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This is Literally the Worst Cheese for Your Health (Ranked BEST to Worst)
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This is Literally the Worst Cheese for Your Health (Ranked BEST to Worst)

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Pecorino Romano tops the ranking with 52 bioactive peptides after digestion, A2 casein from sheep, high vitamin K2, and C15 odd-chain fatty acids—making it practically lactose-free and enzyme-rich.

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Blue cheese (especially Roquefort and Stilton) ranks high due to spermidine for autophagy, C15 fats, antimicrobial penicillium molds, and high K2—earning it the label 'longevity cheese.'

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Goat cheese scores well because of MCTs, CLA, smaller fat globules for easier digestion, and a strong probiotic effect—plus it's naturally A2.

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American cheese is not cheese—it's emulsifier-laden scraps that harm gut integrity and should be replaced with even a cheaper mozzarella for a neutral macronutrient profile.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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opt-for-raw-or-aged-cheese

WhatWhenever possible, choose raw-milk cheeses or cheeses aged at least 3–6 months, and look for 'raw' labelling even in states where raw milk is restricted.
WhenWhen shopping for any cheese.
For whomAnyone, especially those with mild lactose sensitivity or seeking the functional benefits of cheese.
WhyRaw cheeses retain enzymes and more microbial diversity; aging breaks down lactose and allows bioactive peptides and cultures to develop, enhancing digestibility and health benefits.
CaveatsRaw-milk cheese regulations vary by country; ensure the source is reputable to avoid contamination. Some aged cheeses are high in sodium.

The speaker clarifies that even in states that prohibit raw milk sales, raw-milk cheeses are often legally available because of different aging requirements (60-day rule). He advises looking for 'raw' on the label. Aging itself is a key lever: Pecorino Romano ages 12–15 months, making it practically lactose-free and rich in bioactive peptides. For cheddar, 3 months is the minimum, 6 preferred, to unlock VPP and IP. Without aging, you lose the probiotic and peptide benefits. He also notes that raw goat cheese delivers a strong probiotic effect because it's not pasteurized, and its small fat globules mean less bile is needed for digestion.

Mechanism

Aging encourages proteolysis and lipolysis, breaking down casein and lactose while fostering beneficial bacteria and fungi. This produces bioactive peptides, short-chain fatty acids, and vitamins like K2. Pasteurization kills many enzymes and heat-sensitive microbes, reducing this development. Raw cheese retains the native milk microbiota that can contribute to gut health.

Whenever you can, try to opt for things that are raw or if you can at least find things that are like aged for 6 months or more.

Also said
“You can still find raw cheddar even in states that don't carry raw milk. So it's slightly different classifications.”— Lowers barrier by pointing out different legal classification.

choose-aged-cheddar

WhatSelect cheddar that is clearly labeled as aged at least 3 months, ideally 6 months, and avoid generic plastic-wrapped blocks.
WhenWhen buying cheddar.
DoseMinimum 3-month aging; 6 months preferred.
For whomAnyone consuming cheddar for its potential blood pressure and gut benefits.
WhyVPP and IP bioactive peptides (natural ACE inhibitors) and nisin antimicrobial peptide only develop with sufficient aging.
CaveatsCheddar is typically higher in sodium; those on sodium-restricted diets should account for this. Heavily processed aged cheddar can still contain emulsifiers.

The speaker stresses that generic cheddar—the kind wrapped in plastic—is often not aged and thus lacks the bioactive peptides that make cheddar noteworthy. The ACE-inhibitory effect is comparable to mild food-based blood pressure support. He also notes that white cheddar varieties and some traditional cheddars carry nisin, a well-studied antimicrobial. The trade-off is that aging increases processing steps and reduces probiotic counts compared to raw soft cheeses, but the peptide profile becomes a significant plus. He advises skipping cheddar-like slices that are technically processed cheese.

Mechanism

During aging, starter bacteria (like Lactococcus lactis) liberate VPP and IP from casein. These peptides inhibit angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE), reducing vasoconstriction. Nisin is produced by Lactococcus lactis and works as a pore-forming antimicrobial against competing Gram-positive bacteria.

Problem is you don't get the bioactive peptides unless it's aged properly. So again minimum 3 months preferred 6 months aged on your cheddar.

Also said
“There's two bioactive peptides VPP and IP that are in properly aged cheddar and these are actually natural ACE inhibitors.”— Reinforces the identity and function of the peptides.

choose-a2-casein-cheeses

WhatFavor goat and sheep cheeses over cow cheese when possible, to get A2 casein and avoid potential A1-related digestive issues.
WhenAs a general cheese selection rule.
For whomPeople with dairy sensitivity, digestive discomfort from cow dairy, or anyone looking for cleaner casein.
WhySheep and goat are naturally A2; US cows are predominantly A1, and A1 casein may release the inflammatory peptide BCM-7.
CaveatsCow-derived cheeses from A2 breeds (e.g., Jersey, Guernsey) are alternatives if labeled A2; but sheep/goat is a reliable default.

The speaker challenges the common assumption that lactose is the main culprit in cheese intolerance. He cites evidence that the casein protein itself—specifically the A1 variant—digests into beta-casomorphin-7, which can trigger gut inflammation and slowed motility. Since goat and sheep dairy naturally contains only A2 beta-casein, cheese from these animals eliminates that risk. He notes that Pecorino Romano (sheep) and raw goat cheese are therefore not only more digestible but create a different inflammatory environment. He mentions that even in Italy, true Pecorino Sardo (from Sardinia) is preferred for its purity.

Mechanism

A1 beta-casein has a histidine at position 67 of the 209-amino-acid chain, which allows a cleavage by digestive enzymes that produces BCM-7, an opioid peptide that interacts with μ-opioid receptors in the gut, increasing mucus production and potentially causing inflammation. A2 casein has a proline at position 67, preventing that cleavage.

There's evidence to suggest that it's less about the lactose and more about the actual casein proteins. So you always want to have an A2 variety whenever possible. That doesn't matter when you're dealing with goat or sheep because they are naturally an A2 variety anyway.

check-labels-for-additives

WhatExamine ingredient lists on brie, mozzarella, and other soft cheeses for emulsifiers, flavorings, and excessive pasteurization that strip probiotics and introduce gut irritants.
WhenWhen purchasing brie, mozzarella, or any mass-produced soft cheese.
For whomShoppers seeking genuine quality cheese without hidden processing agents.
WhyMass-produced brie often uses emulsifiers and flavorings to mimic age and creaminess; mozzarella imposters may be simple processed white cheese. These additives can harm gut barrier integrity.
CaveatsLegitimate brie and mozzarella exist; the rule is to check for minimal ingredients (milk, cultures, salt, enzymes). Avoid anything with 'polysorbate' or lengthy ingredient lists.

The speaker explains that real brie is aged only a few weeks and doesn't require much manipulation, yet some manufacturers add emulsifiers to achieve a smooth texture faster. He warns that these additives can degrade gut barrier integrity over time. Similarly, many products labeled 'mozzarella' are actually processed white cheese (jack-style) with stabilizers. He advises seeking traditional buffalo mozzarella or imported Italian versions that list only milk, rennet, and salt. The presence of polysorbate or other emulsifiers should be a red flag, much like American cheese. This vigilance allows consumers to enjoy these middle-ranking cheeses without the downsides of processed variants.

A lot of Bree cheeses are mass-produced with massive amounts of pasteurization and like huge processing. So just keep an eye out and like look at what's in it. Are they adding emulsifiers? Are they adding these other things? Are they adding flavorings to make it taste more like brie?

Also said
“Mozzarella imposters like a lot of just the traditional simple processed white cheese calls itself mozzarella or jack but it's not really actually mozzarella so just pay attention to that.”— Extends the label-check advice to mozzarella, another soft cheese susceptible to imitation.

avoid-american-cheese

WhatEliminate American cheese entirely; replace with even a cheap mozzarella, which has a decent macronutrient profile without harmful emulsifiers.
WhenWhenever American cheese is an option.
For whomAll consumers, especially those who prioritize gut health and want to avoid ultra-processed dairy.
WhyAmerican cheese is a processed product made from cheese scraps, emulsifiers (like polysorbate), and flavorings, not a true cheese. It damages gut barrier integrity.
CaveatsThe affordability may be tempting, but the speaker strongly advises against it given the gut-damaging potential. Cheap mozzarella is a safer swap.

The speaker is blunt: American cheese doesn't deserve a place on a cheese ranking. He describes it as cheese scraps mixed with emulsifiers and flavors to create a meltable 'cheese-like product.' The emulsifiers used, such as polysorbate, have been shown in studies to disrupt tight junctions in the gut lining, potentially leading to increased intestinal permeability. He contrasts this with mozzarella, which hasn't got the 'medicinal' benefits of aged cheeses, but at least offers a decent protein-to-fat ratio and minimal processing. By ranking it dead last, he signals that this is not just a 'less optimal' choice—it's an actively harmful one.

Mechanism

Emulsifiers like polysorbate 80 and carboxymethylcellulose can erode the mucus layer and increase translocation of bacteria across the gut epithelium, promoting low-grade inflammation and metabolic endotoxemia.

American cheese is not even really cheese. They take cheese scraps. They take part of the cheese, they mix it with emulsifiers and flavors and all kinds of different additives to turn it into a cheeselike product that'll melt easily.

Also said
“It's one of these things that from the emulsifier standpoint and what it can potentially do to your gut, your gut barrier integrity with poly sorbet and other emulsifiers, it's just not worth it.”— Specifies the gut barrier harm and names an emulsifier.

sheep-then-goat-for-quality

WhatIf you cannot find sheep cheese, the next best choice is goat cheese.
WhenWhen selecting cheese for optimal fatty acid profile and digestibility.
For whomThose with digestive sensitivities or gallbladder issues.
WhyGoat cheese is naturally A2, high in MCTs and CLA, and has smaller fat globules requiring less bile, making it easier to digest than cow cheese.
CaveatsRaw goat cheese is preferred for probiotic benefit; not all goat cheeses are aged, so some may lack the peptide concentration of aged sheep cheeses.

If you can't get sheep, get goat.

choose-buffalo-mozzarella

WhatOpt for buffalo mozzarella over standard cow mozzarella to increase omega-3 intake.
WhenWhen buying mozzarella.
For whomAnyone looking for a small omega-3 boost from cheese.
WhyBuffalo mozzarella contains a bit more omega-3 fatty acids than cow mozzarella, improving the fat profile slightly.
CaveatsIt's still a fresh cheese aged only a few days, so don't expect aged-cheese benefits. Verify authenticity to avoid imitations.

Really good fat profile if you wanted to go to Buffalo mozzarella where you'd have a little bit more omega-3 in there.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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longevity-cheese-blue

Blue cheese segment, after goat cheese.

Blue cheese (Roquefort, Stilton) contains spermidine, which induces autophagy, and high C15 fats that stabilize cell membranes—making it a 'longevity cheese' with broad antimicrobial properties.

Why this matters: The framing of blue cheese as a cellular powerhouse with an autophagy-inducing compound is a fresh, science-backed angle rarely discussed in nutrition circles.

Background

Blue cheese is often seen as just a strong-tasting variety; the speaker elevates it by linking its fermentation byproducts to geroprotective mechanisms.

The speaker explains that blue cheeses—especially Roquefort (sheep's milk blue) and Stilton—have high levels of spermidine, a polyamine known to trigger autophagy (cellular cleanup). He notes that people take spermidine supplements specifically for this longevity effect, and getting it from food is the best scenario. Combined with the C15 odd-chain fatty acid (which reinforces cell membranes against oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation), and the penicillium molds that act as natural antimicrobials, this cheese becomes a 'cellular powerhouse.' He contrasts true Roquefort (goat or sheep milk) with standard cow-milk blue cheese, stating the latter doesn't match the spermidine content. He also mentions his personal favorite, Point Reyes Blue Cheese from California, which he still buys for its taste and quality.

Personal experience

He grew up hiking and horseback riding in Point Reyes, Northern California, and still purchases Point Reyes Blue Cheese. He calls it 'the best tasting blue cheese' and clearly uses it regularly, though he notes no affiliation with the company.

One of the coolest things that happens with like rogue fort and stilton is there is a high amount of spermidine in it. Now spermidine is known to induce autophagy.

Also said
“You've got the C-15, you've got all these other compounds... It's almost a longevity cheese in a way.”— Encapsulates the longevity framing.
“The penicellum molds that are actually used to make blue cheese... is really really powerful as an antimicrobial. You actually have almost medicinal like properties.”— Highlights the antimicrobial angle beyond autophagy.

cheddar-ace-inhibitors

Cheddar segment, after blue cheese.

Properly aged cheddar (≥3 months) contains bioactive peptides VPP and IP that act as natural ACE inhibitors, along with antimicrobial nisin—but only if it's aged sufficiently and not heavily processed.

Why this matters: This explains why generic cheddar often lacks health benefits: the bioactive peptides don't form without aging.

Background

Cheddar is a widely consumed cheese; the speaker clarifies that its cardiovascular benefits depend entirely on fermentation duration, not just being 'cheddar.'

The speaker details two specific bioactive peptides in aged cheddar: VPP (Val-Pro-Pro) and IP (Ile-Pro-Pro), both known to inhibit angiotensin-converting enzyme, thus lowering blood pressure. He also mentions nisin, a well-known antimicrobial peptide present in cheddar varieties that may benefit gut health. The downside is that many mass-market cheddars are not aged long enough and are wrapped in plastic with emulsifiers, stripping away probiotic effects. He advises reading labels for aging time and avoiding sodium-heavy pre-sliced versions. He suggests a minimum of 3 months, preferably 6 months, to unlock these peptides.

There's two bioactive peptides VPP and IP that are in properly aged cheddar and these are actually natural ACE inhibitors. So they help with blood pressure a lot.

Also said
“Problem is you don't get the bioactive peptides unless it's aged properly. So again minimum 3 months preferred 6 months aged on your cheddar.”— Emphasizes the necessity of aging for the benefit.
“There's also a bioactive peptide known as nissin or nine... That's an antimicrobial peptide that is very very well known.”— Adds the gut-health angle of nisin.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Point Reyes Blue Cheese

Product

The speaker's personal favorite blue cheese, from Point Reyes in Northern California, praised for taste and quality, and used as an example of a good blue cheese source.

He shares a nostalgic personal history with the Point Reyes area, where he and his wife grew up hiking and horseback riding. This blue cheese is his go-to: he buys it regularly and holds it up as a prime example of a well-made blue cheese that delivers the antimicrobial, K2, and C15 benefits he discussed. While not an official endorsement or comparison to other brands, his long-standing use and emotional connection lend it credibility as a practical recommendation. It also illustrates that artisan local products can meet the high standards he outlines.

vs alternatives

No direct comparison to other blue cheeses, but he frames it as a gold standard for flavor and quality within the blue cheese category.

Personal experience

He has been buying Point Reyes Blue Cheese since childhood and continues to do so; he describes it as 'so dang good' and includes it as his top blue cheese choice.

Not sponsored by them. Don't know anybody that works there. I just know to this day I still buy that blue cheese. It is so dang good.

Also said
“They have the best tasting blue cheese and it's called Pointra Blue Cheese.”— Positions it as the speaker's top taste choice.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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American cheese is not even really cheese. They take cheese scraps. They take part of the cheese, they mix it with emulsifiers and flavors and all kinds of different additives to turn it into a cheeselike product that'll melt easily.
Makes a definitive, memorable statement that captures the core issue with processed cheese.
Blue cheese... is really really powerful as an antimicrobial. You actually have almost medicinal like properties that are coming with blue cheese.
Reframes blue cheese as a functional food with near-medicinal antimicrobial action.
One of the coolest things that happens with like rogue fort and stilton is there is a high amount of spermidine in it. Now spermidine is known to induce autophagy.
Introduces an autophagy-inducing compound in cheese, directly linking it to longevity science.
There's two bioactive peptides VPP and IP that are in properly aged cheddar and these are actually natural ACE inhibitors. So they help with blood pressure a lot.
Demonstrates how a common cheese can have specific, measurable cardiovascular benefits when aged correctly.
There's evidence to suggest that it's less about the lactose and more about the actual casein proteins. So you always want to have an A2 variety whenever possible.
Challenges the mainstream dairy-intolerance narrative by pointing to casein proteins.

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