Alek Lwow reveals that in 1988, Maciej Berbeka only reached the foresummit of Broad Peak, not the main summit, and expedition leader Andrzej Zawada knowingly sent a false success report to the media, never correcting it.
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Lwow argues that the 'K2 for Poles' slogan was arrogant; mountains should be for the best climbers, not a single nation, and that modern internet access in base camp destroys the motivation ('spręż') needed for hard ascents.
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He provides a stark rule: climbers over 50 should not attempt 8000m peaks in winter, over 60 should avoid 7000m peaks, and over 70 should stop sport climbing altogether—citing Maciej Berbeka's death at 59 as proof.
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Despite the commercialization of Everest, Lwow points out that 8 independent 8000-meter peaks remain unclimbed in winter, offering genuine challenge for ambitious climbers who are willing to suffer without media glory.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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Never exceed the agreed turnaround time
WhatStick to the pre-agreed turnaround time, no matter how close the summit appears. If you haven't summited by that hour, descend immediately.
WhenDuring any summit push, especially in winter or when bivouac gear is not carried.
DoseSet a specific hour (e.g., 7:00 PM) before leaving base camp.
For whomAll high-altitude climbers, especially on 8000m peaks.
WhyPushing beyond the turnaround time leads to benightment without proper gear, exhaustion, and death. The 'magic of the summit' clouds judgment.
CaveatsHypoxia impairs decision-making; the rule must be ironclad and non-negotiable.
Lwow emphasizes that planning in base camp is easy, but at altitude the nearness of the summit creates an overwhelming urge to continue. He cites the 2013 Broad Peak tragedy where the team ignored their turnaround time, and the 1988 incident where Berbeka continued alone after Lwow turned back. He believes that if the rule is broken, the climber is effectively gambling with death. The protocol is not just about time, but about pre-committing to a decision when the mind is still clear.
Mechanism
Long-term oxygen deprivation impairs the brain's ability to assess risk and make rational decisions, making pre-set rules essential.
Personal experience
Lwow turned back at 7800m on Broad Peak in 1988 at 3:30 PM with a storm approaching, while Berbeka continued. He believes Berbeka would have died if he hadn't waited for him.
Sitting in base camp it's easy to say: 'Gentlemen, if we don't reach the summit by 7:00, we have to turn back, because later we would have to bivouac, and as we know, we can't bivouac, because we won't have the gear and it will be very cold, because it's winter.'
Also said
“Breaking the rule is when you cross those agreed-upon limits while up there. And you cross them because of the magic of the summit visible almost within arm's reach...”— Explains the psychological trap that the rule is designed to counter.
Descend immediately after the first team member summits
WhatOnce the first person in a group reaches the summit, the entire team should turn around and begin descending together, regardless of who has or hasn't summited.
WhenDuring group summit pushes on high peaks, especially in winter or late in the day.
DoseImmediate, no further upward progress.
For whomExpedition teams on 8000m peaks.
WhyThe mountain is already 'conquered'; continuing only increases exposure to objective dangers (darkness, weather, exhaustion) for no additional gain.
CaveatsRequires strong leadership and pre-agreed discipline; climbers may resist due to personal ambition.
Lwow applies this specifically to the 2013 Broad Peak disaster. Adam Bielecki summited first, but the other three continued, leading to the deaths of Berbeka and Tomasz Kowalski. Lwow argues that the moment Bielecki stood on top, the objective was achieved, and the only rational move was for everyone to descend. This protocol is an extension of the turnaround time rule, adding a collective responsibility: the summit is not a personal trophy but a team objective.
In a situation where the first of four, namely Adam Bielecki, reached the top, conquered the summit, the mountain was defeated, conquered, then at that moment all four should have turned back and started descending.
Also said
“Why? Because it was very, very late.”— The simple, deadly reason.
Probe for crevasses with a long pole on snow descents
WhatWhen descending a glacier or snowfield alone in whiteout conditions after fresh snowfall, use a 2–2.5m aluminum pole (e.g., a tent mast) to probe the snow ahead for hidden crevasses.
WhenSolo descent on a glacier with no visible tracks and fresh snow covering crevasses.
DoseContinuously probe every step.
For whomSolo climbers in glaciated terrain without rope teams.
WhyFresh snow hides crevasses; a pole can detect a void before you step into it, and may act as a safety bar if you fall through.
CaveatsDoes not guarantee safety; only works for smaller crevasses. Still extremely dangerous.
Lwow describes his 1986 solo descent from Camp 2 on Everest after a two-day snowstorm. He was the only person on the entire mountain. The Japanese expedition had left, taking their ladders and fixed ropes. He scavenged an aluminum pole from their abandoned camp and used it to probe the Western Cwm, which he knew was crisscrossed with hidden crevasses. He also had to navigate the Khumbu Icefall alone, using homemade bamboo wands he had placed on the way up. This protocol is born from a life-or-death improvisation.
Mechanism
The pole hits the snow bridge; if there's no resistance, a crevasse is likely. If the climber falls, the pole may span the gap and arrest the fall.
Personal experience
Lwow used this exact method to survive his solo descent from 6700m on Everest in 1986, calling it his 'craftsmanship'.
In the garbage dump left by the Japanese, I dug out an aluminum pole about two or 2.5 m long, which was probably the mast of the mess tent... Equipped with this pole, I walked more or less along the route I thought I had come, although there was no trace... poking the snow in front of me with this pole, hoping that if I hit a void, I would know there was a crevasse.
Also said
“Besides, it seemed to me that if I had such a pole under my arm, even if I fell into a crevasse, if it wasn't too big, I would stop on this rail, let's say, this pole.”— The secondary safety rationale.
Place personal markers through icefalls
WhatOn the way up through an icefall, place small, lightweight markers (e.g., bamboo sticks with short ribbons) at regular intervals to mark the route for the descent.
WhenWhen ascending a complex, shifting icefall like the Khumbu, especially if fixed ropes and ladders may be removed by other teams.
DoseEvery few hundred meters or at every critical turn.
For whomSmall teams or solo climbers in icefalls without fixed infrastructure.
WhyIcefalls change constantly; the route up may not be obvious on the way down, especially in bad weather or darkness. Markers provide a reliable path back.
CaveatsMarkers can be moved or toppled by ice movement; still requires route-finding skills.
Lwow prepared these markers before leaving base camp on Everest in 1986, anticipating that the Japanese team would remove their ladders and ropes. He placed them on the ascent through the Khumbu Icefall. On the descent, he found some markers now sticking out of overturned ice blocks, vividly demonstrating the glacier's movement. This simple, low-tech protocol saved his life when he was alone, exhausted, and carrying a heavy pack.
Mechanism
Visual cues reduce cognitive load and prevent fatal wrong turns in a labyrinth of seracs and crevasses.
Personal experience
Lwow used homemade bamboo wands with short ribbons on his 1986 Everest solo descent. He credits them with his survival.
Before leaving base camp, I prepared a bunch of such tiny route markers, my little bamboo sticks with a short ribbon, and going through the Icefall... I placed these bamboo sticks along the route, and this largely facilitated my survival.
Also said
“Several of these bamboo sticks later, during the descent, I found not driven into the horizontal surface I was walking on, but in a block of ice overturned by this movement and driven into a vertical wall. This only showed me firsthand how this icefall lives.”— Illustrates the dynamic danger of icefalls and why markers are essential.
Weigh down the tent with your body in a storm
WhatDuring a severe storm at high altitude, hang on the tent's frame and use your body weight to press the tent down, preventing it from being lifted and torn away by wind.
WhenWhen inside a tent during hurricane-force winds that threaten to uproot it.
DoseAs long as the wind gusts persist.
For whomAnyone in a high-altitude tent in extreme wind.
WhyAerodynamic lift can rip a tent from its anchors; body weight counteracts this.
CaveatsRequires staying awake and physically active; exhausting over long periods.
Lwow describes doing this at 7300m on Broad Peak while waiting 24 hours for Berbeka. The wind repeatedly lifted the tent, and he imagined being hurled into the abyss. He hung on the frame, pressing it down, and noted that in such a situation, with no alternative, fear disappeared. This protocol is a survival reflex born of necessity.
Mechanism
Wind flowing over the tent creates low pressure above, generating lift. Adding mass lowers the tent's profile and increases friction with the ground.
Personal experience
Lwow did this for hours during the storm on Broad Peak in 1988, and it was during this ordeal that he experienced the absence of fear he later wrote about.
I sat watching as the wind, with successive gusts, lifted the tent up repeatedly, as if trying to tear it away. ... hanging on the frame of this tent, weighing it down with my entire body weight to press it down to the ground, there was no fear in me.
Always check if you hear a call in a storm
WhatIf you hear a voice calling outside during a storm, even if you suspect it's a hallucination, unzip the tent and check with a light. Repeat if necessary.
WhenWhen waiting for a missing partner in a whiteout or storm.
DoseCheck at least twice before dismissing.
For whomAnyone in a tent awaiting a partner's return in bad weather.
WhyExhaustion and hypoxia can cause auditory hallucinations, but it might also be a real partner in distress. Missing it means death for them.
CaveatsOpening the tent lets in cold and snow; brief checks only.
Lwow was in his tent at 7300m when he heard Berbeka's calls. He initially thought it was a hallucination, but checked twice. On the second check, he saw Berbeka's faint light and guided him in. He believes that without this action, Berbeka would have walked past the tent and fallen into the abyss. This protocol is a simple but critical habit: trust your ears enough to verify, even when your brain doubts.
Personal experience
Lwow's own experience saving Berbeka's life in 1988.
By a miracle, lying in my sleeping bag with the hood of my down jacket pulled over my head, I heard his call and of course, the moment I heard the call, it seemed to me that these were hallucinations, that I was imagining it, nevertheless I unzipped the tent, shone a light into that hell outside and saw nothing, crawled back into the sleeping bag, settled down and again heard a call. Again I leaned outside, shone a light into the darkness and saw a light, the faint light of Berbeka, who was wandering nearby.
Prepare water for a returning partner
WhatIf you are in a tent while your partner is still out, melt snow and have at least one liter of water ready for them when they arrive.
WhenDuring a summit push when one climber returns earlier and the other is still out.
DoseAt least 1 liter of water.
For whomThe partner who returns first.
WhyThe returning climber will be severely dehydrated and possibly unable to melt snow themselves due to exhaustion or lack of fuel.
CaveatsRequires having fuel or a stove; in Lwow's case, he had no gas left but had saved melted water.
Lwow had saved one liter of melted snow water for Berbeka, despite having no fuel to make more. He and Berbeka had gone without food and water for many hours. This small act of preparation was a lifeline. It's a protocol of care and foresight in an environment where small oversights kill.
Mechanism
Rehydration is critical for recovery and preventing frostbite and altitude sickness.
Personal experience
Lwow did this for Berbeka in 1988.
There I had a liter of liquid prepared for him. Because as usual in such situations, there was no more gas, nothing to cook with, no water. We hadn't eaten, hadn't drunk. For dozens of hours I had in my sleeping bag only a melted liter of snow in the form of water for him, for Maciek.
Keep a detailed expedition journal
WhatMaintain a handwritten notebook during the expedition, recording daily conditions, events, and observations.
WhenThroughout the expedition, especially during long waits in base camp.
DoseDaily entries.
For whomAny expedition member.
WhyCombats boredom, creates an accurate record for later analysis, and helps maintain mental discipline.
Lwow mentions that out of boredom during the 85-day winter K2 expedition, he kept very detailed notes in a notebook. He later used these notes to recall that only 14 days were clear, and never two in a row. This practice not only preserved valuable data but also provided a mental anchor during the monotonous suffering of a long winter expedition.
Personal experience
Lwow kept a notebook during the winter K2 expedition and used it to recall specifics decades later.
During those 85 days that I spent, I in base camp, that is the most of everyone, not counting Krzysztof Wielicki, and during those 85 days I speak based on my very detailed notes, because out of boredom I scribbled in a notebook.
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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The truth about Berbeka's 1988 Broad Peak 'summit' and Zawada's cover-up
Lwow details how Maciej Berbeka mistakenly thought he summited Broad Peak in 1988, but actually stopped at the foresummit (Rocky Summit). Expedition leader Andrzej Zawada knew this immediately, yet sent a false success report to the world and never corrected it, likely to justify the expedition's huge cost after failing on K2.
Why this matters: This is a first-hand account from the only other climber on the mountain, revealing a deliberate decades-long deception at the heart of Polish Himalayan history.
Background
The 1988 Polish winter K2 expedition was a massive national undertaking. After failing on K2, the team turned to Broad Peak as a consolation objective. Berbeka and Lwow made a summit push without ropes, effectively as two soloists. Berbeka continued alone after Lwow turned back due to late hour and approaching storm.
Lwow describes how he waited 24 hours in a tent at 7300m during a ferocious storm for Berbeka to return. Berbeka, disoriented and exhausted, believed he had reached the main summit. When he radioed base, someone in the background quietly said 'He is on the foresummit,' but Zawada congratulated him and never mentioned the truth. Lwow only learned of the mistake from Krzysztof Wielicki after they reunited. Zawada immediately sent a global radio message that Broad Peak had been conquered, and never corrected it. Lwow suspects Zawada did this because the expedition cost half a million to a million dollars and needed a success to show for it. Lwow was the first to publicly reveal the truth, three months later, in a small climbing magazine. He believes Zawada's failure to correct the record was a deliberate lie, not an oversight.
Personal experience
Lwow was the one who waited for Berbeka, guided him to the tent with his light, and later led the descent. He overheard Wielicki whisper the truth and later wrote the revealing article.
Zawada immediately, before Berbeka even returned to the tent where I was waiting, sent a radio message around the world that Broad Peak had been conquered, that the conqueror was Maciej Berbeka, and never, never corrected, never specified that it was about Broad Peak. Rocky Summit.
Also said
“In the background, very quietly, but very clearly, you can hear someone standing next to him. I suspect it was Leszek Cichy, but that's not important. He is on the foresummit. This is proof that the base, at the moment he reports from the alleged summit, knows perfectly well that he is not on the main summit.”— Confirms that the base camp team knew instantly that Berbeka was not on the true summit.
“My theory is that in the heat of the moment, Andrzej Zawada released an imprecise, false report that Broad Peak had fallen. ... perhaps because this expedition cost Andrzej, firstly, a lot of money that he had to organize.”— Lwow's theory on why Zawada lied and never corrected it.
Internet in base camp destroys the 'spręż' (motivational spring)
Lwow claims that having WiFi and unlimited internet in base camp fatally weakens climbers' mental focus ('spręż'), because they remain mentally connected to life back home instead of fully committing to the mountain.
Why this matters: A contrarian, old-school view that directly blames modern connectivity for the failure of the 2017 Polish national winter K2 expedition.
Background
The 2017 expedition was heavily media-covered and equipped with internet. Lwow observed this and predicted failure unless the weather was exceptionally favorable.
Lwow explains that 'spręż' is the climber's internal drive, a state of being 'on fire' and fully committed to the summit, not thinking about return. He argues that constant communication with family, friends, and social media via internet keeps the mind on the lowlands, not on the mountain. This mental split makes it impossible to endure the suffering required for a difficult winter ascent. He suggests that even limiting internet to one hour a day might have preserved some of that drive, but unlimited access was a critical mistake. He contrasts this with his own generation, who had no contact with the outside world for months and thus were forced to focus entirely on the objective.
Personal experience
Lwow says that when he learned the 2017 team had WiFi, he was almost certain they would fail, because he knows from his own expeditions that mental detachment from the lowlands is essential.
When I found out that the boys had WiFi and internet in base camp, I was almost certain they wouldn't make it, because someone who lives sitting in base camp, lives what is happening in the lowlands, in homes, in families, with girlfriends, wives, children, is not mentally prepared to climb the mountain in such harsh conditions.
Also said
“Someone who is not set on conquering with their whole body and whole mind will not reach the summit. So this symbolically treated internet was an element weakening the spręż.”— Directly links internet to the loss of the necessary mental state.
Age limits for high-altitude climbing
Lwow states a firm rule: no 8000m peaks in winter after 50, no 7000m peaks after 60, and stop sport climbing entirely after 70. He cites Maciej Berbeka's death at 59 on Broad Peak as tragic proof.
Why this matters: A blunt, physiologically-grounded rule from a veteran who edited a mountaineering magazine and tracked global accident data.
Background
Berbeka returned to Broad Peak in winter 2013 at age 59, 25 years after his first attempt, and died during the descent after summiting. Lwow had previously climbed with him in 1988.
Lwow argues that physiology is unforgiving, even for the world's best climbers. He had a head full of data from his decade as editor of 'Góry i Alpinizm' showing that climbers over 50 perish in situations they would have survived when younger. He believes Berbeka should never have gone, and that his death was a direct consequence of ignoring these age-related limits. He also criticizes the decision-making on that 2013 climb: the team had agreed on a turnaround time, but ignored it; after the first climber summited, the rest should have descended immediately instead of continuing, which led to tragedy.
Personal experience
Lwow was Berbeka's partner in 1988 and felt that Berbeka's decision to go again at 59 was incomprehensible. He initially thought Berbeka was going just to take photos and reminisce.
I will never understand why Maciej went to the mountain again 25 years after our first joint attempt, at the age of 59. And it is known that physiology is unforgiving for the world's best climbers.
Also said
“Above 50, a normal person should not climb 8000m peaks at all, especially in winter. Above 60, they should give up 7000m peaks, and above 70, they should stop sport climbing in the mountains altogether.”— The explicit age rule.
“Maciej went there and by what happened later proved that this thesis of mine just stated is true.”— He sees Berbeka's death as validation of the rule.
Eight independent 8000m peaks still unclimbed in winter
While all 14 main 8000ers have been climbed in winter, Lwow points out there are 22 independent 8000m peaks, and 8 of them—like Yalung Kang and Lhotse Shar—remain unclimbed in winter, offering true challenge for ambitious climbers.
Why this matters: Shifts the narrative that winter Himalayan climbing is 'finished' and provides a concrete list of undone objectives that require suffering without media glory.
Background
After the first winter ascent of K2 in 2021, many assumed the era of winter 8000m firsts was over. Lwow corrects this by distinguishing between the 14 main summits and the 22 independent peaks.
Lwow explains that the reason no one attempts these peaks is that they lack media recognition. The general public doesn't know names like Yalung Kang, so there is no fame or sponsorship payoff. He contrasts this with the crowds on Everest, where people queue for hours just to 'tick a box'. He argues that true alpinists seeking a genuine challenge should target these forgotten giants, but modern climbers are unwilling to suffer without the reward of social media attention. This is a direct critique of the commercialization and Instagram-driven motivation in contemporary mountaineering.
In the Crown of the Himalayas, as we know, there are 14 main 8000m peaks, but there are 22 independent 8000m peaks. And apart from these 14 main ones, eight mighty mountains await being climbed as first in winter.
Also said
“And no, because in our era people tick off Everest in a wild crowd, but no one wants to suffer. No one wants to suffer, because the response, the echo of such a feat on social media would be negligible or none.”— Explains why these peaks remain unclimbed: lack of social media payoff.
Alpinism as a craft, not an art; dying means losing
Lwow insists that mountaineering is a craft (rzemiosło) perfected over years, not an art. He recounts a Soviet coach's maxim: a climber can climb fast or slow, beautifully or ugly, but has no right to fall—because falling means dying, and dying means losing.
Why this matters: A stark, unsentimental philosophy that reframes death in the mountains as a personal defeat, not a heroic sacrifice.
Background
This philosophy underpins his book title 'Zwyciężyć znaczy przeżyć' (To Win Means to Survive). It directly challenges the romanticization of fallen climbers like Wanda Rutkiewicz or Jerzy Kukuczka.
Lwow traces this view to a 1975 climbing competition in the USSR, where he watched German climber Helmut Kine fall when a hold broke. A Soviet coach, Ivan Antonovich, told him: 'He lost, because he fell, because a climber can climb fast, slow, pretty, ugly, but has no right to fall, because if you fall, you die, and if you die, you lose.' Lwow internalized this for life. He applies it ruthlessly: anyone who dies in the mountains has lost their fight with the mountain. This is not a lack of respect for the dead, but a recognition that survival is the ultimate measure of success. He contrasts this with the media-driven hero narrative that often glosses over fatal mistakes.
Personal experience
Lwow says he always turned back before reaching his absolute limit, never experiencing 'battery zero', which is why he survived.
A climber can climb fast, slow, beautifully, ugly, but has no right to fall, because if you fall, you die, and if you die, you lose.
Also said
“Of course, someone who dies in the mountains loses the fight with the mountains.”— Direct application to famous Polish climbers who died.
“It is not an art, it is a craft that is perfected over years.”— Reinforces the craft-over-art philosophy.
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Zwyciężyć znaczy przeżyć (To Win Means to Survive)
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Lwow's own book detailing his Himalayan experiences and philosophy, from which he quotes and references throughout the interview.
DisclosureAleksander Lwow is the author of this book.
The book's title encapsulates his core belief that survival is the only victory in mountaineering. It contains the detailed account of the 1988 Broad Peak climb, the waiting for Berbeka, and the subsequent cover-up. Lwow wrote it to set the record straight and to pass on the lessons of his generation. It serves as both a memoir and a manifesto against the commercialization and dishonesty he sees in modern alpinism.
vs alternatives
Unlike many mountaineering books that glorify summits and heroes, this one focuses on the cost of failure and the importance of truth.
Personal experience
Lwow wrote the book and discusses its content as his own story.
You wrote a book that you called To Win Means to Survive. That means that Wanda Rutkiewicz, Jerzy Kukuczka, Maciej Berbeka, Tomek Kowalski, they lost in the mountains.
Also said
“Of course, someone who dies in the mountains loses the fight with the mountains.”— The book's central thesis.
Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased
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A climber can climb fast, slow, beautifully, ugly, but has no right to fall, because if you fall, you die, and if you die, you lose.
The foundational maxim of Lwow's philosophy, borrowed from a Soviet coach, equating falling with losing and death.
K2 should be for the best, not for Poles, because being Polish doesn't mean being the best alpinist.
A direct repudiation of the nationalistic 'K2 for Poles' slogan, asserting merit over nationality.
Winter Himalayan climbing is the art of senseless suffering.
A brutally honest definition of winter Himalayan climbing as 'the art of senseless suffering', extending Wojciech Kurtyka's phrase.
When I found out that the boys had WiFi and internet in base camp, I was almost certain they wouldn't make it.
A provocative claim that internet access directly caused the failure of the 2017 national expedition.
Above 50, a normal person should not climb 8000m peaks at all, especially in winter. Above 60, they should give up 7000m peaks, and above 70, they should stop sport climbing in the mountains altogether.
A clear, uncompromising age-limit rule based on physiology and accident data.
The fact that I avoided three totalitarianisms in my life, namely the church, the army, and a political party, is one of my greatest life achievements.
A sharp, personal declaration of independence from organized religion, military, and political parties.
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