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11 Carbs I’ve Started Eating That I Never Would’ve Eaten 10 Years Ago
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11 Carbs I’ve Started Eating That I Never Would’ve Eaten 10 Years Ago

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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DeLauer now treats corn tortillas as resistant starch by heating, cooling, and slowly reheating them, turning them into RS3 fiber that feeds the microbiome with minimal blood sugar impact.

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He endorses Manuka honey (brand Manukora, code 'dueer 20') for its antioxidant and antimicrobial benefits, taking 1–3 teaspoons before bed to improve sleep without a large insulin spike.

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He uses a carb-timing strategy: low-carb in the morning and lunch to keep insulin low for fat burning, then loads most of his daily carbs at dinner to replenish glycogen.

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He favors mildly unripe bananas and reheated potatoes because they balance resistant starch (which blunts sugar absorption) with palatable sweetness and texture.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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corn-tortilla-resistant-starch-method

WhatHeat corn tortillas, let them cool completely, then reheat slowly on low heat to convert and retain RS3 resistant starch.
WhenOn days when you want a carb source with minimal blood sugar impact and fiber-like benefits, such as higher-carb training days.
Dose1–2 tortillas as part of a meal; reheat slowly on low microwave power or stovetop.
For whomPeople who enjoy tortillas but want to minimize their glycemic impact; particularly those on lower-carb diets looking for a strategic inclusion.
WhyRS3 resistant starch resists digestion, acts like soluble fiber to feed gut bacteria, and blunts glucose rise.
CaveatsUse high-quality, non-GMO corn tortillas. Reheat slowly; high heat will destroy the retrograded structure. Not a daily staple but an occasional smart carb.

DeLauer frames this as a resistance-starch hack. The process exploits the natural retrogradation of starch: heating gelatinizes the starch granules, cooling realigns them into crystalline RS3 that resists digestive enzymes, and gentle reheating preserves this indigestibility. He emphasizes that you get 'huge maximal microbiome benefit' with 'minimal blood sugar impact.' The result is a tortilla that behaves like fiber, making it a clever way to include a traditionally forbidden food without the usual metabolic consequences. He repeats the same principle for potatoes later in the video, indicating this is a broader strategy for starchy carbs.

Mechanism

Retrograded starch (RS3) forms when cooked starch cools; amylose and amylopectin chains reassociate into tightly packed helices inaccessible to amylase enzymes. Slow, low-temperature reheating does not fully disrupt this crystalline structure, so the starch remains indigestible, reaching the colon where it ferments and produces short-chain fatty acids.

Personal experience

this is a great way for me on days where I'm like, I need to get some more carbs in to have carbs that are in kind of a fun way, quite frankly.

The trick is you have to heat them and cool them and then heat them again.

Also said
“a way to be able to have something like a tortilla with minimal, and I mean minimal blood sugar impact and huge maximal microbiome benefit.”— Quantifies the dual benefit.

potato-resistant-starch-batch-prep

WhatCook potatoes, cool in the fridge for 12–24 hours, then reheat slowly in the microwave at low power to create retrograded RS3 starch.
WhenBatch prep on Sunday; enjoy with dinner throughout the week.
DosePortion as desired; reheat slowly on low microwave power.
For whomAnyone who likes potatoes but wants to blunt their glycemic response; those following DeLauer's higher-carb dinner strategy.
WhyIdentical to tortilla method—cooling creates RS3 resistant starch that evades digestion, reducing net carb absorption while providing a satisfying starchy side.
CaveatsMust cool at least 12–24 hours; reheating must be gentle—no high heat, or the RS3 will revert to digestible starch. Use microwave on low power.

DeLauer contrasts this with his rare use of fresh-cooked potatoes, which he only eats right after an extra-hard workout for an intentional glucose spike. His standard approach is to batch-cook potatoes, refrigerate them, and then reheat gently. He claims nobody would notice the difference from a fresh baked potato. This allows him to eat potatoes freely without worrying about blood sugar excursions, aligning with his philosophy of enjoying carbs intelligently.

Mechanism

Same RS3 formation as corn tortillas: gelatinization upon cooking, retrogradation upon cooling, preserved indigestibility with low-temperature reheating.

Personal experience

Most of the time I am cooking a bunch of potatoes on Sunday and then I put them all in the fridge and let them cool and then I mildly heat them up. ... no one would ever know that I'm having a baked potato that's been reheated.

Heat a potato, let it cool for 12 or 24 hours. Slowly reheat it little bits at low power in the microwave.

Also said
“you got to heat them up slow. You can't heat them at a high temperature because when you reheat, you don't want to break that new structure of the retrograded starch.”— Specifies the critical temperature caveat.

mildly-unripe-banana-selection

WhatChoose bananas that are between green and yellow—slightly hard to peel and chalky—to get a mix of resistant starch (RS2) and sugars.
WhenAny time you want a banana with blunted glycemic impact.
DoseOne banana per serving; can be mashed with a little honey for further benefit.
For whomBanana lovers who want lower sugar spikes; those who find fully green bananas unpalatable.
WhyGreen bananas are almost pure RS2 (indigestible), fully yellow bananas are nearly pure fast sugar; the in-between stage delivers some resistant starch that cancels out part of the sugar absorption.
CaveatsShould be mildly unripe—'just a little bit hard to peel and might be a little chalky.' Fully green has too much indigestible starch for comfort; fully ripe loses the benefit. Not a huge effect but a 'win-win.'

DeLauer frames this as a trade-off: green banana flour is extremely indigestible (RS2), while a ripe banana is 'practically pure sugar.' He advocates the middle ground, where part of the starch is still resistant, reducing net glucose load while still tasting good. He suggests mashing it with honey, which might further slow absorption because honey's antioxidants and fructose change the glycemic response. This fits his broader theme of stacking tricks to enjoy carbs with less metabolic damage.

Mechanism

RS2 starch in unripe bananas is granular and resistant to amylase digestion. As bananas ripen, enzymes convert starch into glucose and fructose. By picking a half-ripe fruit, a portion of RS2 remains, decreasing the digestible carbohydrate load.

Personal experience

I'm not talking like a straight-up green banana. ... when it's just mildly green and mildly yellow, you get this trade-off effect.

If it's super green, it's a pure resistant starch. If it's super yellow, it's practically pure sugar. If it's halfway in between, you have some resistant starch benefit that cancels out some of the other detrimental effect.

Also said
“you could mash that sucker up and you can have a little bit of honey with it and you're kind of reducing the impact all around.”— Suggests a compound hack combining resistant starch and honey's benefits.

carb-timing-low-am-high-pm

WhatKeep carbs minimal at breakfast and lunch (higher fat/protein), then consume most daily carbs at dinner to maintain low insulin during active hours.
WhenDaily; breakfast and lunch low-carb, dinner high-carb with protein.
DoseNo specific gram targets; described as 'higher fat, lower carb' breakfast, 'moderate fat, low carb, high protein' lunch, and 'high protein, moderate carb' dinner.
For whomActive individuals who want to burn fat during the day and still consume carbohydrates; those who tolerate carbs at night.
WhyLow insulin during the day promotes fat oxidation while you're active; shifting carbs to evening replenishes glycogen without interfering with daytime fat burning.
CaveatsHe admits he doesn't care about timing as much as he used to, but this is his default pattern. Some people may experience sleep disruption from late carbs, though he finds it helps him.

This protocol directly contradicts common advice to avoid carbs at night. DeLauer argues that keeping insulin low during the day when he's moving and burning calories makes evolutionary sense—his body is more likely to tap into fat stores. Then, at dinner, he loads carbs to refill glycogen. He notes this is a flip-flop from popular recommendations but works for him. He has relaxed on strict timing, indicating that overall carb quality and total intake matter more, but the pattern remains his go-to.

Mechanism

Insulin is anti-lipolytic; low daytime insulin permits higher lipolysis and fat oxidation. Evening carb consumption may support serotonin and melatonin pathways (hence better sleep for him) and post-exercise glycogen resynthesis without competing with daytime fat oxidation.

Personal experience

I am a fan of keeping my carbs low in the morning, low at lunch, and then bringing them up in the evening. ... For me, that makes more sense. ... I have breakfast with higher fat, lower carb. Lunch is going to be moderate fat, low carb, high protein. Dinner is going to be high protein, moderate carb.

flip-flop from what a lot of people will tell you. Don't have carbs at night. Not good for your blood sugar. No, I'm a fan of keeping my carbs low during the day so that when I'm active, I'm keeping my insulin low and I'm more likely to burn fat.

Also said
“I don't care about carb timing that much anymore. I used to. It's one thing I've pivoted on, but for the most part, my carbs at night, all I care about is getting my glycogen stores up a little bit.”— Shows his current relaxed stance while still adhering to the general pattern.

manuka-honey-before-bed

WhatConsume 1–3 teaspoons of high-MGO Manuka honey 1–2 hours before bedtime to support sleep and obtain antioxidant/antimicrobial benefits.
WhenA couple hours before bed.
DoseOne to two, maybe three teaspoons (approx. 10–15 g carbs).
For whomIndividuals seeking a natural sleep aid and a functional carb source; those wary of refined sugar.
WhyThe antioxidants in Manuka honey may modulate insulin and inflammation; the small carb load can promote sleep onset by enhancing tryptophan entry into the brain, without the sharp glucose spike of refined sugar.
CaveatsMust be genuine, high-MGO Manuka honey (he uses MGO 850). Do not overconsume; 10–15 g carbs is sufficient. Effects are anecdotal.

DeLauer weaves this personal protocol into his broader defense of honey. He notes that he doesn't guzzle honey but uses it respectfully for its functional properties. The sleep benefit is something he's discovered through self-experimentation; he links it to the concept that a small, slow-digesting carbohydrate can aid relaxation. By choosing Manuka with high methylglyoxal, he aims for the strongest antimicrobial and antioxidant punch, which he believes also modulates metabolism favorably. This small pre-bed dose exemplifies his strategic carb inclusion.

Mechanism

Carbohydrate intake can increase insulin, which promotes uptake of competing amino acids into muscle, leaving tryptophan to cross the blood-brain barrier and convert to serotonin/melatonin. Simultaneously, Manuka honey's MGO and polyphenols may exert anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects that support nervous system calm.

Personal experience

I've also been finding that if I have a little bit a couple hours before bed, it helps me sleep. But I use Manuka honey because I want the deeper MGO content.

I use a brand called Manukora. Hands down the best manuka honey... And you only need one to two maybe three teaspoons of this stuff to get the benefit as far as antioxidants and MGO.

Also said
“This does not mean that I eat gobs and gobs of it. ... I'm not gonna guzzle honey. I am going to consume it in a respectful and conscientious manner.”— Reinforces the moderate dose and counters any perception of overconsumption.

golden-kiwi-with-skin-post-workout

WhatEat golden kiwis with the skin on, ideally around a workout, for vitamin C and soluble fiber while using the higher glucose content as fuel.
WhenDuring or immediately after a workout, or when you can handle a higher natural sugar spike.
Dose1–2 kiwis.
For whomActive people seeking a convenient, nutrient-packed fruit that can be eaten with skin for extra fiber.
WhyGolden kiwis are extremely rich in vitamin C, the skin provides soluble fiber to slow absorption, and their glucose-dominant carb profile makes them ideal for post-exercise glycogen replenishment.
CaveatsGolden kiwis are higher in glucose than fructose, so they can cause a relatively big blood sugar spike if eaten without exercise. Avoid combining with a lot of fat, as that might delay gastric emptying and prolong the spike. Eat in a controlled fashion.

DeLauer admits he hasn't done deep research on golden kiwis but recommends them based on practical experience: they taste great, can be eaten whole (skin on) for convenience and extra soluble fiber, and are a vitamin C powerhouse. He acknowledges their high glucose content and suggests using them strategically around training sessions to turn the potential spike into an anabolic advantage. He explicitly warns against combining with fatty meals, showing an understanding of how mixed meals affect glycemic response.

Mechanism

Glucose from the kiwi rapidly enters the bloodstream after exercise, when muscle insulin sensitivity is high, aiding glycogen resynthesis. Soluble fiber from the skin slows gastric emptying slightly, but the fruit's sugar composition (mostly glucose) means it can still raise blood sugar substantially if consumed without metabolic demand.

Personal experience

I don't know if these things I haven't done the research on them to be quite frank. I just know as far as a vitamin C rich food, they are amazing. But you can also eat them with the skin, which for convenience is great.

So, you do want to eat them in a controlled fashion. Maybe not have them combined with a bunch of fats. Just maybe eat them while you're working out or maybe eat them right after a workout.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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retrograded-corn-tortillas

Corn tortillas, when heated, cooled, and reheated slowly, become an RS3 resistant starch, effectively acting as a fiber that supports the microbiome.

Why this matters: He previously avoided corn products on a low-carb diet; now he leverages food processing to turn a high-carb staple into a gut-friendly, low-glycemic food.

Background

Historically, DeLauer avoided grains and simple starches, sticking to very low-carb intake. This hack allows inclusion of a traditionally off-limits food without the expected blood sugar spike.

DeLauer explains that retrograded resistant starch (RS3) forms when a starch is heated, causing its molecular structure to expand, then cooled, which reorganizes it into an indigestible crystalline form. The critical nuance is that this indigestibility can survive reheating if done slowly and at low temperature. By applying this to corn tortillas—a food most low-carbers would never touch—he creates a carbohydrate that behaves more like soluble fiber, feeding gut bacteria and blunting glucose response. He emphasizes the importance of high-quality, non-GMO corn tortillas and warns against high-temperature reheating, which would destroy the resistant starch structure. This is not a staple but a strategic "fun way" to get carbs on higher-carb days.

Personal experience

He says, 'this is a great way for me on days where I'm like, I need to get some more carbs in to have carbs that are in kind of a fun way, quite frankly.'

I found out that corn tortillas when you heat them and cool them and then reheat them are a retrograded RS3 starch.

Also said
“The trick is you have to heat them and cool them and then heat them again.”— States the core protocol in simple terms.

honey-as-functional-carb

Manuka honey is not metabolically equivalent to table sugar; its antioxidant and antimicrobial profile can positively affect visceral fat and insulin resistance, justifying moderate use.

Why this matters: Contradicts the blanket demonization of all sugars; he explicitly rejects the idea that honey is just 'sugar' and cites evidence for benefits on liver function and insulin sensitivity.

Background

DeLauer has been a fan of honey for years but is now more vocal about its distinction from refined sugar, recently posting videos on the topic. The prevailing low-carb dogma treats all sugars as harmful, but he argues that the polyphenol and MGO content of high-quality honey changes its metabolic fate.

He differentiates full-spectrum honey from refined table sugar by pointing to its antioxidants, antimicrobial compounds (especially methylglyoxal in Manuka), and different digestive pathway. He references evidence that honey can favorably impact visceral fat, insulin resistance, and even liver function due to its potent antioxidant effects. However, he is careful to stress moderation: he consumes only 10–15 grams of carbs from honey, not 'gobs.' He specifically recommends Manuka honey (brand Manukora) because of its high MGO content, third-party testing, and superior taste. He also notes personal use for sleep—1–3 teaspoons a couple hours before bed—leveraging a gentle carb load without a dramatic glucose spike. This represents a shift from his earlier, more rigid low-carb phase where any sugar was feared.

Personal experience

I've also been finding that if I have a little bit a couple hours before bed, it helps me sleep. But I use Manuka honey because I want the deeper MGO content.

There is a big difference between refined table sugar and full-spectrum honey that has antioxidant benefits, has antimicrobial benefits, and digests differently.

Also said
“There's even evidence to suggest that it can impact in a positive way visceral fat and impact insulin resistance and even liver function to a certain degree because the potent antioxidant effects of honey.”— Presents a specific, counterintuitive claim about fat and liver benefits.
“I'm not gonna guzzle honey. I am going to consume it in a respectful and conscientious manner.”— Preempts criticism of promoting a sugar as a health food; emphasizes controlled dose.

carb-phobia-to-strategic-incorporation

DeLauer has transitioned from fearing carbs when overweight to strategically using them for performance and satisfaction, viewing carbs as delivery vehicles for antioxidants, fiber, and resistant starch.

Why this matters: Marks a personal evolution and a nuanced public stance; he frames carbs not as an enemy but as a tool to be optimized through food selection and preparation techniques.

Background

When he was overweight, he was very concerned about carbs and adhered to a strict low-carb diet. As his health and training improved, his perspective broadened. Now he no longer feels the need to avoid carbs entirely but instead asks, 'how can I get a lot of carbs without actually having to eat a bunch of carbs?'

This shift underpins the entire video. He recalls that during his low-carb days, when he finally ate carbs, it was 'horacious' and he felt needy for them. Now, with better metabolic health and high activity, he focuses on carb quality and preparation tricks that reduce glycemic load while still providing the pleasure of eating carb-rich foods. He mentions tortillas, potatoes, bananas, and even honey as examples where processing (cooling, reheating, selecting ripeness) alters the physiological impact. He also notes that he no longer obsesses over carb timing as he once did, though he still mostly eats carbs at night for glycogen replenishment. This is a maturation from restriction toward intelligent inclusion.

Personal experience

When I was doing low carb all the time, when I wanted to have carbs, it was horacious. I needed those carbs. Now the lens in which I view carbs is almost as though how can I get a lot of carbs without actually having to eat a bunch of carbs?

I don't need to like keep away from carbs. ... the lens in which I view carbs is almost as though how can I get a lot of carbs without actually having to eat a bunch of carbs?

Also said
“I learn things, but then I learn new things. So, I'm always evolving.”— Frames his intellectual flexibility as a core value.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Three Wishes Cereal (unflavored)

Product

A chickpea-flour-based cereal that provides a crunchy, cereal-like experience without refined grains or sugar. DeLauer adds A2 milk and monk fruit sweetener to replicate a Cheerios-like indulgence.

He calls this 'probably my one processed food vice.' He used to promote Magic Spoon but stopped when they changed their fatty acid profile away from avocado oil. Three Wishes offers an unflavored version free of added sugar, which he pairs with Pioneer Pastures A2 milk and Lacanto monk fruit drops. He advises against the flavored versions because they contain refined sugar. Although he generally shuns processed foods, he admits a lifelong love of cereal and sees this as a clean compromise. He gets the 'cereal crunch' without negative metabolic effects.

vs alternatives

He abandoned Magic Spoon due to ingredient changes; unflavored Three Wishes avoids added sugar unlike its own flavored varieties and conventional breakfast cereals.

Personal experience

I'm a fan of Three Wishes cereal. I have no affiliation with them. ... I'll have that with a little bit of like my Pioneer Pastures milk ... And it tastes just like a really good tastes like Cheerios but without the negative effects.

Three Wishes is like a nice carb source. Occasionally, I'll treat myself to like the strawberry or the fruity flavor, but it does have added sugar. I don't really want the refined sugar. So, just go for the unflavored.

Also said
“They have an unflavored version which is just it's chickpea flour. It's really basic, but it's still like you get that cereal crunch.”— Describes the product's simplicity.
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Lacanto Monk Fruit Sweetener (liquid)

Product

He adds a couple squirts to his cereal to achieve sweetness without sugar, mimicking the taste of sweetened cereal.

Personal experience

then I might put a couple squirts of like monk fruit in there from Lacanto.

A couple squirts ... and it tastes just like a really good tastes like Cheerios but without the negative effects.

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Kirkland Wild Frozen Blueberries

Product

Frozen wild blueberries from Costco (Kirkland brand, also Wegman's) have higher anthocyanin content and retain antioxidants because they are flash-frozen immediately after harvest.

Personal experience

The wild blueberries, like the little frozen ones that you can get at Costco, actually have more anthocyanin in them. So, get the little like Wegman's or the Kirkland wild blueberries. They're frozen pretty much immediately. So, it retains the antioxidant profile and they're not oxidized.

The wild blueberries, like the little frozen ones that you can get at Costco, actually have more anthocyanin in them.

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Pioneer Pastures A2 Milk

Product

He uses this A2 milk as a high-protein, low-sugar milk for his cereal.

Personal experience

my Pioneer Pastures milk which is like A2 milk. So, high protein, low sugar milk.

my Pioneer Pastures milk which is like A2 milk.

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Raspberries for amylase inhibition

Practice

Raspberries contain natural amylase inhibitors that slow their own digestion, reducing net carb absorption. He recommends them as a low-glycemic, self-moderating fruit.

DeLauer highlights that raspberries are already low-carb and low-glycemic, but the built-in amylase inhibitor makes them even more effective by resisting the enzymatic breakdown of starches within the fruit. He estimates that out of 10 grams of carbs, you might only absorb 6–7 grams due to this inhibition. This is analogous to a natural resistant-starch effect and makes raspberries one of the most metabolically benign fruits he eats.

vs alternatives

He contrasts this with other fruits that lack such self-regulating compounds, effectively making raspberries a superior choice for glucose control.

because of that amalayise inhibitor, they have a built-in component that actually slows down their own digestion and resists the digestion, the mechanical digestive breakdown of them itself.

Also said
“even though you might have hypothetically, let's say 10 grams of carbs of raspberries, you might actually only absorb six or seven because of the amalayise inhibitor.”— Quantifies the practical impact on carb absorption.
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Manukora Manuka Honey

Product Sponsored · disclosed

DeLauer recommends this brand for its high methylglyoxal (MGO) content, verified third-party testing, and unparalleled taste. He uses 1–3 teaspoons before bed and prefers it for any functional use of honey beyond a simple sweetener.

DisclosureSponsor link in description with code 'dueer 20' for a free starter kit (MGO 850 honey, travel stick packs, and wooden spoon).

He positions Manukora as 'hands down the best manuka honey' and 'the best tasting honey I have ever had in my life.' Sourced from the deep forests of New Zealand, it is batch-tested for MGO purity. He contrasts it with generic honey, emphasizing that its potent antibacterial and antioxidant properties justify the cost and make it a supplement rather than just a sugar. He uses the MGO 850 strength for maximum benefit. The sponsorship is clearly disclosed, and he provides a specific code, which viewers can use to get a starter kit. He frames this as the only honey he trusts for the cognizant, low-dose consumption he advocates.

vs alternatives

He distinguishes it from regular honey, which may lack high MGO levels, and from refined table sugar, which has no antioxidants or antimicrobials.

Personal experience

It is the best tasting honey. The best tasting honey I have ever had in my life. ... I'm telling you, if you're using honey for things other than just a carb source, you have to elevate it to manukora.

if you're using honey for things other than just a carb source, you have to elevate it to manukora.

Also said
“This is harvested in the deep forest of New Zealand where Manuka honey is supposed to really come from. They third party test all their harvests. So, they test the MGO cont to make sure it is what they say it is.”— Details the quality assurance and sourcing.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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I'm always evolving. So, let's go ahead and jump right into the ones that I am eating.
Capsule of his intellectual humility and willingness to change his mind publicly.
I found out that corn tortillas when you heat them and cool them and then reheat them are a retrograded RS3 starch.
Succinctly states the counterintuitive hack that transforms a taboo food into a gut-friendly carb.
There is a big difference between refined table sugar and full-spectrum honey that has antioxidant benefits, has antimicrobial benefits, and digests differently.
Core attack on the 'all sugar is equal' dogma; a defining stance of his current nutrition philosophy.
I'm not gonna guzzle honey. I am going to consume it in a respectful and conscientious manner.
Preempts criticism and models moderate, intentional consumption of a potentially demonized food.
flip-flop from what a lot of people will tell you. Don't have carbs at night. Not good for your blood sugar. No, I'm a fan of keeping my carbs low during the day so that when I'm active, I'm keeping my insulin low and I'm more likely to burn fat.
Explicitly contradicts mainstream low-carb advice with a personal physiological rationale.
When I was doing low carb all the time, when I wanted to have carbs, it was horacious. I needed those carbs. Now the lens in which I view carbs is almost as though how can I get a lot of carbs without actually having to eat a bunch of carbs?
Candid reflection on his past restrictive mindset and his evolved, strategic approach.

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