The TAME trial — 3,000 people ages 65–80 across 14 US centers — is the first clinical study designed to get FDA approval for an aging indication, using metformin to prove that targeting aging itself delays a composite cluster of cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer's, and mortality rather than any single disease.
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More than 60% of Ashkenazi centenarians carry mutations in the growth hormone / IGF-1 pathway; women with the lowest IGF-1 levels live roughly twice as long as those with the highest, pointing to low IGF-1 signaling as the dominant longevity lever in humans — but only in women.
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Metformin's anti-aging effect likely stems from complex-I inhibition, AMPK activation, mTOR suppression, and autophagy induction, plus NF-κB-mediated anti-inflammation and HDAC epigenetic changes — a 'B-student' that does many aging-relevant things well simultaneously rather than any single one perfectly.
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Centenarians do not escape chronic disease — they get cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimer's — but roughly 20–30 years later than the rest of the population, and the CDC data show their last-two-years medical cost is one-third that of people who die at 70.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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TAME-style metformin dosing for non-diabetic aging prevention
WhatMetformin titrated from 500 mg QHS up to 1,000–1,500 mg/day (in the TAME trial: 1,500 mg/day). Attia's clinical practice for non-diabetic patients: start 500 mg QHS, titrate to 500 mg BID, then 500 mg AM / 1,000 mg before bed as standard dose.
WhenIn adults who accept the current evidence base and want to participate in the anti-aging benefit seen in observational data; ideally used while TAME results are awaited.
Dose500 mg QHS → 500 mg BID → 1,000 mg AM + 500 mg QHS or 1,000 mg BID. TAME uses 1,500 mg/day. Barzilai started himself at pre-diabetes diagnosis on clinical recommendation.
For whomAdults 65+ with at least one age-related risk factor, or younger adults with pre-diabetes, family history of cancer, or cardiovascular risk who understand this is off-label and evidence is still accumulating. Not studied in under-65 healthy adults.
WhyUK database study: 78,000 metformin-treated diabetics had 17% lower mortality than matched non-diabetic controls. Animal studies show 10% lifespan extension (less than rapamycin's 24%) but ~50% healthspan improvement. Mechanisms: complex-I inhibition → AMPK → mTOR suppression → autophagy; NF-κB anti-inflammation; HDAC epigenetic changes including DNA-repair gene expression.
CaveatsSlow titration dramatically reduces GI side effects and nausea. Lactic acidosis risk is real but almost always 'MALA' (metformin-associated, not metformin-caused) in patients with concurrent renal failure or contrast exposure. Not studied prospectively in healthy under-65 non-diabetics — TAME will be the first such study.
Barzilai's own account: he was prescribed metformin at pre-diabetes and started himself at 2,500 mg/day without titration; he experienced constant nausea for a month and lost significant weight. He now starts patients at 500 mg QHS and titrates slowly over weeks. The UK study used an average dose of just over 1,000 mg. The DPP (Diabetes Prevention Program) showed metformin prevents diabetes by 30%. UKPDS data show it prevents cardiovascular disease. Two Alzheimer's trials suggest improvement in name-recall domain at mild cognitive impairment stage.
Mechanism
Metformin enters cells via Oct-1 transporter (concentrated in liver but distributed widely), binds complex I of the mitochondrial electron transport chain, reduces ATP:AMP ratio, activates AMPK (a nutrient-deprivation sensor), suppresses mTOR, induces autophagy. Also directly suppresses NF-κB inflammatory pathway, reduces ROS via complex-I inhibition, and produces HDAC epigenetic changes independent of mitochondria.
Metformin is the weak cyanide... look what cyanide acted at complex four... it inhibits... there is less ROS production okay and then there is less inflammation.
Also said
“I call metformin a tool from my perspective it's just a tool to show that we can target aging because I think that there will be much better drugs and combination drugs either in the future.”— Barzilai's perspective: metformin is proof of concept, not the final answer — the goal of TAME is regulatory pathway, not this specific drug.
Quarterly 5–7 day water-only fast for IGF-1 modulation
WhatComplete water-only fast (no calories, no protein) for approximately one week, performed roughly quarterly. During the fast, Attia measures IGF-1 before and after.
WhenQuarterly, timed to not interfere with major athletic training blocks.
DoseApproximately 5–7 days water-only. Attia reports pre-fast IGF-1 of 180–200 ng/mL, dropping to 80–90 ng/mL immediately post-fast, then recovering to 140–150 ng/mL six weeks later.
For whomAttia employs this personally; appropriate context is careful physician-supervised fasting in healthy adults without contraindications. Not appropriate for underweight individuals, those with eating disorder history, or type 1 diabetics.
WhyCentenarian data show women with IGF-1 <100 ng/mL live twice as long as those with the highest levels. Dietary protein restriction reduces IGF-1, but cyclical deep suppression via fasting may provide a more robust intervention than continuous mild restriction. The hypothesis: the cycle of suppression and recovery may be more beneficial than constitutively low IGF-1.
CaveatsAttia is agnostic on whether it is better to be chronically modestly calorie-restricted (with modest IGF-1 suppression) or periodically severely calorie-restricted. The human autophagy time-course in fasting is not established; rodent data may not translate directly to humans (16-hour fast in a mouse may equal several days in humans).
Barzilai notes that the original caloric restriction studies in rats were actually closer to 23-hour daily fasting (food was given all at once and eaten immediately), which produced low IGF-1 — whereas the NIA-funded human CR study gave less food spread throughout the day and did not lower IGF-1. This distinction may explain why the animal CR results have not translated cleanly to human endpoints. Barzilai himself practices TRF: no eating from dinner until lunch the next day.
Mechanism
IGF-1 is predominantly produced by the liver in response to growth hormone stimulation. Amino acid deprivation (especially methionine and branched-chain amino acids) is the dominant dietary regulator of hepatic IGF-1 secretion. Complete fasting also activates AMPK, induces autophagy, and reduces mTOR — overlapping with metformin's mechanism.
About once a quarter I fast for a week with just water only and it has a profound impact on my IGF level... before fast right before a fast it might be 180 to 200 and right after the fast it's eighty or ninety.
Longevity gene phenotyping before committing to GH or IGF-raising interventions
WhatBefore prescribing exogenous growth hormone, test for CTEP genotype (VV vs. other), FOXO3a variants, and if possible GH receptor variants. In females, measure serum IGF-1 and contextualize against the centenarian female data showing low IGF-1 longevity advantage.
WhenAt intake of any patient requesting GH or IGF-related therapy; also relevant when evaluating low IGF-1 as a finding in older adults.
For whomParticularly important for women over 50 considering GH or peptide therapies (e.g., sermorelin, ipamorelin). In men, the evidence is less clear — no lifespan benefit from low IGF-1 was found in male centenarians or male mice.
WhyIn women, IGF-1 levels below ~100 ng/mL are associated with roughly twice the longevity in centenarian studies. Growth hormone receptor mutations that attenuate GH signaling (exon-3 deletion: 3–4% controls vs 12% centenarians) are enriched in long-lived populations. Administering exogenous GH to elderly women may antagonize a genetically-encoded longevity mechanism.
CaveatsIn men, Barzilai is not prepared to say low GH/IGF-1 is beneficial — the data are equivocal and clinical GH replacement for confirmed GH deficiency may still be appropriate. The sex difference may be mediated by inflammatory cytokine response to IGF-1 receptor blockade — females had dramatically reduced inflammation, males had increased inflammation.
Barzilai's lab published a Nature paper (approximately one month before recording) showing IGF-1 receptor antibody administration to 22-month-old female mice (human equivalent ~70–75 years) produced 10% lifespan extension, cardiovascular protection, cognitive advantage, and functional improvement. The antibody was originally developed by Amgen against cancer targets. For males, the same treatment paradoxically increased inflammatory markers and showed no lifespan benefit. The sex difference is under active investigation — likely involves sex hormone interactions with the inflammatory pathway.
Mechanism
GH → liver GH receptor → IGF-1 production → IGF-1 receptor → IRS-1/IRS-2 → PI3K → Akt → mTOR (and FOXO suppression). Attenuating any step of this pathway extends lifespan in model organisms from nematodes to mice. MicroRNA-142 (overexpressed 35-fold in 30% of centenarians) prevents phosphorylation of the IGF-1 receptor, suppressing the entire downstream cascade.
Growth hormone treatment is not beneficial it should be dangerous for elderly women with men I'm ready to say that I'm not sure you know I'm not sure it's not that I've shown that low IGF or growth hormone is better in males not in my rodent studies and not in my human studies.
Visceral fat reduction as longevity intervention — surgical proof of principle
WhatIn a rat experiment, surgical removal of visceral fat depots after puberty (not subcutaneous fat) extended lifespan by 20% versus ad-libitum-fed sham-surgery controls. The ad-libitum/visceral-fat-removed group lived longer than ad-libitum but shorter than 40% caloric restriction animals. Translational implication: aggressive visceral fat reduction through diet, exercise, and metabolic intervention is a first-tier longevity lever.
WhenApplicable as a clinical priority in any patient with measurable visceral fat (elevated waist circumference, liver fat on imaging, or high fasting insulin/triglycerides).
DoseIn rats, removal was after puberty (not before) and the benefit was approximately 20% lifespan extension vs ad-libitum; ~50% of the caloric restriction benefit.
For whomClinically relevant for all adults with visceral adiposity. The lifespan benefit was seen even with ad libitum feeding — meaning the benefit is not just from reduced caloric intake but from eliminating the inflammatory fat depot itself.
WhyVisceral fat drives chronic insulin resistance through inflammatory secretions, which chronically activates a stress-response mechanism that accelerates aging. The surgical experiment directly proved that visceral fat is causal rather than merely correlational: when removed surgically (without caloric restriction), lifespan extended and healthspan improved.
CaveatsIn animals done before puberty, visceral fat re-accumulated; the longevity effect required removal after puberty. Animals still died from the same causes (kidney disease and cancers in Sprague-Dawley rats) — just later. Insulin sensitivity was restored by the removal, confirming the mechanistic link.
The Zucker diabetic rat experiment provided the mechanistic proof: as long as visceral fat was absent, the animals did not develop diabetes — even with the leptin receptor knockout that makes them perpetually hungry. Once visceral fat re-grew (it did so in 80% of animals), diabetes developed. This cleanly demonstrated that visceral fat presence, not caloric intake alone, is the gating variable for developing the metabolic syndrome.
Mechanism
Visceral fat is an endocrine organ secreting inflammatory cytokines (TNF-α, IL-6), free fatty acids, and other signals that drive chronic insulin resistance in liver and muscle. The mechanism connecting insulin resistance to aging is the same AMPK/mTOR/FOXO pathway — chronic nutrient stress signaling that accelerates cellular aging.
I took a bunch of rats 150 actually and all of them underwent surgery after puberty in some of them I removed their visceral fat... and we had three groups... the third group was ad libitum feeding of the rats that their visceral fat was removed... they actually lived significantly longer than ad libitum by 20%.
Metformin biopsy-confirmed protocol for elderly: 6-week crossover with muscle and adipose transcriptomics
WhatIn Barzilai's 15-person clinical study, 75-year-olds were randomized to 6 weeks metformin or placebo, crossed over with a 2-week washout, then had muscle and adipose biopsies taken. Key findings: metformin changed non-metabolic genes (BRCA1, myofibril genes, DNA-repair genes) in addition to metabolic ones; upstream regulator analysis converged on AMPK, mTOR, and aging pathways; carryover effect was seen from metformin to placebo arm, suggesting effects persist beyond 2-week washout.
WhenRelevant as a clinical reference point; the carryover finding means the TAME trial requires a longer washout period than 2 weeks between drug and placebo periods.
DoseStandard metformin doses; 6 weeks of treatment.
For whomReference study for clinicians and researchers; the design principle (biopsy + transcriptomics + crossover) is the model for future human anti-aging drug studies.
WhyMost metformin data were from rodent biology; this study was designed to demonstrate the same aging-pathway target engagement in human tissue. The finding that BRCA1 and DNA-repair genes change confirms metformin acts on aging hallmarks (genomic instability) not just metabolism.
CaveatsOnly 15 subjects; muscle and adipose biopsies, not liver (the primary site of metformin action). The crossover carryover effect is both a finding of scientific interest and a methodological limitation.
The biopsy study was required because TAME's NIH reviewers challenged whether the animal biology would translate to humans. The human transcriptomic data directly addressed this concern by showing the same upstream regulatory pathway signatures (AMPK, mTOR, aging hallmarks) in human muscle and fat tissue. The finding that both tissues showed non-metabolic aging gene changes (BRCA1, myofibril genes) supports Barzilai's thesis that metformin works by fixing cellular aging directly, with metabolic improvements being downstream consequences.
We showed that most of the transcripts changes were relative to this to the tissue... in both tissues they were genes that are not metabolic genes you know like brca1 or myofibril genes and other things that are related to aging but they are not metabolic they change by metformin.
Time-restricted feeding (dinner to next-day lunch) as minimum-viable fasting protocol
WhatAvoiding eating from dinner until lunchtime the following day — approximately a 16–18 hour daily fast. Barzilai practices this personally. Attia practices TRF as well but questions whether it provides sufficient metabolic perturbation in humans compared to mice.
WhenDaily, as the minimum sustainable fasting protocol. Can be layered on top of periodic extended fasts for greater IGF-1 modulation.
Dose16–18 hours daily. Attia notes a 16-hour mouse fast may be equivalent to 3+ days in humans due to metabolic scaling.
For whomAll adults as a baseline eating-window discipline; especially relevant for those with pre-diabetes, elevated fasting insulin, or visceral fat.
WhyTRF aligns with circadian biology, reduces insulin exposure, and in animal models dramatically improves metabolic outcomes (Satchin Panda's work). Even if human TRF provides less metabolic perturbation than mouse TRF, there is no identified downside and potential benefit via alignment with circadian hormonal rhythms.
CaveatsThe autophagy time-course in humans during TRF is unknown. Barzilai's ongoing Einstein study aims to measure T-lymphocyte autophagy markers at multiple time points during human fasting to establish how long fasting is needed to achieve meaningful autophagy induction in humans.
I'm trying not to eat after dinner until like lunchtime the next day so but do you really mean so first of all how hard is it to get an IRB at Einstein to study this.
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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TAME trial: FDA approving aging as a disease target for the first time
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The TAME (Targeting Aging with MEtformin) trial is a 3,000-subject, 14-center, 5–6 year randomized placebo-controlled trial in people 65–80 years old, powered at 90% to detect a 22% reduction in a composite of cardiovascular disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, mortality, and diabetes. Its primary goal is not just to show metformin works — it is to get the FDA to grant an indication for aging itself, opening regulatory pathways for all future anti-aging drugs.
Why this matters: No drug has ever been approved for the indication of aging. TAME represents an attempt to change the regulatory paradigm so that slowing aging can be a therapeutic endpoint rather than a proxy for individual diseases.
Background
Aging is not currently recognized by the FDA as a disease state or an approvable indication. Without that, no company can get a drug approved to target aging; they can only target its consequences (heart disease, cancer, etc.) one at a time, each requiring a separate massive trial.
Barzilai and colleagues — including Steve Austad as co-scientific director at the American Federation for Aging Research (AFAR) — spent years at NIH and FDA making the case that aging can be targeted. The FDA told them: design a study that shows you can delay a cluster of age-related diseases simultaneously, and we will listen. The composite endpoint was the solution: because once you survive one age-related disease, your risk of getting the others is about 10% each — disease-agnostic, it doesn't matter which comes first. TAME uses 1,500 mg/day of metformin (Merck GmbH providing matched placebo). The 70-million-dollar budget is split between NIA and private philanthropy through AFAR; NCI and NHLBI have indicated interest in co-funding. Enrollment target: early 2019.
TAME stands for targeting aging with metformin and it's a study that's designed to prove the concept that aging can be targeted but also or mainly for me is for the FDA to give an approval to an indication that's like aging the first time.
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“We basically came and we said we'll do a study and what we're going to see is cardiovascular disease and cancer and Alzheimer's mortality and diabetes... the FDA is not interested in diabetes.”— Shows the FDA explicitly wanted the composite aging endpoint, not individual disease endpoints — a key design insight.
Metformin gave diabetic patients 17% lower mortality than matched non-diabetic controls
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A UK database study matching 78,000 newly-diagnosed type 2 diabetics on metformin monotherapy to 78,000 non-diabetic controls — same pharmacies, same doctors — found the metformin group had 17% lower all-cause mortality over 5 years, despite being heavier and having more comorbidities at baseline. This was the pivotal human signal that made Barzilai move toward TAME.
Why this matters: The group with the disease and the drug outsurvived the healthy group with neither — one of the most counterintuitive findings in modern epidemiology, pointing to a genuine anti-aging effect rather than just diabetes management.
Background
The study was made possible by the UK's NHS system, which allows linkage of pharmacy prescription records to mortality outcomes at the population level.
The sulfonylurea arm of the same study showed higher mortality than non-diabetic controls — consistent with the hypothesis that it is metformin's anti-aging properties, not just glucose lowering, that drove the mortality benefit. The dose in the metformin group averaged over 1,000 mg. Barzilai notes the study was not stratified by dose, which he regards as a missed opportunity. Duration of metformin use could not be well characterized either, since only newly-diagnosed patients were enrolled.
78,000 on metformin in 78,000 people who were non-diabetic again matching them and the 78,000 on metformin... had significant less mortality 17% less mortality in the metformin group.
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“So if you get less mortality with metformin when the set up is diabetes, that really shows that metformin has a very important effect in humans as far as aging.”— Barzilai's own framing of why this study was his tipping-point for pursuing TAME.
Barzilai's longevity-genes project found that more than 60% of Ashkenazi centenarians carry functional mutations in the growth hormone / IGF-1 signaling pathway, including: a growth hormone receptor exon-3 deletion (3–4% controls vs. 12% centenarians, replicated in Amish, French, and CHS cohorts); clusters of IGF receptor mutations (2% of centenarians); and microRNA-142 overexpressed 35-fold (30% of centenarians). The effect is strongly female-specific: centenarian women with the lowest IGF-1 levels live roughly twice as long as those with the highest. In men, the data are equivocal.
Why this matters: Provides the first human genetic evidence that attenuated IGF-1 signaling extends lifespan — confirming what has been shown in nematodes, flies, and mice — and raises urgent questions about whether exogenous growth hormone is harmful for aging women.
Background
The paradox that launched this work: in C. elegans, reducing the insulin/IGF receptor (daf-2) produces fat accumulation AND longer life, which seemed to contradict the clinical observation that visceral fat causes disease. Resolution: insulin resistance is a protective cellular stress response, not a cause of aging per se — and the relevant signal in centenarians is genetic attenuation of the receptor, not obesity.
The IGF receptor antibody (originally developed by Amgen for cancer) was tested in 22-month-old female mice (equivalent to ~70–75 years in humans). It extended lifespan by 10%, dramatically improved healthspan (cardiovascular, cognitive, functional markers), and reduced inflammatory markers. The antibody does not cross the blood-brain barrier, so peripheral IGF activity was reduced while central IGF-1 levels may have risen — consistent with the hypothesis that you want low peripheral IGF but preserved central IGF for neuroprotection. The same study did not show lifespan benefit in males, possibly because males had paradoxically increased inflammatory markers with the treatment.
We identified you know more than 60% and I think I'm under estimating okay it's more it's probably more... the most common genomic alteration in our centenarians.
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“Those with the lowest igf-1 level leave twice as long those are already two centenarians but only women men do not in every example that I gave you there's a sex difference.”— The female-specific nature of the low-IGF longevity effect is one of the most clinically important findings — directly relevant to the growth hormone debate in aging medicine.
“Growth hormone treatment is not beneficial it should be dangerous for elderly women with men I'm ready to say that I'm not sure.”— Barzilai's clinical bottom line on exogenous GH, derived from the combined genetic, animal, and functional data.
CTEP VV genotype concentrates in centenarians: 8% at age 55 to 20% at age 100
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The CTEP VV (cholesteryl ester transfer protein, valine-valine) variant — associated with higher HDL, larger lipoprotein particle size, and lower CTEP activity — rises from 8% of the population at age 55 to 20% at age 100, showing cross-sectional enrichment consistent with a survival advantage. CTEP VV is also the longevity gene that protects centenarians who carry high-LPA genotypes from the atherogenic consequences of LPA.
Why this matters: Explains why pharmacological CTEP inhibition trials (which raise HDL cholesterol) fail while the natural CTEP VV variant is protective — it is about functional HDL particles and gene-gene interactions with LPA, not raw HDL cholesterol numbers.
Background
The LPA paradox: LPA is atherogenic and kills people, yet centenarians have more of it. Resolution: those centenarians are almost exclusively CTEP VV carriers — the longevity gene interaction neutralizes the LPA risk.
Barzilai's team showed this through gene-to-gene interaction analysis using computational biology methods: centenarians with the 'bad' LPA genotype who survived to 100 were overwhelmingly also CTEP VV homozygous. CTEP VV phenotype: higher HDL, larger lipoprotein particle size, lower CTEP levels, cognitive protection. The CTEP VV genotype also increases after age 80 in a monotonic fashion — the biostatistical signature that indicates the genotype is conferring a survival advantage rather than being a marker of accelerated aging.
At 55 it's 8% of the population and at a hundred it's 20% of the population so it's also important to know that not first of all the 8% the tariff vivir I don't know how many of them will be centenarians right and also not all centenarians are Vivi but it's really still very impressive.
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“This CTP has been protective against several age-related disease the most dramatic is cognitive decline.”— The cognitive protection from CTEP VV is one of the most actionable aspects — relevant to Alzheimer's prevention strategies.
Centenarian offspring: half the diseases of controls, aging visibly slower at 10-year follow-up
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Barzilai's longitudinal Longevity Genes Project follows the children of Ashkenazi centenarians and matched controls. After 10 years of follow-up, offspring of centenarians show half the disease rates of controls at matched ages — and at the cross-sectional level are 'equal everywhere' except for their disease burden. This resolves the measurement problem: centenarians at 100 years old are phenotypically unusual (30% will die that year), but their offspring in their 60s and 70s have the longevity phenotype cleanly.
Why this matters: Demonstrates that exceptional longevity is heritable and measurable in midlife — opening the door to preventive interventions targeted at those who carry the longevity genetics.
The offspring approach corrects the survivor bias problem: if you measure a biomarker in a 100-year-old, you don't know if you're measuring what helped them survive or what's contributing to their imminent death. The offspring at age 65 have the relevant phenotype without that ambiguity. Forty-four centenarians who underwent whole-genome sequencing were found to carry a total of more than 230 known pathogenic mutations from the ClinVar database — mutations that 'should' have caused diseases including Parkinson's, cancer, and APOE4-linked dementia. None had those diseases at 100 years old, suggesting the longevity gene network actively suppresses penetrance of disease-causing variants.
Their offspring are equal everywhere to our control group they just have half of the diseases although you by the way that's a really interesting point near I never once thought of that.
Insulin resistance as a protective cellular stress response — not a disease cause
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Barzilai's lab showed that surgically removing visceral fat from adult rats (after puberty) extended their lifespan by 20% versus ad-libitum-fed controls with intact visceral fat — achieving half the benefit of caloric restriction. The paradox from nematode data (where reducing the insulin receptor extends life) was resolved: insulin resistance in muscle is a protective mechanism against glucose overload, not a primary cause of aging. Visceral fat secretes inflammatory signals that chronically trigger this stress response.
Why this matters: Reframes insulin resistance as a symptom of metabolic stress rather than a root cause — with visceral fat as the primary driver — which changes how we think about metformin's mechanism and about who benefits from interventions.
Background
The 1997 Kenyon paper showing daf-2 (insulin receptor) mutations extend nematode lifespan by 100%+ while producing visceral fat accumulation seemed to contradict everything Barzilai was working on — his JCI paper was in press at the same time showing caloric restriction reduces visceral fat.
The resolution: insulin resistance is the muscle's way of pushing glucose elsewhere when glycogen is full — a physiological overflow valve. When this protective response becomes chronic because of constant visceral-fat-driven inflammation, it becomes pathological. The evolutionary conserved nature of this pathway explains why both CR (reducing visceral fat) and GH/IGF-1 pathway mutations (reducing IGF-1 signaling) extend lifespan: they both reduce signaling through this stress-response pathway.
Insulin resistant is a protective mechanism. It's a modulator. It's a stress response. It's something. So now I understand why a stress response mechanism in one animal cause them to live longer and in another animal it's a pain in the ass.
NMN improves sleep architecture: more deep sleep early, more REM late in the night
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Barzilai reports that since starting NMN supplementation he has observed improved sleep architecture on wearable monitoring — more deep sleep in the first part of the night and more REM in the latter part — a pattern independently described to him by a researcher in St. Louis who ran 200 subjects on NMN. Barzilai cautions this is observational and not clinical-trial quality evidence.
Why this matters: One of the few concrete human phenotypic observations around NMN/NR supplementation; independently corroborated in a separate 200-person observational dataset.
Background
The bioavailability of oral NMN and NR is contested — Rabinowitz's tracer study suggested most NR is catabolized to nicotinamide in the liver before reaching tissues; Barzilai notes that paper was also criticized for methodological issues.
Barzilai's practical position on NAD precursors: clinical studies are needed before confident recommendations. His concern about IV NAD is that it probably does not cross cell membranes efficiently either. His preferred future approach: sublingual or intravenous delivery of NR or NMN to bypass first-pass hepatic metabolism. The NAD-HDAC connection is relevant to metformin's mechanism: metformin inhibits complex I, which reduces NAD:NADH ratio, which in turn affects sirtuin activity — a potential overlap between the metformin and NAD precursor pathways.
Since I started taking NMN... my sleep has been much better that means I in the beginning of the night I have much more deep sleep and then the end of the night I have much more REM.
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“He tells me what I've noticed and it makes me just think and maybe believe in maybe hope that something is getting into the cells yeah and that there's a real effect at least on sleep.”— The independent replication in 200 subjects — described to Barzilai unprompted — strengthens the signal without constituting proof.
Metformin activates autophagy as well or better than fasting in cell models
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Anna Maria Cuervo at Einstein uses metformin as a positive control to activate autophagy in cell assays — it activates autophagy as reliably as nutrient deprivation in vitro. This extends the mechanistic picture: metformin mimics caloric restriction at the cellular level not just via AMPK/mTOR suppression but through direct autophagy induction, potentially explaining much of its anti-aging phenotype.
Why this matters: Connects metformin's mechanism to the autophagy pillar of aging biology — one of the most evolutionarily conserved longevity pathways — and raises the question of whether the 'B-student' mechanism is actually a coordinated hit on multiple aging pillars simultaneously.
Barzilai's 15-person crossover biopsy study (75-year-olds, 6 weeks metformin vs placebo, then crossed over) found changes in BRCA1, myofibril genes, and DNA-repair genes — not just metabolic genes — in both muscle and adipose tissue. When the transcriptomic data were analyzed via upstream regulator tools, all pathways converged on AMPK, mTOR, and aging-specific targets, confirming that the downstream tissue effects are secondary to fixing cellular aging, not the primary mechanism.
Metformin activates a tough OG really well okay so that's it I'm talking about in vitro assays.
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Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode
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OURA / WHOOP or equivalent wearable sleep tracking for NMN/NR monitoring
Tool
Barzilai monitors sleep architecture (deep sleep early in night, REM late in night) as a proxy outcome for NMN supplementation. He observed improved deep sleep and REM patterns after starting NMN, consistent with an independent report from a St. Louis researcher running 200 subjects.
Until clinical trials of NMN are completed, sleep architecture monitoring is one of the few practical tools for individuals to track whether NMN supplementation is having any subjective effect. Barzilai emphasizes this is not controlled evidence — he acknowledges it could be vacation timing, seasonal variation, or other confounders. His preferred controlled design: stop NMN, see if sleep degrades; restart, see if it improves.
Since I started taking NMN... my sleep has been much better that means I in the beginning of the night I have much more deep sleep and then the end of the night I have much more REM.
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) — cautious personal use pending clinical trials
Supplement
Barzilai personally takes NMN and uses it as a positive control for autophagy induction in his lab's cell assays (through Anna Maria Cuervo's collaboration). His current view: the evidence is insufficient to recommend it clinically, but the sleep signal and the preclinical data justify personal use while awaiting trials.
The NR vs NMN debate: Barzilai does not have a strong preference; he notes both are NAD precursors, NMN may be slightly more stable, but neither has been shown definitively to raise intracellular NAD in target tissues in humans. The Rabinowitz tracer study suggested most orally administered NR is catabolized to nicotinamide in the liver. Barzilai's hypothesis for why NR/NMN might work despite this: sublingual or IV delivery might bypass hepatic first-pass metabolism and allow tissue delivery. His preferred future approach: treat it as a drug development problem requiring pharmacokinetic optimization, not supplement formulation.
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IV NAD is popular but Barzilai does not believe it reaches intracellular targets efficiently either; sublingual NR or NMN is his preferred future delivery route to bypass first-pass metabolism.
I'm taking a good preparation of NMN okay... and one of the things that... my sleep has been much better... he tells me what I've noticed and it makes me just think and maybe believe in maybe hope that something is getting into the cells.
TAME Trial Enrollment (Albert Einstein / AFAR, 14 US centers)
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The TAME trial is the first prospective randomized controlled trial testing metformin for aging prevention in non-diabetic adults aged 65–80. 3,000 subjects, 14 US centers, 1:1 randomization metformin vs placebo, composite endpoint of CVD/cancer/Alzheimer's/mortality/diabetes, 90% power, 5–6 year follow-up. The trial received 3,000 volunteer inquiries from a single Wall Street Journal article.
DisclosureBarzilai is the principal investigator and AFAR scientific director for the TAME trial; he has a direct scientific and institutional interest in enrollment.
Barzilai emphasizes that the trial serves two purposes: (1) generate definitive evidence that metformin extends healthspan in non-diabetic elderly, and (2) establish regulatory precedent for aging as an approvable FDA indication. The trial deliberately chose not to stop early even if one endpoint shows benefit — the full composite must be demonstrated to make the aging-indication argument to the FDA. Half the budget (~$35 million) is funded by AFAR philanthropically; the other half awaits NIA and institute co-funding.
vs alternatives
No other trial is currently designed to get FDA approval for aging as an indication; TAME is the only pathway currently open toward legitimizing longevity pharmacology as a regulated medical field.
3,000 age 65 to 80 any limitation on comorbidities no in fact we'll there are a lot of limitations we're very inclusive... one to one and the placebo versus what dose of metformin two grams 1500.
The National Geographic documentary 'The Age of Aging' directed by Ron Howard
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A documentary following Barzilai, Austad, and colleagues as they propose the TAME trial design to the FDA. Narrated by Ron Howard. Barzilai describes it as 'the best movie that was done ever on aging.'
DisclosureBarzilai and Steve Austad appear in the film; Barzilai accompanied the group to the FDA meeting that is featured in it.
The film documents the pivotal FDA meeting where Barzilai and colleagues argued that aging can be targeted and should receive a regulatory indication. The film was available on National Geographic at the time of recording. It provides a narrative companion to the scientific content of this episode.
It's called the age of aging it's National Geographic it's the best movie that was done ever on aging it's really quite incredible Ron Howard is narrating it.
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78,000 on metformin in 78,000 people who were non-diabetic again matching them and... had significant less mortality 17% less mortality in the metformin group.
The single most counterintuitive and powerful human datum in the entire episode: people with a disease taking a drug outlived matched healthy people taking nothing.
Insulin resistant is a protective mechanism. It's a modulator. It's a stress response. It's something. So now I understand why a stress response mechanism in one animal cause them to live longer and in another animal it's a pain in the ass.
Resolves the nematode paradox and reframes insulin resistance as an adaptive cellular response rather than a root cause of aging — with major implications for metabolic medicine.
Growth hormone treatment is not beneficial it should be dangerous for elderly women with men I'm ready to say that I'm not sure.
The sharpest clinical bottom-line on exogenous GH from the world's leading expert in longevity genetics — particularly striking given the widespread clinical use of GH peptides and secretagogues.
TAME stands for targeting aging with metformin and it's a study that's designed to prove the concept that aging can be targeted but also or mainly for me is for the FDA to give an approval to an indication that's like aging the first time.
Frames the true ambition of TAME: not just testing metformin, but breaking open the FDA's regulatory framework to allow aging itself to be treated as an approvable indication.
Their offspring are equal everywhere to our control group they just have half of the diseases.
The cleanest single-sentence summary of what exceptional longevity genetics actually buys: not immunity from disease, but dramatically delayed onset of exactly the same diseases everyone else gets.
I call metformin a tool from my perspective it's just a tool to show that we can target aging because I think that there will be much better drugs and combination drugs either in the future.
Places TAME and metformin in their proper historical perspective: a proof-of-concept wedge to open the aging-intervention regulatory pathway, not the endpoint.
The cost of dying after 100 was third of that of dying in 70 so it's not only in our study there is actually evidence... to suggest that the medical... compressed morbidity.
The 'longevity dividend' argument in its most concrete form: living longer and healthier actually reduces total medical costs — inverting the assumption that longevity medicine will bankrupt healthcare systems.
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