so worried that I've upset people, but I have no way to tell if that's the case whatsoever.' He also talks about his current fear of upsetting people and the dilemma of unmasking.
I think this is a misconception about autism that we that it's like blissful lack of awareness about people socially. It's that I am constantly so worried that I've upset people, but I have no way to tell if that's the case whatsoever.
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“I'm apologizing when I had no need to apologize. I'm patting myself on the back when I've ruined somebody's day.”— Illustrates the double-bind of social misreading.
“The job is say something you said a million times as if it's the first time you said it. But that's also like being autistic in the world... I'm doing a little script that I'm following that I've learned is how people like to be interacted with.”— Directly equates stand-up comedy with autistic masking.
Past admiration for Jordan Peterson and self-improvement
Vittorio admits he found Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life helpful at 22, made his girlfriend watch, but now feels embarrassed. He still uses the 'tidy your room' mentality in crises.
Why this matters: He's a left-leaning comedian whose audience would likely disapprove, yet he openly acknowledges the benefit he got from Peterson's self-help advice, and still applies it.
Background
He was a 'dumb idiot guy' needing direction and found the book's tough-love message resonated.
He explains that he needed someone to tell him to grow up and get his shit together. He acknowledges that Peterson later 'went a bit crazy,' but he tries to be honest about finding value in the early self-help content. He contrasts his current embarrassment with the genuine help it provided. He also mentions that when he was vomiting after being spiked, he went 'full Jordan Peterson' and told himself to tidy his room and get it together, showing the lasting impact.
Personal experience
He read the book, made his girlfriend watch, and now cringes at that. He still applies the 'tidy your room' mindset when things go wrong.
I read the 12 rules for life book and I found it helpful when I was like 22... I'm so embarrassed. I'm so like spiritually like I don't know something about me and my audience would hate the fact that I really found Jordan Peterson very helpful.
Also said
“I went full Jordan Peterson and I was like I just got to tidy my room and I'll be okay.”— Shows he still uses the advice in moments of crisis.
The Irish Times article miscommunication and social fallout
After a review described his show as 'unapologetically local,' Vittorio posted on Instagram criticizing the phrasing, which blew up and led to the journalist receiving hate. He later called her to talk it out.
Why this matters: He reflects on how his autism may have contributed to misreading the article's intent and the unintended consequences of his post, highlighting the difficulty of navigating public communication.
Background
The article was meant as a compliment but he felt it was dismissive and made his show seem inaccessible. His post was seen as an attack.
He explains the context of the article, his frustration that it made his show seem inaccessible when he actually does a lot of explaining. He posted a black-square text on Instagram, which went viral with 40k likes. The journalist reached out, and they had a phone call where neither fully apologized but understood each other. He acknowledges that he probably shouldn't have included her name, but it was already public. He connects this to his autism: he thought he was just informing people, but it came across as rude. He also mentions a similar incident with a late-arriving audience where his factual post was misinterpreted as passive-aggressive.
Personal experience
He describes the phone call, his mixed feelings, and his tendency to misjudge how his words will be received. He says, 'I upset somebody. So I reached out to them and had a phone call and was like, Hey, let's talk this through.'
I just think I'm like having a little bit of fun or like just informing people of something... and it's gotten like more views than most of my standup clips. I think because people think I'm being like tatty, really [__] rude or whatever, but it was just like here are the facts of the situation and here's how I can help.
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“She was like, 'You going to apologize?' And I was like, 'Are you like we both pissed each other off? ... We're both probably in the wrong a little bit.'”— Shows the mutual misunderstanding and his attempt at resolution.
“I upset somebody. So I reached out to them and had a phone call and was like, 'Hey, let's [__] talk this through.'”— Demonstrates his willingness to address conflict directly despite social difficulties.
The Pete Weber show and reclaiming bravado after being mocked
Vittorio's show is titled after bowler Pete Weber's viral quote. He reveals that a clip of him saying 'I'm the guy' was taken out of context and circulated in comedian WhatsApp groups, leading to a period where he suppressed his confidence. The show helped him rebuild it.
Why this matters: It's a raw look at the psychological impact of behind-the-back mockery in the comedy scene and the process of regaining self-belief.
Background
He had a successful Edinburgh Fringe run and was told he was 'the guy,' which stressed him out. A podcast clip was edited to make him sound arrogant.
He explains that for a month he thought everyone was having fun, then discovered they'd been mocking him. This made him put a lid on his bravado and self-promotion for 1.5-2 years. Writing and performing the show, which uses Pete Weber as a symbol of unapologetic arrogance, allowed him to rebuild that part of himself. He realized that to promote a comedy tour, you need some bravado, and that it's okay to be ambitious and believe you can be one of the best. He connects this to the tall poppy syndrome and the fear of having 'notions.' He also references the poem from Coach Carter about our deepest fear being that we are powerful beyond measure, which helped him embrace his ambition.
Personal experience
He shares the story of the WhatsApp group, the month of blissful ignorance, and the subsequent shame. He also talks about his current struggle to balance humility with necessary self-promotion.
I thought we were all having fun. I thought this was a good time. And everybody just thought I was like a wanker.
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“There was like maybe a year and a half, two years where I like tried to put a lid on like bit of the self-promotion, a bit of the like bravado.”— Shows the lasting impact of the mockery.
“The reason I do standup comedy is I think I can be one of the best in the world at it.”— Demonstrates the reclaimed confidence.
Unintentional female audience for a silly male podcast
Vittorio's podcast with Mike, 'Mike and Vittorio's Guide to Parenting,' attracts many women because it offers playful, silly male banter that women may not get in their own friend groups.
Why this matters: He challenges the assumption that such podcasts are only for men, and suggests it fills a gap in female social interaction.
Background
They named it the stupidest thing they could think of, and it ended up in the children and family section on Spotify.
He theorizes that women are often socialized to be more buttoned-up and responsible, while men are allowed to be silly. The podcast provides a space where women can enjoy that dynamic. He also notes that this is similar to the appeal of 'The Basement Yard,' which has a 90% female audience. He sees it as a positive thing, providing a service that isn't readily available to women. He also mentions that some TV producers worried his audience might have manosphere tendencies, but he argues that by being softer and more open, they can steer young men away from toxic influences. He says, 'Someone has to talk to young men or else you're abandoning that to all of the influences that you have the biggest concerns about.'
Personal experience
He talks about the podcast's origin and the messages they get from listeners.
I think a lot of the women that listen to the podcast are like they don't get those conversations from like their group of girl mates... I think like we're providing a service that like isn't as readily available to women.
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“We have all sorts of people listening to the podcast. And I think a lot of people think it's like guys listen to the podcast, but it's like girls with fringes.”— Highlights the unexpected demographic.
“Someone has to talk to young men or else you're abandoning that to all of the influences that you have the biggest concerns about.”— Articulates the responsibility to engage young men to prevent radicalization.
American comedy's performative edginess vs. genuine tension
Vittorio criticizes some American comedians who get applause just for saying slurs or forbidden words, rather than crafting jokes that create real tension and release.
Why this matters: He distinguishes between using edgy material to build to a laugh and simply saying a forbidden sentence for clapter, calling it 'embarrassing.'
Background
He's been touring the US and observing the comedy scene.
He says that in America, if a joke doesn't work, some comedians will just add a slur and get applause from people who think they're fighting a good fight. He contrasts this with his own approach: he wants to make everyone uncomfortable at different points, but for different reasons—some from vulnerability, some from dark jokes. He believes you should stretch your audience, not just give them what they want. He also notes the right-wing equivalent of 'we don't like that orange guy' clapter. He finds it boring and pandering. He also mentions the Kevin Hart roast and the joke about lynching, noting that some people were outraged while he found it hilarious, and that roasts should be seen as ensemble performances, not competitions.
Personal experience
He shares his experience at the Comedy Store, where he saw many roast jokes being practiced, and his own philosophy for his show.
There is something a little bit embarrassing about some of American comedy where it's like if you have a joke that doesn't work, if you just stick a slur at the end, people will clap because they think you're like fighting this good fight.
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“It's all just clatter and it's all really really boring and pandering and sort of nonsense.”— Emphasizes his disdain for lazy edginess.
“I don't think anybody should be comfortable the whole time, but for different reasons.”— Explains his nuanced approach to discomfort in comedy.
Recommendations
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Strong Female Character by Fern Brady
Book
A book by a comedian about adult autism diagnosis.
He mentions it as one of two great books by comedians about adult autism diagnosis. He says Fern Brady is 'fucking mad' and the book is really interesting. He doesn't go into detail.
vs alternatives
He contrasts it with Pierre Novellie's book, saying Fern's is more 'shot chaser' while Pierre's is more analytical.
There's Fern Brady uh strong female character and there's uh Pierre Nlli Why can't I just enjoy things? And the real sort of like shot chaser like Fern is like [__] mad and Pierre is like and here's why I think that but it's really really interesting.
Another comedian's book about adult autism diagnosis.
He says Pierre talks about how the term 'autism' might become defunct because it's too broad, and discusses the levels. He finds it interesting.
vs alternatives
As above, contrasted with Fern Brady's book.
Pierre talks about a couple things in that uh where what I where he says like the terminology like of the word like autism will probably become like defunct reasonably tune because it's a really big umbrella term.
He recommends it to Chris, saying he'd really like it. It's about the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
He mentions it in the context of a story about a gangster mentioning his kids' names, which is a flex. He says the book is about a murder and the interviews with gangsters. He also mentions the author's new book 'London Falling.' He doesn't go deep.
You should read Say Say Say Nothing. I think you'd really like it.
He references the poem from the movie about our deepest fear being that we are powerful beyond measure, which helped him overcome the fear of being too confident.
He recounts the scene where the player recites the poem, and how it resonated with him about shining your light and not playing small. He uses it to illustrate the importance of embracing ambition despite the tall poppy syndrome.
Personal experience
He says this movie changed his perspective on downplaying his ambitions.
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. It's that we are powerful beyond measure. It is not our darkness but our light that scares us the most.
Also said
“You know if you shine your light it emboldens other people to shine theirs as well.”— Explains the inspirational takeaway.
Building community by helping neighbors with small tasks
Practice
He describes an old Italian lady in his building who feeds foxes and sometimes needs help sending a WhatsApp, so she knocks on his door. He sees this as a way to build connection.
He talks about the importance of community, especially in cities, and how it's scary but doable. He contrasts it with the isolation of digital nomad life. He admits he's not doing enough, but values being needed.
Personal experience
He helps the fox lady with WhatsApp.
Every so often she needs help sending a WhatsApp so she comes up and knocks on the door and I like fully integrated. So, it's like now I try to build that stuff and like I think it's really important.
Also said
“It's nice to be needed. It's nice that that person's got something that they need you for because the worst thing would be everybody else is a soloreneur digital nomad den justing their way through their day and you go none of us need any of us at all.”— Highlights the value of mutual dependence.
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I think this is a misconception about autism that we that it's like blissful lack of awareness about people socially. It's that I am constantly so worried that I've upset people, but I have no way to tell if that's the case whatsoever.
Counters the stereotype that autistic people are oblivious and don't care; highlights the anxiety.
I'm apologizing when I had no need to apologize. I'm patting myself on the back when I've ruined somebody's day.
Succinctly captures the double-bind of social misreading.
The job is say something you said a million times as if it's the first time you said it. But that's also like being autistic in the world... I'm doing a little script that I'm following that I've learned is how people like to be interacted with.
Draws a direct parallel between stand-up comedy and autistic masking.
I thought we were all having fun. I thought this was a good time. And everybody just thought I was like a wanker.
Raw admission of social betrayal and the pain of being mocked behind your back.
There is something a little bit embarrassing about some of American comedy where it's like if you have a joke that doesn't work, if you just stick a slur at the end, people will clap because they think you're like fighting this good fight.
Sharp critique of performative edginess in comedy.
I'm a low tea female obsessed sort of with a little earring. I get called gay on the internet every day of my whole life.
Self-deprecating and funny, highlighting the absurdity of online insults.
Someone has to talk to young men or else you're abandoning that to all of the influences that you have the biggest concerns about.
Articulates the responsibility to engage young men to prevent radicalization.
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