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Everything We Know About Sugar Just Got Flipped Upside Down (Your Fat Loss Depends on This)
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Everything We Know About Sugar Just Got Flipped Upside Down (Your Fat Loss Depends on This)

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Sugar can increase FGF-21, a protein that boosts energy expenditure and brown fat activity, but this effect is blunted in overweight individuals, making sugar a poor fat-loss tool for those who need it most.

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Increasing protein intake is a more reliable way to boost metabolism, as 20-30% of protein calories are burned during digestion, far outweighing any FGF-21 benefit from sugar.

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For metabolically healthy people, occasional sugar from whole fruits before exercise may enhance fat loss via FGF-21, but chronically high sugar intake likely leads to inflammation and insulin resistance.

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Thomas DeLauer recommends Thrive Market for sugar-free snacks and his own allulose-sweetened nut butters as alternatives to refined sugar.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Increase Protein Intake for Thermic Effect

WhatConsume a higher proportion of calories from protein to leverage the thermic effect of food.
WhenAt each meal, especially when aiming for fat loss.
DoseNo specific dose given, but generally 25-30% of total calories from protein.
For whomAnyone, particularly those seeking fat loss.
WhyProtein has a thermic effect of 20-30%, meaning a significant portion of its calories are burned during digestion, increasing overall energy expenditure.
CaveatsNone mentioned by the speaker, though excessive protein may be contraindicated for those with kidney issues.

The speaker emphasizes that protein's thermic effect is a more reliable and substantial way to increase energy expenditure than relying on sugar's FGF-21 effect. He explains that for every 100 calories of protein, only 70-80 are actually absorbed due to the energy cost of metabolism. This makes protein a superior choice for fat loss because it not only provides satiety and supports muscle mass but also inherently burns calories. He contrasts this with the uncertain and context-dependent FGF-21 response from sugar, which may not occur in overweight individuals. The protocol is straightforward: prioritize protein in your diet to naturally boost metabolism.

Mechanism

The thermic effect of protein is due to the energy required for deamination, urea synthesis, and protein synthesis. Unlike carbohydrates and fats, protein has a high cost of metabolism, leading to a net caloric loss.

For every 100 calories of protein that you consume, you're really only absorbing 70 to 80 actual calories from it because 20 to 30 of every 100 calories is used just in the sheer metabolism of it.

Also said
“When you consume protein, 20% of the calories in the protein you consumed alone are being used just in the sheer metabolism of that protein.”— Reinforces the thermic effect percentage.

Use MCT Oil for Metabolic Boost

WhatConsume MCT oil to increase adrenaline and resting metabolic rate.
WhenIn a fasted state or on a low-carb diet, such as in morning coffee.
DoseNot specified; typical doses are 1-2 tablespoons.
For whomThose on low-carb or ketogenic diets, or anyone looking for a small metabolic edge.
WhyMCT oil is rapidly absorbed and increases adrenaline, which can slightly boost metabolism.
CaveatsMCT oil contains calories, so it's unlikely to offset the calories consumed; best used in a fasted state or low-carb context to avoid fat gain.

The speaker explains that MCT oil is unique because it bypasses normal fat digestion and is absorbed directly into the portal vein, leading to a catecholamine response. This adrenaline release can increase resting metabolic rate slightly. However, he cautions that the calorie content of the oil means it won't magically cause fat loss; it's more of a tool to support a low-carb lifestyle. He suggests using it in coffee or as a supplement when in a fasted state to maximize the metabolic effect without adding excess calories.

Mechanism

MCTs are medium-chain triglycerides that are absorbed directly into the portal vein and transported to the liver, where they can be rapidly oxidized. This process stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, leading to a release of adrenaline and a slight increase in energy expenditure.

MCT oil does absorb quickly into the portal vein... you get an increase in adrenaline that actually increases your resting metabolic rate a tiny bit.

Also said
“So what happens is you get an increase in adrenaline that actually increases your resting metabolic rate a tiny bit. That's why there's actually a little bit of sort of a catecholamine adrenaline response when you have MCT oil.”— Explains the mechanism of adrenaline increase.

Strategic Sugar Consumption for Fat Loss

WhatConsume an acute bolus of sugar from whole fruits before exercise to increase FGF-21 and energy expenditure.
WhenBefore being very active, for metabolically healthy individuals.
Dose50-60 grams of carbohydrates from fruit.
For whomMetabolically healthy individuals who are not overweight or insulin resistant.
WhySugar increases FGF-21, which boosts energy expenditure and brown fat activity, and when combined with exercise, may enhance fat loss.
CaveatsNot for overweight or insulin-resistant individuals; chronic high sugar intake may cause inflammation and insulin resistance. The effect is acute and may not translate to long-term fat loss.

The speaker suggests that for those who are already healthy, occasionally consuming a bolus of sugar from natural sources like fruit before exercise could provide a double benefit: the FGF-21 response increases energy expenditure, and the exercise further burns calories. He emphasizes that this is not a license to eat refined sugar, but rather a strategic use of naturally occurring sugars. He also notes that the sugar should come from fruits high in sucrose, like kiwi, to mimic the study conditions. The key is that this protocol is only for those without metabolic dysfunction, as overweight individuals won't get the FGF-21 benefit.

Mechanism

FGF-21 is a hormone released in response to sugar intake that increases uncoupling proteins in brown adipose tissue, leading to thermogenesis. It also acts on the brain to reduce sugar cravings. In healthy individuals, this creates a negative feedback loop that limits sugar intake and increases energy expenditure.

If you are not overweight, the occasional acute bolus of sugar could actually work... you might find that occasionally spiking yourself with this, if you're healthy already and not metabolically dysfunctional, this could increase FGF-21 and it could actually be good for you.

Also said
“The thing that you may want to do is occasionally do that before you're going to be very active because then you're getting a double whammy. You're getting the FGF-21 effect and you're going to be exercising and expending energy that way.”— Explains the synergistic effect of sugar and exercise.

Increase Fiber Intake for GLP-1

WhatConsume more dietary fiber to increase GLP-1, a gut incretin that improves glucose homeostasis and promotes fat loss.
WhenWith meals, especially carbohydrate-containing meals.
DoseNot specified; general recommendation is 25-35 grams per day.
For whomEveryone, especially those looking to improve metabolic health.
WhyFiber stimulates GLP-1 secretion, which modulates insulin and promotes satiety and fat loss.
CaveatsNone mentioned.

The speaker explains that fiber is not just for gut health and satiety; it also has a profound effect on GLP-1, a hormone that regulates insulin and promotes fat loss. He compares this to the effects of drugs like semaglutide, which mimic GLP-1. By increasing fiber intake, you can naturally boost GLP-1, improving glucose control and aiding fat loss. This is a simple, well-established protocol that aligns with general health advice but is framed here as a way to leverage the body's own incretin system.

Mechanism

Fiber fermentation in the gut produces short-chain fatty acids that stimulate L-cells to secrete GLP-1. GLP-1 enhances insulin secretion, slows gastric emptying, and promotes satiety, all of which contribute to better glucose control and potential fat loss.

Fiber is going to be one of the biggest drivers of GLP-1... fiber also has a profound effect on this GLP-1 which signals glucose homeostasis and signals fat loss to occur as well.

Also said
“It's not just about the mechanical digestion of the fiber. It's about the hormonal gut incretin effect that comes when you consume fiber.”— Highlights the hormonal mechanism beyond mechanical benefits.

Eat More and Move More for Metabolic Rebuilding

WhatGradually increase calorie intake and physical activity to upregulate metabolism and improve body composition.
WhenAs a long-term strategy for those with sluggish metabolisms.
DoseNo specific dose; gradually increase both food intake and activity.
For whomThose who have been chronically undereating and sedentary.
WhyBy increasing energy intake and expenditure in tandem, you can rebuild a stronger metabolism and become more vibrant.
CaveatsRequires consistency and gradual progression to avoid fat gain.

The speaker presents this as a holistic approach to fat loss that contrasts with the typical 'eat less, move more' advice. He suggests that many people are stuck in a cycle of undereating and low energy, which suppresses metabolism. By intentionally eating more (especially nutrient-dense foods) and increasing activity, you can increase your metabolic rate and build a stronger, more energetic body. This approach is framed as a way to 'rebuild everything' and become more vibrant, rather than just losing weight.

Mechanism

Increasing calorie intake can reverse metabolic adaptation that occurs with chronic dieting, while increased physical activity builds muscle mass and improves mitochondrial function, both of which raise resting metabolic rate.

You're eating a little bit more but you're moving more and recovering more and building more. You're becoming stronger and more vibrant in the process.

Also said
“It's like rather than being like weak and barely eating and barely moving, you're eating a little bit more but you're moving more and recovering more and building more.”— Contrasts the typical dieting approach with the recommended one.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Impaired FGF-21 Response in Overweight Individuals

In overweight people, sugar does not increase FGF-21, leading to a lack of the negative feedback loop that would reduce sugar intake and increase energy expenditure.

Why this matters: Reveals a potential mechanism for why overweight individuals struggle with sugar cravings and weight gain: their FGF-21 signaling is broken.

Background

FGF-21 normally acts as a metabolic regulator, signaling the brain to reduce sugar intake and increasing energy expenditure. In healthy people, sugar consumption triggers this response, but in overweight people, it does not.

The speaker cites a human study where healthy individuals showed increased FGF-21 and reduced blood flow to the striatum (a brain region involved in reward) after sugar intake, indicating a natural brake on sugar consumption. In overweight individuals, this response was absent, meaning they don't get the signal to stop eating sugar and don't experience the metabolic boost. This suggests that sugar's effects are highly dependent on metabolic health, and that overweight individuals may be trapped in a cycle where sugar consumption leads to more sugar consumption without the compensatory energy expenditure. This finding underscores the importance of metabolic health in determining dietary responses.

In overweight people, the sugar did not increase FGF-21... and it did not decrease blood flow to the region of the brain that would tell the person to not eat as much sugar.

Also said
“So when a healthy person consumes a lot of sugar, FGF-21 will increase energy expenditure to modulate for that sugar and also tell the brain, hey, you don't need to eat quite as much sugar.”— Explains the normal function of FGF-21 as a negative feedback loop.
“In unhealthy or overweight people, it did not do this. This is exactly the point here. Healthy people can probably consume sugar just fine because it's going to tell them to stop eating it and to actually burn it. But where is the line drawn? Overweight people consume sugar and they just keep going and going.”— Highlights the critical difference between healthy and overweight individuals.

Low-Protein Diet Increases FGF-21 but Is Not Recommended

A low-protein diet can also increase FGF-21, but the speaker warns against chasing this mechanism because it sacrifices the thermic effect and other benefits of protein.

Why this matters: Demonstrates that multiple pathways can increase FGF-21, and that focusing on a single molecular mechanism can be misleading.

Background

FGF-21 is also increased by low-protein diets, which might suggest that eating less protein could aid fat loss. However, protein has a high thermic effect and is crucial for muscle maintenance and satiety.

The speaker references a study showing that a low-protein diet increased FGF-21 and uncoupling proteins. However, he argues that this does not mean we should eat a low-protein diet, because protein itself has a thermic effect of 20-30%, provides satiety, and supports muscle mass, which increases resting metabolic rate. He cautions against 'chasing some molecular mechanism' because there are often multiple ways to achieve the same endpoint, and the overall dietary context matters more. This insight encourages a holistic view of nutrition rather than reductionist approaches.

We don't want to be chasing some molecular mechanism because there's many different ways to get that same molecular mechanism. Eating sugar might increase FGF-21 which might make us burn fat. But in that same token, so does a low protein diet. And if we ate a low protein diet, we'd be missing out on the thermic effect of protein.

Also said
“There was a study published in genes and nutrition that believe it or not found that a low protein diet increased FGF21.”— Provides the evidence for the alternative pathway.

Metabolic State Determines Sugar's Effects

The effect of sugar on weight and metabolism depends on whether the individual is metabolically healthy or insulin resistant.

Why this matters: Shifts the focus from 'sugar is bad' to 'it depends on your metabolic health', offering a more nuanced view.

Background

Traditional advice often demonizes sugar universally. The speaker presents evidence that in healthy individuals, sugar may have a self-limiting effect via FGF-21, but in insulin-resistant individuals, it exacerbates problems.

The speaker cites a study in Diabetia where insulin-resistant individuals on a high-carb diet lost less weight than those on high-fat or high-protein diets, even with matched calories. This suggests that for those with metabolic dysfunction, sugar and carbs are more detrimental. He ties this to the FGF-21 response being impaired in overweight people, meaning they don't get the metabolic compensation. The takeaway is that blanket recommendations about sugar are insufficient; individual metabolic health must be considered.

What this tells us is someone's current metabolic state plays a very big part. So when we take mice that are not necessarily metabolically damaged, we give them sugar and they lose weight. That's not directly the same as saying, 'Hey, you're an insulin resistant human that has a hard time with carbohydrates. Let's give you a high sucrose diet.' That may not work.

Also said
“The high-fat and the high protein diets lost 2.8 kg and 2.7 kg more weight respectfully than the high carb group.”— Quantifies the difference in weight loss based on diet composition in insulin-resistant people.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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MCT Oil

Supplement

A supplement that can increase metabolic rate and adrenaline, recommended for those on low-carb diets.

The speaker recommends MCT oil as a tool to slightly boost metabolism, especially when used in a fasted state or with coffee. He explains its unique absorption and the resulting adrenaline response. While he doesn't specify a brand, he presents it as a useful supplement for those looking to enhance fat loss, particularly in the context of a ketogenic or low-carb diet.

MCT oil does absorb quickly into the portal vein... you get an increase in adrenaline that actually increases your resting metabolic rate a tiny bit.

Also said
“So take like an MCT powder, MCT oil, and mix it up with your coffee. But just remember that there's calories in the oil. So, it's unlikely that you're going to offset the calories that you got from the oil with the fat burning.”— Provides practical usage advice and a caveat about calories.
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Thrive Market

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An online membership-based grocery store with a wide selection of sugar-free snacks and treats.

DisclosureThe speaker provides an affiliate link for 30% off and a free gift, and notes that using it supports his channel.

The speaker recommends Thrive Market as a resource for finding sugar-free alternatives to common snacks. He mentions that users can sort by sugar-free items and find products sweetened with stevia, monk fruit, and other natural sweeteners. He highlights that it's a way to enjoy sweet things without the negative effects of sugar, and he personally uses it as a source for healthier options. The affiliation is clearly disclosed, and he encourages viewers to use his link for a discount.

Personal experience

I put a link down below for 30% off through Thrive Market... If you use that link down below, you sort by like sugar-free items.

If you use that link down below, you sort by like sugar-free items. There's a bunch of different like snacks and treats and things like that that don't have sugar.

Also said
“If you like the sweet things and you just want to have things that are not going to have sucralose and not going to have aspartame, they're going to have maybe stevia, monk fruit, there's a plethora of options there.”— Describes the types of sweeteners used in the products.
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Thomas DeLauer's Allulose-Sweetened Nut Butters

Product Sponsored · disclosed

Nut butters sweetened with allulose, a low-calorie sweetener, as a healthier alternative to sugary spreads.

DisclosureThe speaker created these nut butters himself.

The speaker mentions that he created nut butters like cinnamon Brazil nut butter and chocolate hazelnut butter, sweetened with allulose instead of sugar. He recommends them for those who want a sweet fix without the negative effects of sugar. He notes that they are calorie-dense but can fit into a low-carb diet. This is a direct product promotion with full disclosure of his involvement.

vs alternatives

Compared to Nutella, which is high in sugar, these nut butters use allulose, a low-calorie sweetener that does not spike blood sugar.

Personal experience

I also created some nut butters and things like that that are sweetened with allulose. Like there's a cinnamon Brazil nut butter, there's a chocolate hazelnut that's a lot like Nutella that's sweetened with allulose. Highly, highly recommend those if you just need something that's going to give you that sweet fix.

There's a cinnamon Brazil nut butter, there's a chocolate hazelnut that's a lot like Nutella that's sweetened with allulose. Highly, highly recommend those if you just need something that's going to give you that sweet fix.

Also said
“I mean, they are nut butters so they have a decent amount of calories, but if you're doing low carb, they make a lot of sense.”— Acknowledges the calorie content but positions them for low-carb diets.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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In overweight people, the sugar did not increase FGF-21... and it did not decrease blood flow to the region of the brain that would tell the person to not eat as much sugar.
Reveals a critical finding that explains why overweight individuals may not benefit from sugar's metabolic effects and may be prone to overconsumption.
For every 100 calories of protein that you consume, you're really only absorbing 70 to 80 actual calories from it because 20 to 30 of every 100 calories is used just in the sheer metabolism of it.
Provides a concrete, memorable statistic about protein's thermic effect, making a strong case for prioritizing protein.
We don't want to be chasing some molecular mechanism because there's many different ways to get that same molecular mechanism.
A cautionary statement against reductionist thinking, emphasizing that focusing on a single pathway (like FGF-21) can be misleading.
You're eating a little bit more but you're moving more and recovering more and building more. You're becoming stronger and more vibrant in the process.
Summarizes the 'eat more, move more' philosophy in a motivational and accessible way.
If you are not overweight, the occasional acute bolus of sugar could actually work.
A contrarian and potentially controversial statement that encapsulates the nuanced view on sugar.

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