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Shamanism: a spiritual trap or the key to awakening? Kasia Nast
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Shamanism: a spiritual trap or the key to awakening? Kasia Nast

Cyprian Majcher
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Kasia Nast, a former architect and set designer and now a tantra teacher, describes her spiritual awakening that prompted her to abandon her career, sell all her possessions, and move to Bali, where she built a strong sense of self-worth and now teaches women intimacy, self-love, and conscious relationships.

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She promotes a tantric approach to intimacy that emphasizes presence, communication, and full-body orgasm instead of goal-oriented sex, using a detailed RBDSM protocol (Relationship, Boundaries, Desires, STIs, Meaning, Aftercare) before every encounter.

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Despite intensive past use of psychedelics such as ayahuasca and bufo, she now relies solely on internal practices (breath, sound, movement), claiming that tantra allows one to achieve the same cosmic states without external substances.

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She emphasizes that true spirituality is not external attributes or meditation, but the way we respond to daily triggers – choosing compassion instead of reaction – and that the foundation of happiness is self-love, which attracts harmonious relationships.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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RBDSM Intimacy Checklist

WhatBefore every intimate encounter, sit with your partner and discuss: Relationship (are you in a relationship, will someone get hurt?), Boundaries (what are your boundaries, e.g., no unprotected sex), Desires (what are your desires, without shame), STIs (when were you last tested?), Meaning (is this a one-night stand or the beginning of a relationship?), Aftercare (what kind of aftercare do you need?).
WhenBefore every intimate meeting, preferably in a calm atmosphere.
DoseOne conversation, can be repeated.
For whomAnyone entering sexual intimacy, especially with a new partner.
WhyIt ensures that both parties are conscious adults who know their needs and boundaries, preventing misunderstandings and trauma.
CaveatsIt requires courage to ask uncomfortable questions; it can reveal incompatibilities early.

She explains that this protocol comes from tantra and serves to build safety and clarity. She notes that many people have sex without knowing if the other person is in a relationship or has been tested. She says she will not enter intimacy without going through RBDSM. She emphasizes that it's not about killing spontaneity, but about building trust. She also mentions that aftercare is crucial, and shares a story when a partner asked for a check-in the next day, which deepened their bond.

Mechanism

By explicitly discussing these topics, assumptions and potential sources of harm are removed, which aligns with tantric principles of conscious connection.

Personal experience

She uses this protocol herself and teaches it. She tells of a partner who, after she stopped him during painful sex, thanked her and said that now he always asks the woman if it is still pleasurable.

RBDSM... each letter is assigned to a specific situation, so R is for example relationship. So we actually sit opposite the other person and ask ourselves, are you in a relationship or is there someone who will be hurt by this interaction.

Also said
“D is for desires, meaning what desires I have, and we can also then talk about our desires without such shame.”— Emphasizes the desires component.
“S, meaning STI, which is all diseases that are sexually transmitted, because also very often... how often do we have a chance to ask the other person when was the last time you got tested.”— Accents the conversation about sexually transmitted diseases.

Tantric Love-Making Ritual

WhatCreate a sacred space outside the bedroom with flowers, incense, calm music. Brew tea. Sit opposite each other, clothed, and share your fears, needs, desires. Maintain eye contact, breathe together. Proceed slowly, with periodic check-ins ('Is this still pleasurable?'). Focus on full-body sensations, not the goal of orgasm. Incorporate sound and movement.
WhenWhen you want a deep, connected intimate experience, not a quick encounter.
DoseCan last 4 hours or longer; no time limit.
For whomCouples or partners seeking deeper intimacy, especially those wanting to go beyond conventional sex.
WhyShifts intimacy from performance-oriented, goal-driven sex to a spiritual, connecting experience that can lead to full-body orgasm and deeper bonding.
CaveatsRequires time, patience, and willingness to be vulnerable. Can be difficult for people uncomfortable with eye contact or verbalizing desires.

She contrasts this with 'having sex,' which she defines as quick, genital-focused, and learned from porn. She says this ritual begins long before the bedroom and is about connecting souls. She emphasizes that a woman needs 20–40 minutes of stimulation to be ready, and men should not assume readiness. She describes how she sometimes blindfolds her partner and reads a story to engage other senses. She says that through this practice she experiences full-body orgasms, next to which clitoral orgasm seems trivial.

Mechanism

By removing the goal of orgasm and focusing on presence, breath, and sound, the nervous system can relax, allowing energy to flow and leading to expanded states of pleasure. Check-ins ensure safety and consent, which deepens trust.

Personal experience

She shares that she used to have sex in a performative and painful way, but now she only engages in this ritual. She tells a specific experience when she stopped a partner during sex from behind due to pain, and he later said that moment changed his entire approach to intimacy.

We start by sitting opposite each other. We are not in the bed space at all. We sit opposite each other, I am on a mattress, where there are flowers, where there is calm music, where incense is burning. I brew tea that is 20 years old and simply in great mindfulness we talk about what fears we have, what needs we have, what desires we have.

Also said
“The moment you start experiencing full-body orgasm, suddenly that orgasm, whether clitoral or ejaculation in men, is not the goal at all. Because it suddenly turns out that it is 7 seconds of pleasure in the context of being able to have two hours of just overflowing waves of ecstasy through your body.”— Explains the benefit of full-body orgasm.

New Chapter Morning Mindset

WhatUpon waking, treat each day like a new chapter that you write yourself. If something difficult happened the previous day, treat it as a lesson learned, close that chapter, and open a new one with joy.
WhenEvery morning upon waking.
DoseA moment of conscious intention.
For whomAnyone, especially people prone to rumination.
WhyPrevents carrying over negative emotions and sets a positive, empowered tone for the whole day.
CaveatsRequires practice to truly let go of yesterday's events.

She says she wakes up every day in a great mood, as if opening a new chapter. She consciously closes old chapters, seeing difficult events as lessons. She notes that her ex-partner observed that she never wakes up in a bad mood. This practice is part of her overall philosophy of choosing how to perceive situations.

Personal experience

She shares that she always wakes up happy, and even if something spoils her mood during the day, the next morning she resets.

I wake up in the morning, I am in a great mood, because it is another day. It is as if I were opening another chapter that I am writing myself.

Also said
“If something difficult happened the day before, I can look at that difficult thing, or I can look at it as a lesson and say: 'Okay, fine, I learned that lesson, there is a new chapter, I am opening a new chapter in this book.'”— Details of the practice.

Compassionate Response to Triggers

WhatWhen someone triggers you (e.g., yells at you, sends hate), instead of reacting with anger, stop and try to see the pain behind their behavior. Respond with understanding, not aggression. This dissolves conflict and shows you areas within yourself that need healing.
WhenIn any conflict or triggering situation.
DoseAs needed, moment to moment.
For whomAnyone on a spiritual path, especially people facing criticism or conflicts.
WhyReactive anger feeds negativity; compassion disarms it and shows where you still need inner work. It is a measure of spiritual growth.
CaveatsDoes not mean tolerating violence; you can still set boundaries. Requires emotional regulation.

She defines spirituality as the way you respond to the world. She gives examples: a woman yelling at her in a club queue – she responded with empathy, and the woman cried in her arms. She says she is grateful for triggers because they show what still needs healing. She also applies this to online hate: she blocks, but if she enters into dialogue, she tries to hear the other person's pain.

Mechanism

By not responding with aggression, you break the cycle of escalation. Recognizing the other person's pain activates compassion, which can de-escalate and even heal both sides.

Personal experience

She tells the story from the club and the parable of the snake and the fire: a man saves a snake from fire, the snake bites him, but he saves it again, because his nature is to save, not to change under the influence of the snake's nature. She used this analogy in a conversation with Krzysztof Stanowski after he made a mocking video about her.

My nature will not change depending on who is on the other side.

Also said
“If triggers appear, meaning something hooks me in some situation or in the other person, I have gratitude for those moments. Why? Because it happens so rarely to me now... the moment something throws me off, it means this is the part that still needs nurturing.”— Explains her gratitude for triggers.

Curate Your Digital Environment

WhatBlock or remove social media accounts that leave negative or vulgar comments. Do not consume news or media that feed negativity (e.g., gossip portals, TV news channels). Shape your reality by what you allow into your field.
WhenOn an ongoing basis, as daily digital hygiene.
DoseEvery time you encounter negativity online.
For whomAnyone, especially public figures or those sensitive to online hate.
WhyYour external world reflects your internal state; by not feeding on negativity, you maintain a high vibration and attract more positivity.
CaveatsDoes not mean ignoring real problems, but protecting mental space.

She says she hasn't watched TV for 20 years, doesn't read gossip portals, and blocks anyone who writes 'you stupid whore.' She notes that her private messages on Instagram are overwhelmingly positive because she takes care of her field. She believes that what you focus on grows, so she focuses on love and inspiration.

Personal experience

She shares that she used to receive hate, but now rarely experiences it because she blocked the sources. She says she doesn't read Pudelek or the news, and there are no negative comments under her posts because she removes/blocks them.

I haven't watched television for 20 years, because it is a world I don't want to have in my field.

Also said
“So what do I do? I block. And in this way, I shape my reality.”— Direct action.

Ask 'How Can I Touch You?'

WhatInstead of assuming you know how your partner likes to be touched, ask directly: 'How can I touch you?'. This also applies to long-term partners, because preferences change.
WhenDuring intimate moments or as a regular check-in.
DoseAs often as needed.
For whomCouples, especially in long-term relationships where they have fallen into the habit of assumption.
WhyPeople often touch their partner the way they themselves like to be touched, which may not suit the other person. Asking prevents discomfort and increases pleasure.
CaveatsRequires vulnerability and openness to hearing that your usual touch may not be preferred.

She learned this from her tantra teacher. She says many couples stop having sex because they don't communicate about touch. She emphasizes that this simple question can transform intimacy.

Mechanism

Direct communication eliminates guesswork and ensures that both parties feel safe and experience pleasure, which deepens the bond.

Personal experience

She uses this in her own relationships and teaches it in workshops.

Asking the other person, how can I touch you, because we assume that because we have been together for a long time, we know how we want to be touched, and then it turns out that the partner touches us the way they like to be touched, which very often does not match how I like to be touched.

Path to Full-Body Orgasm

WhatPractice breath, sound, and movement during intimacy to unlock full-body orgasm. Let go of the goal of clitoral orgasm or ejaculation. Allow yourself to make sounds, breathe deeply, and move energy through the body.
WhenDuring intimate encounters, preferably in a tantric setting.
DoseContinuous practice; may take time to learn.
For whomAnyone interested in expanding sexual experiences, especially those who feel limited by conventional orgasm.
WhyFull-body orgasm is an extended state of ecstasy (hours) compared to a short genital orgasm (seconds). It is available to both women and men if they release blockages related to sound and breath.
CaveatsRequires overcoming inhibitions about making sounds and breathing deeply. For men, it may mean learning to separate orgasm from ejaculation.

She explains that many people block sound due to early experiences of needing to be quiet during sex. She says that in tantra, breath, sound, and movement are the three pillars. By opening them, you unlock full-body orgasm. She led a workshop for 70 women, dressed in white, experiencing full-body orgasm in a sacred, non-sexualized way. She says for men it is possible if they can let go of mind control and connect with breath and sound, but it requires deeper work on early conditioning (e.g., being silenced).

Mechanism

Sound and breath release tension and allow energy to flow through the chakras. Focusing on full-body sensations instead of genital stimulation rewires the nervous system for a global experience of pleasure.

Personal experience

She describes her own experiences of full-body orgasm lasting hours and how she now prefers it to clitoral orgasm. She shares that she taught this to a male partner who initially had difficulties but later succeeded.

The moment you start experiencing full-body orgasm, suddenly that orgasm, whether clitoral or ejaculation in men, is not the goal at all.

Also said
“Only when you open the individual doors are you able to reach that holy grail, which is full-body orgasm.”— Metaphor for the process.

100% Surrender to the Universe

WhatWhen facing a big decision (e.g., moving abroad), instead of holding onto a safety net, surrender 100% – let go of that 1% you are still controlling. Trust that whatever comes will catch you.
WhenAt major life crossroads.
DoseA one-time decision, but can be applied repeatedly.
For whomPeople feeling stuck or called to take a leap.
WhyPartial surrender keeps you in fear; full surrender opens you to unexpected possibilities.
CaveatsNot reckless abandonment; she had a job offer in Bali, so it was a calculated risk.

She describes how at age 39 she got a 5-month job offer in Bali. She could have stayed in her safe, successful life as an architect, but inside she was suffering. She chose to leave everything, sell her possessions, and go with two suitcases, trusting the universe. The pandemic broke out and she stayed, undergoing a deep transformation. She says that if you surrender 99%, you are still holding onto 1% safety, and that is not true surrender.

Personal experience

She shares the story of moving to Bali, the fear, and how it led to becoming a tantra teacher.

It doesn't matter if I surrender in life 1% or 99%. Because if I surrender 99%, I am still holding onto that 1% that is safe. And I wanted to leave everything and truly show 100% trust.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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from-psychedelics-to-internal-tantra-medicine

środkowa część rozmowy o psychodelikach

Kasia stopped using psychedelics after discovering that tantric practices (breath, sound, movement) give access to the same states of consciousness, and she treats psychedelics as a shortcut she no longer needs.

Why this matters: She clearly states that her tantra teacher said you cannot combine these two paths, because in shamanism the medicine is outside, and in tantra – inside. Currently, she doesn't even reach for rapé or alcohol.

Background

She previously spent a lot of time with tribes in Colombia, Costa Rica, and Peru, drinking ayahuasca and using bufo, which she describes as a ninth-dimensional experience. During ceremonies, she felt she was dying and being reborn every day.

She explains that although psychedelics accelerated her path, she now believes that the same states can be reached through meditation, breathwork, and nature. She cites a conversation with tantra teacher Mananda Sarita, who stated that shamanism relies on external medicine, while tantra uses internal medicine – breath, sound, and movement. Kasia says she now experiences cosmic states exclusively through intimacy, which was previously only possible after substances. She emphasizes that if she ever feels a calling to sit with medicine again, she will do it, but now she has no such need. She notes that people often suspect her of being under the influence of drugs when they see her joy for life, while she is completely sober.

Personal experience

She describes her first ayahuasca ceremonies as dark and intense – she felt eaten by worms and died every day. Later she switched to Colombian yagé, which was more colorful and celebratory. She describes bufo as the deepest, indescribable state. Now she says: 'my medicine is myself.'

In shamanism, the medicine is outside you, meaning it is the psychedelic you need to reach a certain place within yourself. Whereas tantra is where that medicine is inside you, meaning breath, sound, and movement.

Also said
“I have such incredible states of consciousness. I touch such places and even, you know, through intimacy with another person... I am able to go to such cosmic spaces only and exclusively through intimacy with another person, which previously I was able to touch only and exclusively through psychedelics.”— Shows that she now achieves psychedelic states exclusively through intimacy.
“Now my medicine is myself for myself.”— Concise summary of her transformation.

making-love-vs-having-sex-ritual

część o intymności

Kasia distinguishes 'having sex' (goal-oriented, genital-focused, quick) from 'making love' (a 4-hour ritual with tea, eye-gazing, sharing fears and desires, goalless, with full-body orgasm).

Why this matters: She provides a detailed protocol for initiating intimacy that radically departs from mainstream sexual scripts.

Background

She grew up learning about sex from pornography, which she considers fake. Now she teaches that intimacy should be sacred and begin long before the bedroom.

She describes her current practice: she creates a space in the living room with flowers, incense, calm music. She brews 20-year-old tea. They sit opposite each other, clothed, and talk about their fears, needs, desires. They breathe together, maintain eye contact. They do periodic check-ins on whether it is still pleasurable. She emphasizes that a woman needs 20–40 minutes of stimulation to be ready, and she will not allow penetration until her body is ready. Sometimes she blindfolds her partner and reads him a story, engaging other senses. She says this approach leads to full-body orgasms lasting hours, next to which clitoral orgasm seems like 7 seconds of pleasure.

Personal experience

She tells how she once stopped a partner during sex from behind because she felt pain, and he later said that moment changed his entire approach to intimacy – now he always asks the woman if it is still pleasurable.

For me, intimacy now... it is simply a four-hour experience where there is no goal, where there are no expectations.

Also said
“Intimacy is that we are able to sit with each other, look into each other's eyes... I brew tea that is 20 years old and simply in great mindfulness we talk about what fears we have, what needs we have, what desires we have.”— Details of the ritual.
“I don't have sex... the way I enter intimate space with another person is not sex.”— Her fundamental redefinition.

from-external-spiritual-symbols-to-inner-queen-energy

pod koniec rozmowy

Kasia admits that she once needed external spiritual attributes (feathers, crystals, tattoos, extravagant clothes) to build the muscle of 'I don't care what others think,' but now she has simplified her style to linen and kimonos, entering 'queen energy' where she no longer needs to prove anything.

Why this matters: An open admission that the earlier extravagance was a necessary stage in breaking social pressure, but now she has moved to inner simplicity.

Background

She says people on the streets are mostly gray, and she celebrates anyone who dresses colorfully as an act of courage. She herself went through a phase of 'a lot and dense.'

She explains that she needed that period to build the 'I don't give a fuck' muscle. Now, after deep inner work, she doesn't need external validation. She compares it to transitioning from goddess energy to queen energy: a queen doesn't need to prove anything. She wears simple, natural fabrics without patterns. She says this reflects her inner simplification.

Personal experience

She describes how she used to wear a lot of feathers and jewelry, and now looks back on it as a necessary step. She says she now feels comfortable in simplicity.

I had to go through that period when everything was on the outside, when there was so much of it and so dense. Because I needed to build that muscle called I don't give a fuck what people think about me.

Also said
“Now looking back, I had to go through that period... Now I am simplifying everything. And I can compare it to something like, I used to be more in goddess energy, and now I am entering my queen energy, and that means that I no longer need to prove anything to anyone on the outside.”— Explains the transformation.

conscious-choice-not-to-have-children

środkowa część rozmowy o macierzyństwie

Kasia consciously decided not to be a mother, even though she loves children, because she feels her mission is to be a mother to the many women she works with, and biological motherhood would consume her completely.

Why this matters: Challenges the social narrative that a woman must be a mother to be complete, and shares her personal clarity.

Background

She participated in a 'Childless Mothers' workshop, where she heard stories of women who couldn't have children due to tragedy, and realized that her reason is simply that it is not her mission.

She explains that she is a 'devotion' person – if she had a child, all her energy would go into it, she would stop being a woman and become solely a mother. She couldn't then serve the thousands of women she helps. She also opposes the belief that a woman without a husband and child is not a real woman. She says she has strong maternal energy but no physical need to be a mother. She made the decision consciously around age 39 and feels no discomfort about it.

Personal experience

She tells how at the workshop she listened to women who had miscarried 13 times, been raped, etc., and realized that her 'no' stems from choice, not trauma. Her ex-partner said he had never met a woman giving so much warmth and nurturing energy, which confirms her maternal nature without biological children.

I know that if my life were designed differently, where I designed it in such a way to be a mother, all my energy would go into the child. I would stop being a woman, I would become only and exclusively a mother.

Also said
“A woman who decides not to be a mother, not to be a wife, is still a complete woman, is a fully valuable woman.”— Her stance on social pressure.

aesthetic-medicine-from-self-love-not-lack

pod koniec rozmowy

Kasia openly uses aesthetic medicine, but now from a place of self-love, not to fix something she doesn't accept, and she talks about it to break the taboo of women lying to each other about treatments.

Why this matters: Reconciles spiritual development with cosmetic treatments, arguing that the 'why' behind the action is key.

Background

She used to use aesthetic medicine because she didn't accept herself. After a period of giving it up, a friend asked why she cares for her soul but allows her skin to age, which prompted her to reflect.

She says that if she gets a treatment now, it is not from a lack of self-love, but because she wants to – just as she may dye her hair or not. She criticizes the culture where women lie about having had treatments, considering it another taboo to break. She emphasizes that being on a spiritual path doesn't mean you have to grow out your leg hair and have totally long gray hair – it's about conscious choice. She says she lives in Bali, where the sun dries the skin, so she uses moisturizing treatments and that's okay.

Personal experience

She shares that she used to get treatments to be more pleasing to others, and now she does it for herself. She talks about it openly on social media.

If I am going to do something, use some treatments, it will not be from a place of lack of self-love. It will not be from a place that I need to fix something because I don't love something about myself.

Also said
“The fact that I am a person on a spiritual development path does not mean that I have to grow out my leg hair and just have totally long gray hair. That is my decision.”— Counters the stereotype of spiritual people rejecting beauty standards.

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Shibari for Healing (Third Type)

Practice

She practices a form of Shibari (Japanese rope bondage) that is not a fetish or aesthetic, but a therapy aimed at releasing deep emotional blockages and learning to surrender control.

She explains that as women, they have a huge problem with surrendering and obsessively try to control everything. This Shibari, where she is the person being tied, but she directs the experience, helped her heal parts of herself and learn to trust. She says it is deep, beautiful work that cannot be reduced to a quick explanation.

Personal experience

She says she healed a lot through this practice, learning to trust in situations where she previously couldn't.

I practiced the art of Shibari, which heals very deep wounds, meaning it is that third form, meaning it is not fetishistic, but it is about releasing various kinds of blockages from your body that have formed.

Find Shibari

Creating a Sacred Space for Intimacy

Practice

Use flowers, incense, calm music, and a designated space (not the bedroom) to set the tone for tantric intimacy.

She describes setting up a mattress in the living room with these elements. It helps shift the energy from mundane to sacred.

Personal experience

She does this regularly.

I build just such a space in the middle of the living room.

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Kasia Nast's Tantra Workshops and Courses

Service Sponsored · disclosed

She offers workshops for women on intimacy, self-love, relationships, and trauma healing. She also conducts individual sessions with men.

DisclosureShe is the creator and leader of these workshops.

She describes leading workshops for 70 women on full-body orgasm and working with couples on communication. She mentions her course on building harmony in a relationship, created with her ex-fiancé. She emphasizes that she teaches based on her own experience, not as a guru.

Personal experience

She shares stories of women saying she saved their lives, and that her work is her dharma.

When I work with women in workshops, as they go through a process with me and do work on themselves, I very often get this comment: 'My family relationships are starting to change.'

Also said
“I tell using my own example how I made a certain change. That my life looks one way or another, and what you do with this knowledge is yours.”— Her teaching philosophy.
Find Kasia

Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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You cannot change the person you are looking at, but you can change the way you look at that person.
Central theme of her philosophy – changing perception instead of trying to change others.
In shamanism, the medicine is outside you... Whereas tantra is where that medicine is inside you, meaning breath, sound, and movement.
Clear distinction between the external and internal spiritual path.
I don't have sex... the way I enter intimate space with another person is not sex.
Redefines sex, distinguishing it from tantric 'making love.'
My nature will not change depending on who is on the other side.
Her response to hate, using the story of the snake and the fire – unchanging nature despite attacks.
If something doesn't give me peace in my life, it means it is not for me.
Her mantra regarding relationships – true love brings peace, not adrenaline.
A woman who decides not to be a mother, not to be a wife, is still a complete woman, is a fully valuable woman.
Challenges social norms regarding femininity and motherhood.
The fact that I am a person on a spiritual development path does not mean that I have to grow out my leg hair and just have totally long gray hair.
Breaks the stereotype that spirituality requires rejecting care for appearance.
The moment you start experiencing full-body orgasm, suddenly that orgasm, whether clitoral or ejaculation in men, is not the goal at all.
Powerful reframing of sexual pleasure – from a goal to a lasting state of ecstasy.

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