NAD is crucial for converting fuel to energy, building cellular components, and repairing damage. Its levels decline with age and are impacted by inflammation, obesity, and sleep disruption.
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Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) is a proven NAD precursor that has shown anti-inflammatory benefits in human trials and improved exercise recovery, but it is not a weight-loss drug on its own.
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NR is generally safe and effective at doses of 500-1000mg/day. Oral NAD and NMN supplements are less effective as they break down into NR before cellular uptake.
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The gut microbiome plays a role in NR conversion, and NR supplementation has shown promising results in animal studies for maternal health and offspring development, and in human trials for peripheral artery disease and fatty liver.
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NR Supplementation for Anti-Inflammation
WhatSupplementing with Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) to reduce systemic inflammation.
DoseAround 1 gram per day (e.g., two True Niagen pills).
For whomIndividuals with chronic inflammatory conditions (e.g., COPD, 'inflammaging'), or those looking to broadly support healthy aging by reducing inflammation.
WhyNR has been shown in multiple human randomized controlled trials to significantly lower inflammatory markers like IL-6 and IL-10, particularly in conditions involving chronic inflammation.
CaveatsWhile generally safe, sourcing is critical to ensure product purity and efficacy. Consult a doctor if you have specific medical conditions or are undergoing chemotherapy.
Dr. Brener emphasizes that NR's anti-inflammatory benefits are now a 'proven fact,' supported by eight randomized clinical trials. He recounts how this benefit was often discovered as a secondary outcome in trials initially designed for other endpoints, such as improving grip strength. However, dedicated trials, like one involving COPD patients, confirmed NR's ability to reduce inflammatory markers. The mechanism is believed to involve rebuilding NAD supplies in systems under inflammatory attack, which helps detoxify free radical species and supports repair processes. This makes NR a potentially broadly useful supplement for combating 'inflammaging' and other inflammation-driven conditions.
We've been able to show that in human beings and randomized control trials that nicotenomide ribos side at like a gram a day type type doses is anti-inflammatory. So that's now a that's now a proven fact.
NR Supplementation for Exercise Recovery
WhatTaking Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) to aid in recovery from physical exertion.
WhenMorning, potentially with breakfast, or at the start of a work cycle for shift workers.
Dose500-1000mg/day.
For whomAthletes, individuals with intense workout schedules, or anyone seeking to improve recovery from physical activity.
WhyNAD plays a critical role in cellular repair processes, and anecdotal evidence from athletic programs suggests NR aids recovery. Exercise itself increases NAD biosynthetic enzymes, and NR could synergize with this natural response.
CaveatsWhile anecdotal evidence is strong, rigorous placebo-controlled data specifically on NR for exercise recovery is still needed. Sourcing pure, tested NR is important.
Dr. Brener acknowledges that while rigorous placebo-controlled data on NR for exercise recovery is still emerging, there's strong anecdotal support from the sports world. He mentions that professional athletic programs, including the New England Patriots during Tom Brady's tenure, have used Niagen (a brand of NR) specifically for recovery. The rationale is that NAD is crucial for cellular repair, and exercise itself upregulates enzymes involved in NAD synthesis. Supplementing with NR is hypothesized to synergize with these natural adaptive responses, potentially enhancing the body's ability to recover from strenuous activity. He suggests that this is a promising area for future laboratory exercise physiology studies.
Personal experience
The speaker notes that professional football clubs and college athletic programs 'swear by this,' and mentions the New England Patriots (and Tom Brady) famously used Niagen for many years. The host also shares her personal experience: 'I have been taking Triogen for about I mean since August and I too a lot of other things but my recovery is great. That's why and I work out a lot.'
The sports trainers and the heads of, you know, professional football clubs and and college um athletic programs that buy, you know, Niagen by the tub swear by this.
NR Supplementation for Circadian Rhythm Disruption (Jet Lag/Shift Work)
WhatTaking Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) to help mitigate the effects of jet lag or shift work on the NAD system.
WhenMorning, aligned with the desired new time zone or work schedule. For night shift workers, this would be at the beginning of their 'day' (e.g., 10 PM if they start work at 11 PM).
For whomShift workers, frequent travelers experiencing jet lag, or individuals with disrupted sleep-wake cycles.
WhyDisrupted circadian rhythms disturb the NAD system, which has time-of-day cues for its synthesis and metabolic processes. NR supplementation, combined with other chronobiological strategies, may help reset the system.
CaveatsThis is a potential use case based on logical reasoning and pre-clinical evidence, but human trials specifically for NR in circadian disruption are limited. It should be combined with other established chronobiological strategies like bright light exposure.
Dr. Brener suggests that NR could be a valuable tool for individuals experiencing circadian rhythm disruption, such as shift workers or those with jet lag. He explains that the NAD system is intricately linked to chronobiology, with many time-of-day cues influencing NAD synthesis and NAD-dependent metabolic processes. Pre-clinical mouse studies have shown that older mice losing their chrono-synchrony also exhibit disturbed NAD systems. Therefore, supplementing with NR, particularly in the morning (or at the start of a night shift worker's 'day'), could help support the NAD system during periods of misalignment. He recommends combining this with other established strategies like bright sunlight exposure at the appropriate time.
I think this this is a potential use case for for niogen. So um you know bright sunlight um and you know potentially nicotenoid ribocide at that morning time.
Weight Management for NAD Support
WhatPrioritizing weight loss and addressing obesity to support NAD system health.
For whomIndividuals who are overweight or obese.
WhyObesity and insulin resistance disturb the liver's NAD system, degrading its ability to detoxify reactive oxygen species. Weight loss can alleviate this stress.
CaveatsNR is not a weight-loss drug on its own; it should be combined with other effective weight management strategies.
Dr. Brener highlights that obesity is a significant stressor on the NAD system. His lab's mouse experiments from 2016 showed that overfeeding mice a high-fat diet, pushing them into type 2 diabetes, disturbed their liver NAD system. Specifically, the pH (presumably referring to a pathway or enzyme related to NAD metabolism) was central to this disturbance, impairing the liver's ability to detoxify reactive oxygen species. He emphasizes that for individuals with overweight or obesity, addressing this through lifestyle changes or medical options (like GLP-1 medications in conjunction with resistance training) is a primary way to support NAD health, as it tackles a root cause of NAD system stress.
For people that have overweight and obesity, that's probably, you know, number one.
Exercise for NAD Support
WhatEngaging in regular physical activity to increase NAD levels and support overall health.
DoseAny exercise is better than none.
For whomEveryone, as exercise is universally beneficial.
WhyExercise leads to an increase in the gene expression of NAD biosynthetic enzymes, promoting NAD production and mitochondrial biogenesis, which are associated with youth and cellular rejuvenation.
CaveatsThe specific type of exercise (aerobic vs. strength training) that is 'best' for NAD is less important than consistent engagement.
Dr. Brener strongly advocates for exercise as a fundamental way to support NAD levels. He cites clinical evidence, including a recent publication with a German group, showing that exercise increases the gene expression of NAD biosynthetic enzymes. This means that physical activity directly stimulates the body's machinery for making NAD. He also links exercise to mitochondrial biogenesis, a process where new mitochondria are formed, which he describes as 'rejuvenating.' The overarching message is that any form of exercise is beneficial, as it triggers a cascade of transcriptional pathways that support NAD and overall cellular health.
We do have some clinical evidence showing that exercise leads to an increase in the gene expression of NAD biosynthetic enzymes.
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NAD levels in human blood vs. tissue with age
The expert challenges the common belief that human blood NAD levels universally decline with age, suggesting this is an overstatement. While tissue NAD pools likely decline or are disturbed, blood NAD levels in healthy older individuals often remain normal.
Why this matters: This is a contrarian stance against a widely accepted notion in the anti-aging community, emphasizing the distinction between systemic and localized NAD changes.
Background
It's a common assumption, often seen on social media, that NAD levels in humans decline across the board with aging, leading to widespread supplementation.
Dr. Brener clarifies that while the idea of NAD decline with age is prevalent, particularly on platforms like Instagram, direct evidence for a universal decline in human blood NAD levels is lacking. He notes that his lab's metabolomic analyses of human blood typically show consistent NAD+ levels (around 20 micromolar) in normal individuals, regardless of age. However, he acknowledges that NAD levels in specific tissues are likely disturbed or decline with age, and certain disease states, like mitochondrial disease or alcoholism affecting the liver, do show lower NAD levels in affected tissues or blood. The key distinction is that a systemic blood NAD decline in healthy aging humans is not as clearly evidenced as often portrayed.
When people say NAD levels decline in age, I don't think that there's evidence that human blood NAD declines in in age. I think that the likelihood that a number of human tissue NAD pools decline or are disturbed in age is incontrovertibly true.
Inflammation as a driver of NAD system disturbance
Inflammatory processes are identified as a primary mechanism by which NAD systems are disturbed in various disease conditions, not just in the blood but across all organs.
Why this matters: This highlights a critical, actionable insight: managing inflammation can directly support NAD health.
Dr. Brener emphasizes that inflammatory processes are likely a major factor in disturbing the NAD system across many disease conditions. He cites his lab's 2020 research during the COVID-19 pandemic, where they found that coronavirus infection transcriptionally activated five members of the PARP superfamily. These PARPs consume NAD, leading to a depletion of NAD resources. This response is not unique to COVID but is a common innate immune reaction to invaders like double-stranded RNA, which the body recognizes as foreign. Therefore, chronic inflammation, whether from infection, obesity, or other stressors, can significantly tax the NAD system by upregulating NAD-consuming enzymes.
I think that inflammatory processes are probably at work in many of the diseasing conditions in which the NAD system is disturbed in in not just the blood but in but in every organ.
NR's anti-inflammatory effects in humans
Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) supplementation has been shown in multiple human randomized controlled trials to have significant anti-inflammatory effects, lowering markers like IL-6 and IL-10.
Why this matters: This is a strong, evidence-based claim for a direct benefit of NR, moving beyond anecdotal or animal study evidence.
Background
Initial trials for NR often had 'topline failures' because they focused on unrealistic primary endpoints like grip strength improvement without exercise. However, secondary analyses consistently revealed anti-inflammatory benefits.
Dr. Brener highlights that while early clinical trials for NR sometimes missed their primary endpoints (e.g., improving grip strength in older men without exercise), subsequent analyses consistently revealed a strong anti-inflammatory effect. He notes that eight randomized clinical trials now demonstrate NR's ability to lower inflammatory markers such as IL-6 and IL-10 in humans. One particularly compelling study, where anti-inflammation was the primary endpoint, involved patients with COPD, a highly inflammatory respiratory condition. In this trial, NR significantly reduced inflammatory markers in sputum, confirming its anti-inflammatory action in a disease-relevant context. This suggests that NR helps by rebuilding NAD supplies in systems under inflammatory attack, thereby aiding in the detoxification of free radical species and supporting repair processes.
We've been able to show that in human beings and randomized control trials that nicotenomide ribos side at like a gram a day type type doses is anti-inflammatory. So that's now a that's now a proven fact.
NMN vs. NR for NAD boosting
Oral Nicotinamide Mononucleotide (NMN) is less effective than Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) for boosting cellular NAD because NMN, having a phosphate group, cannot directly enter cells and must first be broken down into NR.
Why this matters: This clarifies a common misconception and provides a strong rationale for choosing NR over NMN, which are often marketed similarly.
Dr. Brener explains that the fundamental difference between NMN and NR lies in their ability to enter cells. Molecules with phosphate groups, like NAD and NMN, generally cannot cross cell membranes. Therefore, when NMN is taken orally, it must first be broken down into NR before it can be transported into cells. Once inside the cell, NR is then converted back into NMN and subsequently into NAD. This means that taking NMN orally essentially delivers NR to the cells, making NR a more direct and efficient precursor. He also raises concerns about the purity and label claims of many commercially available NMN products, noting that many do not contain the advertised amount of NMN or are contaminated.
NMN has a phosphate group that precludes its transport into the cell... if you could find a safe um form of NMN and take it orally that NMN is being converted back to NR before it gets into cells.
NAD testing for individuals
While NAD testing is valuable in clinical trials, Dr. Brener does not recommend it for individual healthy people taking NAD boosters, as the supplements are known to increase NAD levels, and over-testing the 'worried well' is not helpful.
Why this matters: This is a pragmatic stance from an expert involved in NAD testing, advising against unnecessary expenditure and anxiety.
Personal experience
Dr. Brener is the Chief Scientific Advisor for NADMed, an NAD testing company, yet he advises against routine individual testing.
Do I think that there's a use case for it no I don't... if you take an aspirin do you need to do a mass spec to see whether you ingested an aspirin I I don't I don't see the use case for that.
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Nicotinamide (Vitamin B3)
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A safe and widely available NAD precursor, often found in multivitamins, and shown to lower cancer risk at the population level.
Nicotinamide is presented as a safe and well-established NAD precursor, commonly included in multivitamins. Dr. Brener points to Australian trials that demonstrated nicotinamide supplementation lowers the risk of non-melanoma skin cancer at the population level, providing strong evidence against concerns about NAD boosting causing cancer. Unlike nicotinic acid, it does not cause flushing, making it a more comfortable option for supplementation.
Nicotinomide has been in the food supply for a long time, usually pretty low dose. It's in pro probably every multivitamin. Um, we know it's really safe. We know that it's cancer preventative, which is a very good thing about this class of molecules is that they were tested in Australia, you know, where there's a very high incidence of skin cancer, right? so high that you can do a prospective um preventative clinical trial to see whether nicotinomide supplementation lowers the risk of skin cancer and it does.
Not recommended for NAD boosting; they were thought to be sirtuin activators but lack evidence for this or for longevity benefits, and pterostilbene can increase LDL cholesterol.
vs alternatives
These are often combined with NAD boosters in other products, but Dr. Brener argues they offer no additional benefit and can have negative side effects (pterostilbene increasing LDL).
There's there's no use case for resveratrol or terrace still in in in my view um both of those compounds were thought to be cert one activators um I don't think that there's a evidence basis for saying that cert one is a longevity gene um terrace still and resveratrol don't actually increase the activity of certain one anyway and and as you said terrace shows a dose dependent increase in LDL cholesterol which is generally not a good thing for people.
Recommended as a safe and effective NAD precursor for boosting NAD levels, with proven anti-inflammatory benefits and potential for exercise recovery and circadian rhythm support.
DisclosureDr. Charles Brener is the Chief Scientific Advisor of Niagen.
Dr. Brener, who is the Chief Scientific Advisor for Niagen, positions it as the most safety-tested NAD booster on the market. He highlights its proven anti-inflammatory effects in eight randomized clinical trials and its potential utility for exercise recovery, based on anecdotal evidence from professional sports. He also suggests it as a potential aid for managing circadian disruption. He emphasizes that Niagen has undergone rigorous safety testing, including up to 3 grams per day in certain populations, and is listed with the FDA as 'generally regarded as safe' (GRAS) and a 'new dietary ingredient' (NDI).
I'm chief scientific advisor of Niogen which makes this Niogen pill right I'm also chief scientific advisor of NadMed which is an ND testing company do I think there's a use case for Niogen in people in healthy aging yes on the basis of eight randomized clinical trials showing anti-inflammatory benefits in people positive trial and peripheral artery disease and some of these suggestively positive trials like long co which which we talked about
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When people say NAD levels decline in age, I don't think that there's evidence that human blood NAD declines in in age. I think that the likelihood that a number of human tissue NAD pools decline or are disturbed in age is incontrovertibly true.
Challenges a widely accepted belief about NAD decline, distinguishing between systemic blood levels and localized tissue levels.
The thing that your listeners need to know is that high energy electrons run us as well. They run living things as well. And the wiring for the high energy electrons are basically NAD co-enzymes.
Provides a clear and relatable analogy (electric car wiring) for NAD's fundamental role in energy transfer.
So in the biggest buckets that I can describe to to not get into the specificity initially, the biggest buckets are converting fuel into ATP, right? Um building stuff and repairing stuff. Those are the three biggest buckets in which NAD co-enzymes are critical.
Summarizes the three core, essential functions of NAD in a concise and memorable way.
If you take an aspirin do you need to do a mass spec to see whether you ingested an aspirin I I don't I don't see the use case for that.
Uses a strong analogy to dismiss the need for routine NAD blood testing for individuals, emphasizing that efficacy is known.
The exercise that you do is infinitely better than the exercise that you plan to do or wish you did.
A practical and motivating statement about the importance of consistent action over perfect planning in exercise.
So it's not that it's necessarily easier for nicotine to get there. Oh well you asked about NAD and NMN, right? Well yeah NAD so NAD is not even getting in inside of cells essentially. You're taking it orally. There's a there's a funny thing where people started um injecting, right? Yeah. Let's get to that. NAD NAD IV drips. Yeah. So, so and then um have you ever talked to anybody that has done it? Yes. Did they tell you how painful it is? No. They talked about how great they felt and how they had energy. Yeah. But it's a it's delivered over a several hour period in which the people experience an innate immune response because the NAD can't get into cells. Neither can NMN get into cells. So these compounds break down into NR or something smaller, right?
Explains why direct NAD or NMN supplementation (oral or IV) is inefficient, as they must break down into NR to enter cells, and highlights the painful innate immune response to NAD IVs.
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