What's medicine hiding?! This film will keep you glued to your seat! Hubert Czerniak and Ryszard ...

Grzebyk studied this 'deprogramming' approach in France, where it was taught as a way to neutralize the future consequences of civilization's pharmaceutical interventions. He initially could not understand what 'future consequences' meant—thinking damage would be immediate if real—but later realized that the membrane-level blocks persist and silently predispose the body to severe chronic failure decades later. The mechanism, as he explains it, is that these preparations block ion channels in the cell membrane, which means the cell loses its correct electrical and chemical communication with the tissue environment. A blocked membrane means you are constantly running at a suboptimal energetic level, and when other health pillars start to tilt, this hidden debt accelerates the collapse.

Czerniak recalls Dr. Krasicki, a doctor who used ordinary bottled hydrogen peroxide with excellent results, and was subsequently reported to the military medical board for disciplinary action. At the hearing, he placed nearly 1,100 clinical studies on the judge's table and the case was immediately closed. The underlying biology is Warburg's theory: healthy cells use mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation, but cancer cells revert to fermenting glucose even in the presence of oxygen (Warburg effect). By supplying exogenous oxygen via peroxide, ozone, or high-dose vitamin C, you can theoretically force cancer cells back toward oxidative respiration. Czerniak cites this as an example of a cheap, effective protocol that was suppressed because it threatens pharmaceutical revenue.

Grzebyk uses anti-parasitic therapy as an example of the shallowness of single-modality natural medicine. A bioresonance device can detect and 'kill' parasites using frequencies, but without understanding the 16-link causal chain, the practitioner does nothing to alter the biological terrain that allowed the parasites to flourish. He notes that sometimes parasites serve a purpose—they may be consuming toxins or necrotic tissue that the body cannot clear—and hitting them aggressively without addressing the toxic load can worsen the patient. The deeper causal approach asks: why did the parasites take hold? Is the stomach acid too low to sterilize incoming food? Is the liver too congested to process toxins, creating an internal compost heap that parasites thrive on? Is the nervous system too depressed to mount a proper immune exclusion response?

Grzebyk argues that when oncologists say 60% of cancers are genetic, it is an abuse of terminology. He clarifies that genes may predispose someone, but people do not have to create the conditions for a tumor to develop. This is not genetics but epigenetics—the external environment altering gene expression. Czerniak adds that his research into vitamin C shows it acts epigenetically, unblocking over 1800 silenced genes, which points toward practical interventions rather than fatalistic acceptance of 'genetic destiny.' The conversation frames the genetic narrative as a way to sell the incurability of disease, which keeps the pharmaceutical model intact.

Czerniak gives a personal example of unresolved joint pain that he eventually traced to fascia restrictions and trigger points (specifically suboccipital points), finding that releasing upper body tension resolved his knee pain. Only after this self-experimentation did he learn about the posterior myofascial line. The conversation points out that such manual therapies—like massaging or needling specific points—are cheap and effective, which is why they were removed from medical curricula: a doctor who uses manual techniques will prescribe fewer drugs.

Grzebyk connects this speculation to the work of Simoncini and Anatol Rybczyński on the fungal nature of tumors. Rybczyński found that dissolving tumor extracts required ether—not water or alcohol—and after three sterile days, fungal mycelia began growing. Black mycelium from melanoma, brown from sarcoma, and lighter from carcinomas. Attempts to kill these spores with near-absolute-zero temperatures, aqua regia, boiling formalin, or even ~2000°C failed. Grzebyk's point is that if chemical or physical extremes cannot kill the spore-like component of cancer, chemotherapy is even less likely to eradicate it.

Czerniak cites a habilitation thesis by Dr. Sienkiewicz which found that children who avoided the routine vaccine schedule were 600% less likely to develop all the chronic diseases that pediatricians now see as common. He contrasts his own unvaccinated grandson, who at age 2 can read, write, and add numbers—behaviors Czerniak identifies as the standard for his generation but which today's doctors call 'genius'—with a 7-year-old vaccinated patient who barely walks, does not speak, and has poor contact. Grzebyk adds that the vaccines (which they code as 'dobrodziejstwa' – blessings/benefits) block ion channels in cell membranes and interfere with the proper flow of 'energy' through the body, an observation he says was first made by homeopaths.