Cyclosporine's arrival in the early 1980s was the single turning point that took one-year kidney graft survival from roughly 60–70% to 90% overnight, and it simultaneously reinvigorated liver, heart, and lung transplant programs that had been on enforced hiatus.
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A living-donor kidney placed in the recipient with minimal ischemic time consistently outperforms even a perfectly HLA-matched deceased-donor kidney because ischemia-reperfusion injury primes the immune system and predisposes to rejection independent of compatibility.
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NASH and alcohol-related liver disease have replaced hepatitis C as the dominant indications for liver transplantation; direct-acting antivirals essentially cured the hepatitis C backlog, but no equivalent intervention exists for fatty liver disease driven by the obesity epidemic.
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The liver is the only major solid organ with no viable extracorporeal support — no liver dialysis bridges patients the way ECMO, ventricular assist devices, or dialysis bridge cardiac, pulmonary, or renal failure — making timely listing and organ availability existentially critical for those patients.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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Register as an organ donor and communicate wishes to family explicitly
WhatMark organ donor status on driver's license and communicate the decision explicitly to next of kin, framing it as an advance directive so no family member faces ambiguity in a crisis.
WhenAny time — proactively, before any medical emergency.
For whomAll adults; particularly important for anyone who has lost a family member and has seen firsthand the decision families face.
WhyDonor families who report the most positive experience of organ donation describe it as the one good thing in the worst day of their lives. Unregistered donors whose families must decide in the middle of a trauma create an impossible burden; pre-registration and verbal communication with family essentially removes that burden and increases the probability the gift is realized.
Sonnenday recounts Jeff and Tina Webster, whose 21-year-old son Aaron died in a Jeep rollover: without hesitation they donated every organ, eventually got to know all the recipients, and one recipient has a tattoo of Aaron on his arm. He also describes Attia's own experience — a childhood friend whose mother donated every organ including split liver, corneas, and skin — as the kind of story that illustrates the scope of one donation's impact. More than 100,000 people are currently on transplant waiting lists in the US; fewer than 40,000 transplants are performed annually; the gap grows each year.
i always try to focus on the profound impact that transplantation can have and try to share with them what i've learned from donor families over the years and many of them can poignantly tell of their experience of organ donation and knowing that their loved one's organs went on to live in another individual and save their life is the only good thing about what was otherwise the worst day of their lives
Also said
“i do encourage people if they feel passionately about it to make the decision themselves because walking through that decision making with someone's loved one who is in the middle of the night in a foreign hospital trying to make the decision about the wishes of their loved one isn't is an impossible task”— Sonnenday's clinical case for pre-registration as an act of care for family members.
Tacrolimus-based triple immunosuppression as standard post-transplant regimen
WhatThe dominant post-transplant immunosuppression protocol uses tacrolimus (a calcineurin inhibitor, successor to cyclosporine) as the anchor, typically combined with mycophenolate mofetil (MMF) and a tapering corticosteroid course.
WhenStarted immediately post-transplant; tacrolimus is a lifelong therapy at maintenance doses; steroids are typically tapered to low-dose or discontinued over months to years depending on rejection risk.
DoseTacrolimus trough levels titrated (typically 8–12 ng/mL early post-transplant, 5–8 ng/mL long-term maintenance); MMF standard dose 1 g twice daily adjusted for tolerability; prednisone tapered per center protocol.
For whomAll solid organ transplant recipients; dose and combination adjusted based on organ type, rejection risk, and patient comorbidities.
WhyTacrolimus interferes with calcineurin-mediated T-cell activation by binding immunophilins, blocking IL-2 secretion and downstream cytokine cascade, selectively suppressing the cellular rejection pathway that destroyed grafts in the pre-cyclosporine era. Its potency and selectivity over azathioprine and steroids alone transformed one-year kidney graft survival from ~60–70% to approximately 90%.
CaveatsTacrolimus has a potent vasoconstrictive effect in the kidney (nephrotoxic at high levels); requires close therapeutic drug monitoring. Both cyclosporine and tacrolimus work via calcineurin inhibition but differ in their immunophilin binding and side-effect profiles.
Sonnenday traces the mechanistic evolution: first high-dose steroids and azathioprine were used to blunt the immune response broadly; total body irradiation was attempted at Brigham and Women's (Francis Moore's era). None selectively addressed cellular rejection until cyclosporine revealed that interfering with the T-cell receptor downstream cascade — specifically the calcineurine-immunophyllin complex and IL-2 secretion — was the key. Tacrolimus (FK506) arrived as a more potent successor with a cleaner nephrotoxicity profile in the right dosing range. The field continues to refine combinations to minimize cumulative toxicity while preventing both acute and chronic rejection.
Mechanism
Tacrolimus binds FK-binding proteins (immunophilins), the complex then inhibits calcineurin, blocking dephosphorylation of NFAT transcription factors, suppressing IL-2 gene transcription and T-cell activation. Additional effects on T-cell receptor binding affinity and vasoconstriction in certain organ beds are not fully characterized.
if you look at papers written in the 1980s about kidney transplant outcomes there's literally an inflection point you went from recipients having one year graft survival rates even with kind of the best immunosuppressive regimens that had been figured out at that point one-year graft survival rates probably in the 70-ish 60 percent range boom you know 90 overnight just with the addition of cyclosporine
Also said
“it was interfering with the cascade that occurred when that foreign antigen was presented to the recipient t cell and it specifically inhibited il2 secretion it affects il2 secretion”— The molecular mechanism that explains cyclosporine's and tacrolimus's selectivity over prior broad immunosuppressants.
Pre-transplant crossmatch testing and HLA typing to rule out hyperacute rejection
WhatBefore any solid organ transplant, mix donor cells with recipient serum (crossmatch assay) to detect preformed recipient antibodies that would lyse donor cells and cause hyperacute rejection. Simultaneously characterize donor and recipient HLA antigens to assess compatibility and guide immunosuppression intensity.
WhenPre-transplant, for every donor-recipient pair, every time — cannot be skipped even for living donors.
For whomAll transplant candidates; high-PRA patients require more extensive antibody testing and may need desensitization protocols before transplant.
WhyHyperacute rejection (immediate graft thrombosis upon reperfusion) is caused by preformed recipient antibodies against donor HLA antigens; a positive crossmatch is an absolute contraindication to proceeding without desensitization protocols. Certain populations (prior transplants, blood transfusions, pregnancy) have higher rates of sensitization and broader panels of reactive antibodies (PRA).
CaveatsThe crossmatch tests for gross incompatibility; low-level donor-specific antibodies (DSA) detectable only with more sensitive assays can still cause antibody-mediated rejection over time. Paired kidney exchange algorithms must incorporate DSA risk when evaluating proposed swap pairs.
Sonnenday traces the intellectual history: the first insight that tissue incompatibility was immunologic came from skin graft experiments where a second graft from the same donor was rejected faster — suggesting the immune system had been primed (same principle as a vaccine's second-hit response). The question of whether rejection was humoral (circulating antibodies) or cellular took decades to resolve. It turned out to be both: hyperacute rejection is antibody-mediated, similar to ABO blood type incompatibility (and manageable by crossmatch testing); acute and chronic rejection is T-cell-mediated cellular rejection, requiring calcineurin inhibitors to prevent.
Mechanism
Preformed anti-HLA antibodies fix complement on donor endothelium, triggering immediate thrombosis (hyperacute). Cellular rejection involves recipient antigen-presenting cells processing donor HLA peptides, activating recipient T cells via TCR-MHC interaction, leading to cytokine release, cytotoxic T-cell infiltration, and graft injury.
the concept of taking donor cells recipient serum mixing them in an assay and determining whether or not the that serum lyses those cells and that is more or less the technique that is used to cross match individuals
Cold ischemia time minimization as the primary logistical goal in deceased-donor procurement
WhatMinimize the interval from vascular clamping in the donor to reperfusion in the recipient. For kidneys, tolerable cold ischemia is roughly 24–36 hours; for livers, 12–18 hours; for hearts and lungs, 4–6 hours. When possible, have a local qualified surgeon procure the organ rather than flying a team from the recipient center.
WhenEvery deceased-donor procurement; the decision to fly a team versus accepting a locally procured organ is made with ischemic time as the primary variable.
DoseIschemic time is nearly linearly correlated with graft survival; every hour counts. Wisconsin solution (UW solution) or comparable cold preservation flush is used immediately upon cross-clamp.
For whomTransplant centers managing deceased-donor allocation; directly relevant to policy decisions about procurement logistics.
WhyIschemia-reperfusion injury causes direct nephron/hepatocyte loss and, critically, primes the immune system to mount a rejection response against the graft independent of HLA compatibility. Cold storage in preservation solution mitigates but does not eliminate cellular ischemic injury. The 2007 University of Michigan plane crash (six transplant team members killed over Lake Michigan returning with lungs) catalyzed a policy shift: now more than 50% of liver procurements at Michigan are done by local surgeons who ship the organ, rather than by a flying team.
Sonnenday explains the history of preservation solutions: the principle of flushing the organ with a fortified electrolyte solution (Wisconsin solution and its predecessors) to mitigate ischemic cellular processes has not fundamentally changed since the 1960s–70s. What has changed is the recognition that 'machine perfusion' — keeping the organ on a perfusion circuit rather than static cold storage — is showing promise in extending tolerable ischemic times and allowing assessment of organ viability before implantation. This is especially important for DCD organs, which have had more ischemic injury before procurement.
that ischemic period is critical and is really almost linearly related to the graft survival part of that is probably due to the consequences just of the ischemia reperfusion injury and kind of literally knocking off some nephrons just from that process part of it also is as we've learned is that that ischemia reperfusion injury cascade that starts is a priming event for the immune system
Proactive GFR monitoring and microalbuminuria screening as longevity-preservation protocol
WhatTrack GFR trajectory over years using cystatin C (not just creatinine), microalbumin in urine twice yearly, and tight blood pressure control (target below 120/80), treating even mild hypertension as an unacceptable risk to long-term kidney function if the goal is healthspan into the 90s.
WhenStarting in middle age; more urgently in anyone with hypertension, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, or family history of CKD.
For whomAnyone with a longevity goal substantially beyond average life expectancy; patients with pre-diabetes or metabolic syndrome are particularly high-risk for the progressive CKD that drives much of the current transplant demand.
WhyA GFR of 40 mL/min is acceptable for a patient expected to live to their early 70s; for someone aiming for healthy 90s, a GFR of 40 in the early 70s predicts dialysis dependency long before the longevity goal is achieved. Creatinine is a poor GFR surrogate due to its dependence on muscle mass; cystatin C is more sensitive for early decline.
CaveatsThe race-based GFR equation adjustment has been reconsidered; race should not be used to adjust creatinine-based GFR equations as this can systematically delay referral for treatment in Black patients.
Attia frames kidney function as the 'glider altitude' problem: if you want to cross a 300-foot chasm instead of a 200-foot chasm, you need to start higher. He calculated that a GFR of 95 in midlife declining at 1 mL/min/year naturally, plus a 'too high' blood pressure adding an incremental 1 mL/min/year of decline, reaches dialysis territory well within a 90-year lifespan. The 100,000-person US transplant waitlist with roughly 4-fold more on dialysis and 10-fold more with progressive CKD represents a public health crisis that will only intensify as the pre-diabetes and metabolic syndrome epidemic ages into renal failure.
Personal experience
Attia: 'if my interest clinically is trying to figure out how to help people live longer and live better you've got to start thinking about what are the things that you have to plan for... your blood pressure of 130 over 85 is not really acceptable that's going to take you from a gfr of 95 to 85 in the next decade and we consider that to be too precipitous a decline'
looking at statin c beyond just creatinine and other biomarkers and looking at microalbumin in the urine twice a year i mean we do all these things but even though they seem kind of crazy because it's how you sort of start to catch that early early oh look you know what your blood pressure of 130 over 85 is not really acceptable
Morbidity and mortality conference run with system-blame not individual-blame culture
WhatConduct regular case reviews of adverse outcomes where the moderator leads with their own cases first, the discussion focuses exclusively on what could we do better as a system rather than assigning individual fault, and all errors are treated as opportunities for process improvement.
WhenWeekly at minimum in any surgical department; the same culture applies to any team managing high-stakes patient care.
For whomSurgical departments, ICU teams, transplant centers; any clinical environment where adverse outcomes occur regularly and systemic learning is possible.
WhyIndividual blame in M&M drives under-reporting, shame-based culture that degrades team function and prevents systematic learning. John Cameron at Hopkins led with his own cases — a modeling behavior that created psychological safety for trainees and junior faculty to discuss their errors without career-threatening consequences.
Sonnenday describes the Hopkins M&M as the most intense hour of the week outside the OR. The key cultural feature: former chair John Cameron always moderated and always led with his own complications first. The story Attia tells illustrates the principle from the other direction: Sonnenday caught a missed compartment syndrome on a patient already being discharged, took the patient to the OR, saved his leg — and then presented the case at M&M as though it were his own miss, never revealing the circumstances that led to the near-miss. The effect on junior residents like Attia was profound: it modeled a standard of accountability that had nothing to do with blame.
you can look into a department's soul by attending their morbidity and mortality conference it is it becomes the kind of cultural event of the department because you get a sense for what that level of accountability is — is the conference spent kind of blaming the anesthesiologist or the nurse or is the discussion about what we could do better next time to make the patient's outcome better
Acetaminophen overdose — immediate transplant evaluation, do not wait for full hepatic failure
WhatIn any patient presenting with intentional or accidental acetaminophen overdose causing acute liver failure (rising INR/PT, rising LFTs, altered mental status), initiate transplant evaluation early — do not wait for full encephalopathy before listing, because the window of cognitive lucidity in which informed consent can be obtained closes rapidly.
WhenAs soon as coagulopathy and synthetic failure are evident in the context of acetaminophen-induced acute liver failure, even before full encephalopathy sets in.
For whomEmergency physicians, intensivists, hepatologists; any clinician evaluating a patient with acute liver failure from any cause.
WhyAcetaminophen's LD50 may be only 10–20x the normal therapeutic dose; it is freely available, and the window between this is serious and cognitively incompetent to participate in her own care can be measured in hours. Sonnenday's approach: give the benefit of the doubt to young patients who took an impulsive overdose, get them transplanted rapidly, then use post-transplant mental health resources to address underlying causes.
CaveatsAcute liver failure accounts for only approximately 5% of liver transplants in the US; the liver has significant regenerative capacity and some patients will recover without transplant. The clinical challenge is prognostication: specific scoring systems (King's College criteria) help identify patients unlikely to recover spontaneously.
Attia recalls a 21-year-old who took a bottle of acetaminophen after a breakup and was lucid enough to understand her situation — INR and LFTs through the roof — while knowing she would die without a transplant. She was listed and transplanted. Sonnenday frames the ethical calculus: who among us hasn't done a dumb thing at 21, and the transplant community's general approach is to give such patients the benefit of the doubt and address mental health afterwards rather than using the circumstances of the overdose as a gatekeeping criterion.
the approach of our center which i think is true of most transplant centers is to give those patients the benefit of the doubt and try and get them to transplant rapidly and then use all the appropriate resources afterwards to help support them and make sure that any mental health issues and such are addressed
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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Living donor kidney beats a 6/6 HLA-matched deceased donor kidney every time
~1 h 15 min
Bob Montgomery taught Attia that a living-donor zero-out-of-six HLA match will always outperform a six-out-of-six HLA-matched cadaveric kidney. The reason: ischemic time is nearly eliminated when donor and recipient are in adjacent operating rooms, while a cadaveric organ can sit on ice for 6–72 hours, and that ischemia-reperfusion cascade both damages nephrons directly and primes the immune system to mount a rejection response.
Why this matters: Reframes how patients and clinicians should prioritize living versus deceased donor transplant — immunologic matching matters far less than ischemic time in determining long-term graft survival.
Background
Kidney transplantation historically assumed the best immunologic match was the paramount goal; the ischemia-reperfusion insight emerged as the field matured and long-term outcomes data accumulated.
Dr. Sonnenday explains the two factors compounding each other: first, deceased-donor kidneys suffer literal nephron loss from ischemia-reperfusion injury; second, that same injury cascade is a priming event for the immune system, making those kidneys more prone to rejection and typically requiring more aggressive immunosuppression. Living-donor kidneys, even with mismatched HLA antigens, sidestep both problems. The implication is that every transplant candidate should be strongly counseled to explore living donation before waiting for a deceased-donor match, and that paired kidney exchange networks (algorithms pioneered partly by colleagues Dory Segev and Summer Gentry) can widen the compatible-donor pool for those whose intended donor is blood-type or HLA incompatible.
a live donor zero out of six hla match is always going to be a six out of six cadaveric match and i remember thinking how is that possible
Also said
“there's a difference between the deceased and living donor curves and that's what you were kind of so fascinated about and the reasons for that are many but it probably speaks to the fact that even with all of the best technique and advances there is really no way to mitigate the fact that a deceased donor that goes through the process and the trauma of brain death gets removed from that individual's body preserved put on ice transported to another center and then sewn into the recipient”— Sonnenday's direct mechanistic explanation for why ischemic time dominates immunologic compatibility.
Direct-acting antivirals essentially ended hepatitis C as a transplant indication
~2 h 25 min
For roughly two decades hepatitis C was the dominant indication for liver transplantation in the United States, and pre-DAA treatments (interferon-based, ~15–30% response rates) meant most transplanted patients developed recurrent hepatitis C in their new graft, often progressing to cirrhosis again. Within the last 10 years, direct-acting antivirals (DAAs) achieve near-100% sustained virologic response, have precipitously dropped the number of patients needing transplant for hep C, and represent one of the greatest medical advances of Attia's and Sonnenday's careers.
Why this matters: The hep C story is a template for what 'curing a disease before it reaches end-organ failure' looks like — and a cautionary contrast to NASH, for which no equivalent intervention yet exists.
Background
Hepatitis C patients infected in the 1970s and 80s (via contaminated blood supply, IV drug use) presented 20–30 years later with cirrhosis, making the late 2000s/early 2010s the peak of the transplant burden.
Sonnenday notes the outcome was not simply fewer transplants: patients who already had cirrhosis but cleared the virus on DAAs showed unexpected hepatic recompensation — their livers partially repaired, and many who had been on a certain trajectory toward transplant never needed one. The contrast with NASH is stark: with NASH the driver is metabolic syndrome and obesity, and we have no DAA-equivalent to interrupt the fibrosis cascade before it reaches cirrhosis.
what has happened and what you're alluding to is in the last 10 years essentially was the development of these direct anti-viral agents that have transformed the field of hepatitis c and it's you know you can make some arguments about what's the greatest medical advance we've witnessed in our you know medical career but that's up in the top two or three
NASH and alcohol-related liver disease have replaced hepatitis C as the dominant transplant indications
~2 h 35 min
By 2030, NASH (non-alcoholic steatohepatitis, the inflammatory form of fatty liver disease) is projected to become the leading indication for liver transplantation in the developed world; the curve has already begun inflecting steeply upward. Simultaneously, alcohol-related liver disease has seen an explosion — worsened by the pandemic — and transplant centers have shifted from rigid sobriety-requirement gatekeeping toward mental-health-integrated approaches that allow earlier listing.
Why this matters: The NASH epidemic maps directly onto the obesity/metabolic-syndrome epidemic that Attia's longevity framework treats as a primary driver of premature mortality; and the patient population (obese, with cardiovascular disease, hyperlipidemia) is far more medically complex than the classic hepatitis C or alcohol cirrhosis patient.
Sonnenday observes that the NASH transplant population now looks more like the kidney transplant population — they carry cardiovascular comorbidities that threaten long-term survival as much as their liver disease and immunosuppression do. Alcohol-related liver disease is notable for its increasingly young presentation: patients in their 20s and 30s destroying their liver, analogous to the opioid crisis in terms of underlying behavioral disease but treated less urgently by medicine and society because alcohol is freely available and its toxicity is chronic rather than acutely binary.
the prediction is that by 2030 or so it will become the leading indication for liver transplantation and we've already seen that curve start to inflect up pretty highly
Also said
“one of the things that's most notable about the alcohol-related liver disease population now is they are ridiculously young you know so not only have they drank enough to destroy their liver but they've drank enough to destroy their liver in their 20s and 30s”— Highlights a demographic shift that changes the risk-benefit calculus for listing decisions and long-term immunosuppression management.
Brain death versus donation after cardiac death — the two distinct donor pathways
~1 h 55 min
Brain death (neurological determination of death) requires that the brain has permanently lost function and blood flow — documented by clinical examination including an apnea test — while cardiopulmonary function is maintained on mechanical support. Donation after cardiac death (DCD) applies to patients who are not brain dead but whose care teams and families have decided to withdraw life support; organs are procured only after cardiac death is declared, maintaining the ethical firewall between the treating team and the transplant team.
Why this matters: Many laypeople conflate brain death with 'being on life support' or believe that organ donor registration will compromise their own care — understanding the strict separation of teams and the precise clinical definitions is the primary lever for increasing donation consent rates.
Background
The legal and clinical definition of brain death was largely developed in response to the growth of transplantation in the 1960s–70s, because the field required a clear definition of death before organ procurement could be ethically justified.
Sonnenday explains the apnea test: mechanical ventilation is briefly suspended; failure to generate any spontaneous respiratory effort, combined with other criteria (absent brainstem reflexes, hemodynamic stability, absence of confounding metabolic conditions), confirms brain death. He also emphasizes the ethical architecture: the treating ICU team has no involvement with the transplant team; the organ procurement organization (OPO) is engaged only after brain death is confirmed and the family has indicated their wishes. For DCD, withdrawal of care happens entirely before any transplant machinery is involved, and a provider with no transplant affiliation declares death.
the systems are completely separate with an opportunity for integration in between that only occurs when certain events has happened in the individual's care
Geographic organ allocation inequity has been largely corrected by concentric-circle distribution
~1 h 40 min
Historically, organ allocation was run locally and regionally first, creating massive disparities — patients in high-population states like California faced far longer waits than patients in lower-demand Midwest states. Heart, lung, and liver allocation have already shifted to a concentric-circle model (distance from donor hospital) that has substantially narrowed the geographic gap; kidney is following.
Why this matters: The reform that eliminated state/regional priority lines for liver, heart, and lung was a fundamental equity correction — but it has also sharpened the visibility of the overall organ shortage, since the sickest patients on a national list now get transplanted faster while moderately ill patients wait longer.
Sonnenday notes a practical side effect: patients at the top of the national liver list (most severely ill by MELD score) now get transplanted very rapidly because they draw from a national pool; the challenge shifts to the 'medium sick' tier who now compete with sicker patients across the country. The underlying solution is expanding the donor pool through increased deceased-donor registration and living-donor programs.
the geographic variation that exists across the country has decreased so it's not as important now to like go to a certain place if you need a liver transplant for example
Kidney transplantation at age 81 — transplant survival benefit persists even in elderly recipients
~1 h 35 min
Sonnenday recently transplanted an 81-year-old patient at the University of Michigan; the general principle is that for otherwise functionally healthy individuals, transplant survival curves beat dialysis survival curves in almost every circumstance, and that crossover occurs within 90–250 days of surgery even accounting for operative and immunosuppressive risk.
Why this matters: Challenges the perception that transplant is a therapy for younger patients; raises the longevity-planning question of whether GFR preservation and early listing should be treated as proactive longevity interventions rather than reactive end-stage rescue.
we transplanted an 81 year old a few weeks ago and i remember as i was looking at the census i was like wait a minute is this gentleman 10 years out from a transplant back in the hospital for some other reason or did we actually transplant this 81 year old
The liver is the only major organ with no viable extracorporeal bridge therapy
~2 h 10 min
Every other organ that fails before transplant has some form of bridge: dialysis for kidneys, ventricular assist devices and ECMO for hearts, mechanical ventilation for lungs. The liver has none that works — decades of attempts at 'liver dialysis' (removing toxins) have not succeeded in replacing synthetic function, particularly the second-by-second regulation of gluconeogenesis and glycogen metabolism.
Why this matters: Without a bridge, patients with acute or decompensating chronic liver failure are entirely dependent on the speed of deceased-donor availability or living-donor surgery. This makes donor registration and living-donor programs existentially critical for this population in a way that doesn't apply to other solid organ failures.
Background
Mel Williams at Johns Hopkins ran the most dramatic illustration — cross-circulating an acute liver failure patient with a baboon to filter toxins, which briefly worked but was obviously not a scalable solution; the hepatocyte-populated 'dialysis column' remains investigational.
Attia's hypothesis: the core reason no machine can replicate the liver is the regulation of blood glucose. Gluconeogenesis and glycogen storage require real-time adjustment at the milligram level with seconds of latency tolerance — a computational and biochemical complexity that current mechanical or cell-based systems cannot match. This also explains why acute liver failure (e.g., acetaminophen overdose) is so lethal in a narrow time window: the patient is cognitively intact enough to understand their prognosis while coagulation and synthetic function collapse simultaneously.
the liver remains the only major organ with no form of extracorporeal support and i think it speaks to one particular function of the liver the regulation of blood glucose it is so complicated to manage gluconeogenesis glycogen storage you have to be able to regulate something to the milligram level with seconds to spare
When an intended living donor and recipient are blood-type or HLA incompatible, paired kidney exchange (PKE) allows a swap with another incompatible pair who happen to be cross-compatible. National PKE networks now run mathematical matching algorithms (developed partly by Dory Segev and mathematician Summer Gentry) that maximize predicted outcomes across chains of swaps — including chains where a donor's kidney ships to another institution while a different kidney ships back.
Why this matters: PKE has meaningfully expanded kidney transplant access without requiring any additional deceased-donor organs; it is a pure efficiency gain from better matching within the existing willing-donor pool.
Sonnenday describes performing a laparoscopic donor nephrectomy and shipping the kidney to another institution, while a kidney from a donor at that institution was shipped back for their two recipients — the donor operations and recipient operations were completely dissociated in space and time. The complexity introduced is the quality and compatibility tradeoff: a swap might exchange a younger, healthier living-donor kidney for an older one, or create an immunologic situation requiring more immunosuppression. The algorithms price in these differences to maximize net benefit across the entire chain.
some smart people including colleagues of ours that we both know dory segev and his wife summer gentry who's a mathematician started thinking about that like so could we start putting some value on those exchanges and create networks of individuals it's kind of like the dating game for kidneys
Recommendations
Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode
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RegisterMe.org / state driver's license organ donor designation
Service
Sonnenday's explicit recommendation is that every adult proactively register as an organ donor on their driver's license and communicate that decision to their family — both steps together are what convert a wish into an actually realized gift.
Over 100,000 people are currently on the transplant waiting list in the US; approximately 40,000 transplants are performed annually; the gap grows each year. The fastest lever available to close that gap is increased donation consent rates, and the single biggest obstacle is families who are asked to decide in crisis without knowing their loved one's wishes. Sonnenday describes his daughter being asked by peers because her father is a transplant surgeon — he uses the opportunity to explain both the mechanics (your care team is completely separate from the transplant team) and the legacy dimension (donor families universally describe it as the one good thing).
vs alternatives
Waiting for a family member to register without prompting leaves the decision unresolved; a verbal conversation without driver's license registration is better but can be disputed in crisis; driver's license designation plus explicit conversation with next-of-kin is the highest-reliability approach.
i do encourage people if they feel passionately about it to make the decision themselves because i can tell you walking through that decision making with someone's loved one who is in the middle of the night in a foreign hospital trying to make the decision about the wishes of their loved one isn't is an impossible task
Cystatin C for GFR monitoring (over creatinine alone)
Tool
Attia recommends cystatin C as a more sensitive marker of early GFR decline for anyone pursuing longevity beyond average life expectancy, because creatinine-based GFR estimates are confounded by muscle mass and systematically underestimate early CKD in lean or elderly patients.
The longevity-planning context is the glider altitude calculation: if you aim for healthy 90s, a GFR of 40 in your early 70s is catastrophic, not acceptable. Catching the decline from 95 to 85 in the 50s — before it becomes irreversible — requires a sensitive tool. Microalbumin in urine twice yearly catches early glomerular permeability changes that precede measurable GFR decline. Together, these allow intervention (blood pressure control, metabolic optimization) at the stage when reversal is still possible.
looking at statin c beyond just creatinine and other biomarkers and looking at microalbumin in the urine twice a year i mean we do all these things but even though they seem kind of crazy because it's how you sort of start to catch that early early decline
Explore living-donor options before waiting for a deceased-donor organ
Practice
Sonnenday's strong recommendation for any kidney or liver transplant candidate: actively explore living-donor options and paired kidney exchange before waiting passively on the deceased-donor list. The living-donor advantage in long-term graft survival is large and independent of HLA matching.
About 18–20,000 kidney transplants are performed annually in the US; roughly half now involve living donors, yet Sonnenday believes the living-donor fraction is still below its potential. Paired kidney exchange networks (national algorithms now available) mean that even when an intended donor is incompatible by blood type or HLA, a chain of swaps can often find a compatible path. The key is that patients and their families need to hear clearly from the transplant team: ask everyone around you, because even an imperfect immunologic match from a living donor beats the best deceased-donor option.
vs alternatives
Waiting on the deceased-donor list means an average of 3–5 years for kidney in most regions, with ischemic-time-related graft quality reductions and higher rejection risk compared to living donation.
i think if you had your druthers you know as a person in need of a kidney transplant you would want to have the access and the opportunity to get a living donor any day of the week if you if that is possible to you
Integrated mental health support for alcohol-related liver disease listing decisions
Practice
Sonnenday describes a shift in the transplant community's approach to alcohol-related liver disease away from rigid sobriety-duration gatekeeping toward a mental-health-integrated model — listing patients with shorter sobriety when they demonstrate meaningful engagement with counselors and support systems, rather than applying an arbitrary 6-month rule.
University of Michigan hepatologist Jessica Mellinger has led work framing alcohol-related liver disease as a behavioral disease requiring behavioral resources — counselors, mental health professionals, sobriety support — integrated into the transplant eligibility pathway rather than as exclusion criteria applied retrospectively. The clinical reality is that alcohol-related liver disease patients are increasingly young (20s and 30s) and often present in a first serious decompensation with no prior treatment engagement; a rigid sobriety requirement without treatment resources simply results in death while waiting.
you know she really makes the sense that the um emphasizes the point that this is a behavioral disease you know and therefore the resources have to be put forth to address the behavioral disease
Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased
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the experience of organ donation and knowing that their loved one's organs went on live on in another individual and save their life is the only good thing about what was otherwise the worst day of their lives
The most resonant case Sonnenday makes for pre-registration as an organ donor — directly from donor families, not from a transplant surgeon's advocacy perspective.
the liver remains the only major organ with no form of extracorporeal support and i think it speaks to one particular function of the liver the regulation of blood glucose it is so complicated to manage gluconeogenesis glycogen storage you have to be able to regulate something to the milligram level with seconds to spare
Explains the unique and lethal urgency of liver failure in a single sentence — no machine bridge means no safety net between decompensation and transplant.
there's literally an inflection point you went from recipients having one year graft survival rates probably in the 70-ish 60 percent range boom you know 90 overnight just with the addition of cyclosporine
The most dramatic single-drug inflection point in transplant history, illustrating what a targeted molecular therapy can do when it hits the right mechanism.
it's kind of like the dating game for kidneys where you come forward with your donor and the algorithm looks at all the other possible pairs and tries to match individuals in a way that maximizes predicted outcome
Vivid explanation of paired kidney exchange — a zero-waste optimization of an already-willing donor pool using mathematical matching.
a live donor zero out of six hla match is always going to be a six out of six cadaveric match and i remember thinking how is that possible
The counterintuitive principle that upended the intuition that immunologic matching is the dominant variable in kidney transplant outcomes.
those two sisters came back you know to celebrate that event so i mean it was a remarkably remarkable achievement but it was a little bit of a false pretense because none of the immunologic barriers were being confronted
Sonnenday's honest framing of the twin-transplant era — proof of concept for the technical feat, but not a solution to the immunologic problem that would define the next 30 years.
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