UNFUCG
DashboardSearchChatBookmarksNotificationsActivityPremiumProfile
?
Home
Search
Chat
Saved
Profile
Episode
Tristyn Lee Quit Carnivore Because He Was Getting TOO Shredded - What He Eats Now
~94 min
Episode Brief·YouTube

Tristyn Lee Quit Carnivore Because He Was Getting TOO Shredded - What He Eats Now

Thomas DeLauer
Watch on YouTube Add to chat My bookmarks← All sources

TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

4 items

TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

4 items
1

Tristan Lee quit the carnivore diet because he couldn't eat enough to gain weight, dropping to an unhealthy 3-5% body fat, and added white rice and sweet potato to support muscle growth.

2

Both Thomas DeLauer and Tristan Lee emphasize that extreme leanness can harm sleep, performance, and mental health, and that carbs around workouts improve muscle fullness and glucose tolerance.

3

When reintroducing carbs, choosing clean sources like white rice and sweet potato, and opting for leaner protein cuts, helps avoid the high-fat-high-carb combo that drives overeating.

4

For fat loss, a stable deficit with protein at 1g per pound of lean body mass, maintaining gym performance, and weekly scale progress is more sustainable than aggressive cuts, especially when lean.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

4 items

carb-timing-for-muscle-fullness

WhatConsume carbohydrates, primarily white rice or sweet potato, around your workout window to maintain muscle glycogen and fullness, while keeping the rest of the day lower-carb or keto/carnivore.
WhenPre-workout (and possibly post-workout) to fuel training and replenish glycogen.
DoseNot specified; adjust based on goals and tolerance.
For whomIndividuals transitioning from keto/carnivore who want to gain muscle or improve aesthetics without losing the benefits of low-carb; also for those who want to stay lean but avoid the 'stringy' look.
WhyCarbohydrates increase baseline glycogen levels, filling muscle cells for a fuller aesthetic look, and help maintain glucose tolerance so that occasional carb intake doesn't cause excessive water rebound.
CaveatsStart with clean, low-fat carb sources to avoid digestive issues and the high-fat-high-carb combo that promotes overeating. Monitor glucose tolerance and adjust.

Tristan Lee explains that even when extremely lean, having carbohydrates in the diet provides a higher baseline of glycogen, which fills muscles and avoids the depleted, stringy look common in keto bodybuilders who cut fat low. Thomas DeLauer adds that long-term keto/carnivore can cause loss of glucose tolerance, so when carbs are eaten, there's a significant water rebound and discomfort. By keeping carbs around workouts, you can maintain that tolerance and still benefit from low-carb for fat loss. Tristan notes that he would still use this approach even if he needed to get super shredded again, keeping carbs pre-workout and the rest of the day more keto/carnivore.

Mechanism

Carbohydrates are stored as glycogen in muscles, drawing water into the cells and increasing cell volume. This creates a fuller appearance. Additionally, maintaining some carb intake preserves the body's ability to handle glucose, preventing insulin resistance and the water rebound seen when carbs are reintroduced after long-term avoidance.

Personal experience

Tristan: 'I would keep carbohydrates in my diet just because I have found that from an aesthetic perspective, it fills your muscles more.' Thomas: 'I would go back to a keto carnivore for most of the day with slightly lower fat than I normally would, but I would have the carbohydrates pre-workout.'

Having carbohydrates in your diet, having a higher baseline of carbohydrates is going to provide higher baseline level of glycogen likely. And so if you're looking for aesthetics, filling the muscle cells as much as possible and giving you that full look... is going to have a better effect than having no carbs.

Also said
“I would keep carbohydrates in my diet just because I have found that from an aesthetic perspective, it fills your muscles more.”— Direct personal experience supporting the protocol.
“Because I think people watching that have done keto carnivore and have either slipped up or purposefully had carbs, it's like the water rebound from that and just the tolerance of those carbohydrates is terrible.”— Explains the glucose tolerance issue that carb timing helps avoid.

lean-protein-with-carbs

WhatWhen incorporating carbohydrates into a diet that was previously keto/carnivore, shift to leaner cuts of meat (e.g., 93/7 beef, lean steak, chicken breast) to better control fat intake and avoid the hyperpalatable, high-calorie combination of high fat and high carbs.
WhenDuring meals that include carbohydrates, or as a general strategy when carbs are a regular part of the diet.
DoseNot specified; choose lean cuts and add fats separately if needed.
For whomAnyone transitioning from a high-fat low-carb diet to a moderate-carb diet, particularly those with body composition goals.
WhyHigh-fat and high-carb meals together are hyperpalatable and can lead to overeating; leaner proteins make calorie and macronutrient tracking easier, especially when insulin dynamics from carbs increase fat storage potential.
CaveatsNot necessary if you are in a gaining phase and need extra calories, but for those in a deficit or maintenance, it helps prevent accidental surplus.

Tristan Lee explains that on carnivore, he ate very fatty steaks, but when he added carbs, he naturally shifted to leaner cuts like 93/7 beef and lean steak. He notes that from a tracking perspective, leaner cuts are easier to account for because the fat content of ribeyes can vary by 20g or more, leading to a potential 200-calorie difference per steak. Thomas DeLauer adds that when carbs are in the equation, calories matter more because insulin dynamics come into play, and the high-fat-high-carb combo can easily become hypercaloric. They both agree that for someone trying to create a deficit, this variability can erase the deficit. Tristan also mentions that when he was actively gaining weight, he wasn't concerned about extra calories, but for fat loss, precision matters.

Mechanism

When carbohydrates are present, insulin levels rise, promoting nutrient storage. A simultaneous high fat intake can lead to greater fat storage if calories are in excess. Additionally, the combination is highly palatable, making it easy to overconsume. By separating high-fat and high-carb meals or reducing fat when carbs are present, you improve nutrient partitioning and control energy intake.

Personal experience

Tristan: 'I kind of just generally shifted to more leaner cuts. Um, nothing against the fattier cuts, but from a tracking perspective, it's easier to to track leaner cuts than it is fattier cuts.' Thomas: 'If you go for a fatty cut of steak... it's like a if carbohydrates are in the equation, like you can still put yourself into that spot where you're high fat, high carb, and just hypercaloric and easily.'

From a tracking perspective, it's easier to to track leaner cuts than it is fattier cuts.

Also said
“If you compare two ribeye steaks, like all you have to do is look at them. ... you could be talking a difference of 20 grams of fat between the two and not even realize it.”— Illustrates the hidden calorie variability in fatty cuts.
“When carbohydrates are in the equation, it's still hard for me to gain fat because I have a healthy metabolism, but definitely is easier.”— Acknowledges that carbs make fat gain easier, reinforcing the need for control.

stable-deficit-performance-cut

WhatFor fat loss, create a moderate energy deficit that allows for noticeable weekly weight loss (on the scale) without sacrificing gym performance. Keep protein at 1g per pound of lean body mass (or slightly higher in aggressive deficits), and use strength maintenance or improvement as the primary indicator of muscle retention.
WhenDuring a cutting phase, especially when already relatively lean (below 10% body fat).
DoseDeficit size not specified; adjust to see consistent weekly weight loss. Protein: 1g/lb lean body mass, possibly higher if deficit is aggressive.
For whomIndividuals with body composition goals, particularly those who are already lean and want to minimize muscle loss during a cut.
WhyAggressive deficits risk muscle loss, especially when lean. Maintaining performance ensures that the body is preserving muscle tissue. Protein adequacy supports muscle retention. Weekly scale trends and mirror checks provide feedback.
CaveatsIf strength is dropping, increase calories slightly. Extreme deficits may be appropriate for those with higher body fat percentages initially. Not for stage-level bodybuilding prep where dehydration and extreme leanness alter performance.

Tristan Lee explains that he prefers a 'pretty stable cut, nothing too aggressive and also nothing too slow,' enough to see changes on the scale week over week without sacrificing gym performance. He emphasizes that muscle takes much longer to build than fat to lose, so preserving muscle is paramount. Thomas DeLauer strongly agrees, stating that performance is the number one barometer: if you're improving in the gym, you're building muscle; if you're maintaining strength while cutting, you're retaining muscle. He adds that you should not be losing strength when cutting until you reach extreme stage-lean levels. They both note that beginners or those with higher body fat can often gain strength while cutting due to improved nutrient partitioning and cardio. The protocol is simple: maintain protein, keep performance up, and ensure the scale trends down weekly.

Mechanism

In a calorie deficit, the body breaks down both fat and muscle for energy. Adequate protein intake and resistance training signal the body to preserve muscle. Performance is a direct proxy for muscle retention: if you're losing strength, you're likely losing muscle. A moderate deficit allows for sustainable fat loss without triggering excessive metabolic adaptation or muscle catabolism.

Personal experience

Tristan: 'For me personally, what I found works best is a pretty stable cut. Uh, nothing too aggressive and also nothing too slow. Like enough that it's noticeable week over week.' Thomas: 'Performance is your best barometer. Absolutely. with everything, whether you're cutting, you're you're trying to lose body fat, whether you're trying to gain muscle, performance is the absolute like that is the number one thing that you should focus on.'

You absolutely positively should not and do not need to be losing strength when you're cutting.

Also said
“If you keep your performance up in the gym, if you keep your protein at an adequate amount... you're generally losing weight week over week, you can be pretty confident that the muscle is being retained, and you're losing body fat.”— Summarizes the three key pillars of the protocol.
“I think generally 1 g per pound of lean body weight is a pretty good marker to cover your basis, maybe a little bit higher if you're in an aggressive deficit.”— Provides specific protein recommendation.

food-as-performance-fuel

WhatAdopt a mindset where food choices are based on what makes you feel good and supports your training goals, rather than eating for pleasure or variety. Stick to a few staple foods that you digest well and that fuel performance.
WhenDaily dietary approach, especially for those with specific body composition or athletic goals.
DoseNot applicable; it's a mindset.
For whomAthletes or individuals who prioritize performance and body composition over culinary enjoyment.
WhySimplifies decision-making, reduces the likelihood of eating hyperpalatable foods that lead to overeating, and ensures consistent nutrient intake for performance.
CaveatsMay be socially restrictive or psychologically challenging for some; not necessary for everyone, but can be effective for those who struggle with moderation.

Tristan Lee states that he is very regimented with his diet, only picking foods that make him feel good and benefit his performance. He doesn't treat food as an enjoyment thing, which some people find sad, but he gets enjoyment elsewhere. His staples are lean proteins, white rice, sweet potato, and a few vegetables. This approach, he argues, is not restrictive in a negative sense because these are the foods that work for him. Thomas DeLauer doesn't directly endorse this mindset but acknowledges the simplicity of carnivore and how it eliminates variables. The conversation implies that this performance-oriented approach can be a powerful tool for those with specific physique goals.

Mechanism

By viewing food as fuel, you eliminate the emotional and reward-driven eating that often leads to overconsumption of calorie-dense, low-nutrient foods. This aligns with the concept of 'elimination of variables' that makes diets like carnivore successful—simplicity reduces decision fatigue and accidental overeating.

Personal experience

Tristan: 'I don't really treat food as an enjoyment thing. I treat food as a performance thing. And some people say that's that's sad, whatever, this, that, and the other. It's not where I get my enjoyment from, which is fine.'

I don't really treat food as an enjoyment thing. I treat food as a performance thing.

Also said
“I only pick foods that make me feel good. So people say this is restrictive, that's restrictive. I tell them, well, these are the things that make me feel good and these are the things that are going to benefit my performance. Anything else I don't need.”— Explains the rationale behind the mindset.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

3 items

carnivore-to-carb-shift

Tristan Lee quit the carnivore diet because he couldn't consume enough calories to gain weight, leading to 3-5% body fat, digestive issues from high fat, and satiety from protein; he added white rice and sweet potato to gain body fat and build muscle.

Why this matters: Challenges the narrative that carnivore is universally sustainable for muscle gain; shows that extreme leanness can be counterproductive.

Background

Tristan started keto at 13 and moved to carnivore for simplicity. He felt great mentally and inflammation-wise but couldn't eat enough to support weight gain.

Tristan explains that on carnivore, he was eating around 250g protein and 250g fat per day at 138-140 lbs, which caused digestive distress and satiety issues. He couldn't increase protein further due to satiety, and the high fat intake threw off his digestion. To escape the unhealthy 3-5% body fat range, he needed to gain body fat, so he reintroduced carbohydrates—specifically white rice and sweet potato—which allowed him to eat more total calories without digestive discomfort. He emphasizes that he felt great on carnivore otherwise, but his goal of building muscle necessitated the change. Thomas DeLauer shares a similar experience of being too lean affecting his sleep and face, and the mental struggle of needing to be super shredded.

Personal experience

Tristan: 'I got down to extremely low unhealthy levels of body fat, which was around the 3 4 5% body fat. And that wasn't allowing me to just live in general.' Thomas: 'I was too too lean all the time, and it was showing in my face a lot. Um, and it was starting to affect my sleep.'

The reason why I quit the carnivore diet in particular was because I couldn't eat enough food overall to gain weight.

Also said
“I got down to extremely low unhealthy levels of body fat, which was around the 3 4 5% body fat.”— Quantifies the extreme leanness that prompted the change.
“Carbohydrates, mostly in the form of just white rice and sweet potato, facilitated my ability to gain the body fat that I needed in order to put on additional amounts of muscle tissue.”— Specifies the exact carb sources and purpose.

glucose-tolerance-carb-quality

Long-term keto/carnivore can impair glucose tolerance, causing water rebound and discomfort when carbs are reintroduced; choosing clean carb sources like white rice and sweet potato, and timing them around workouts, helps mitigate this.

Why this matters: Addresses a common pitfall for people transitioning off low-carb diets and provides a practical solution.

Background

Many people who try keto/carnivore and then eat carbs experience bloating and water retention, leading them to believe carbs are inherently bad.

Thomas DeLauer points out that after months of keto/carnivore, the body loses glucose tolerance, so when carbs are consumed, there's a significant water rebound and feelings of misery. He suggests maintaining some carb intake around workouts to preserve glucose tolerance. Tristan Lee adds that the source of carbs matters greatly: many people reintroduce junk food like burgers and fries, which are high in fat and sodium, not just carbs. Clean sources like white rice and sweet potato are less likely to cause digestive issues. They also discuss that the standard American diet is actually high fat and high carb together, which drives overeating and poor nutrient partitioning, referencing Dr. Nick Norwitz's work on improper nutrient partitioning as a cause of obesity.

Personal experience

Thomas: 'I think if I needed to get super super paper thin skin lean, I would go back to a keto carnivore for most of the day with slightly lower fat than I normally would, but I would have the carbohydrates pre-workout.'

Because I think people watching that have done keto carnivore and have either slipped up or purposefully had carbs, it's like the water rebound from that and just the tolerance of those carbohydrates is terrible.

Also said
“Often times it's junk that they're putting back into their diet rather than just white rice or sweet potato or things that are more likely to have better digestion with.”— Highlights the common mistake of reintroducing poor-quality carbs.
“The standard American diet is not a high carb diet. The standard American diet is a high carb highfat diet.”— Reframes the obesity epidemic as a fat-carb combo issue.

extreme-leanness-mental-health

Both speakers acknowledge that maintaining extremely low body fat (3-5%) can be driven by internal validation issues and can negatively impact mental health and sleep.

Why this matters: Rare candid discussion about the psychological downsides of extreme dieting in the fitness community.

Background

Tristan Lee was known for being year-round shredded, but he realized it was unhealthy.

Tristan admits that being 3-5% body fat wasn't allowing him to live normally, and he had to 'eat his way out of it.' Thomas shares that his own extreme leanness affected his sleep and facial appearance, and he had to come to grips with the fact that he didn't need to be that lean to be happy. Tristan calls it a 'weird internal validation thing' that needs to go, acknowledging it's a mental health discussion. This highlights the often-overlooked psychological toll of chasing ultra-low body fat percentages.

Personal experience

Thomas: 'I was too too lean all the time, and it was showing in my face a lot. Um, and it was starting to affect my sleep. ... having to come to grips with the fact that like I don't need to be 3, four, 5% to be happy.' Tristan: 'That's an weird internal validation thing that that that needs to go.'

I don't need to be 3, four, 5% to be happy. Like that's that's an that's an weird internal validation thing that that that needs to go.

Also said
“My sleep was affected because of my extremely low body fat.”— Links physical consequence to extreme leanness.
Disclosed sponsorships1speaker disclosed

Thrive Market

Service Sponsored · disclosed

Thomas promotes Thrive Market as a source for high-quality ingredients, comparing it to European food standards, and highlights the convenience of doorstep delivery and a free gift.

DisclosureThomas DeLauer is sponsored by Thrive Market; he provides a discount link in the video description.

Thomas DeLauer explains that Thrive Market vets ingredients so consumers don't have to read labels, ensuring no 'garbage ingredients.' He appreciates that they emulate the food quality he experienced in Europe. He offers a 30% discount and a free $60 gift with purchase. This recommendation is part of a sponsored segment.

vs alternatives

Compared to regular grocery stores where you need a 'practical PhD' to read ingredients, Thrive Market curates products with high-quality standards.

Personal experience

Thomas: 'I spent a lot of time in Europe recently and I was just almost in love with the food quality there. And the thing that I like about Thrive is they do a good job of emulating the kind of food quality that's coming into the foods that they have.'

Thrive Market does that already. They do not have garbage ingredients coming into the food that they have on their digital shelves, so to speak.

Also said
“I know that even if I'm getting something that's like a sweet treat or something that I want to enjoy that's even a snack, at least I don't have to worry about having lowquality ingredients.”— Highlights the trust in their ingredient standards.
Find Thrive

Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

6 items
I got down to extremely low unhealthy levels of body fat, which was around the 3 4 5% body fat.
Shocking specific number that illustrates the extreme leanness.
I don't really treat food as an enjoyment thing. I treat food as a performance thing.
Controversial mindset that challenges conventional food culture.
You absolutely positively should not and do not need to be losing strength when you're cutting.
Strong, actionable statement against common cutting mistakes.
The standard American diet is not a high carb diet. The standard American diet is a high carb highfat diet.
Reframes the obesity debate succinctly.
Performance is the absolute like that is the number one thing that you should focus on.
Core principle for training and dieting.
Because I think people watching that have done keto carnivore and have either slipped up or purposefully had carbs, it's like the water rebound from that and just the tolerance of those carbohydrates is terrible.
Explains a common experience and the concept of glucose tolerance.

Sign in to share feedback

Tell us if this brief hit the mark or missed it — feedback feeds back into the next iteration of the prompt.

Topics covered

carnivore-dietketo-dietbody-fat-percentagecarbohydrate-reintroductionglucose-tolerancemuscle-glycogenaestheticslean-protein-sourcescaloric-deficitfat-lossmuscle-retentionperformance-metricsfood-qualitystandard-american-dietnutrient-partitioningmental-healthbody-imagethrive-market
Free account

Make this library yours

Reading is free for everyone. A free account adds the personal layer: save protocols, follow experts, and see how the other experts weigh in on this same topic.

Create a free accountSign in

Where the experts disagree — weekly

One email a week: the sharpest new disagreements and protocols from the library. No spam, unsubscribe anytime.

Educational summary of the cited expert source — not medical advice. Open the source recording linked above and consult a qualified physician before acting on any protocol.