Grazing by eating a small snack then not eating the rest of the day breaks the muscle-preserving fasted state and turns the day into a low-calorie trap that cost Thomas muscle.
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Combining heavy lifts and HIIT into every gym session sabotaged hypertrophy; switching to dedicated resistance-only days and capping mixed workouts to twice weekly restored proper stimulus.
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Over-dependence on protein shakes and meat sticks as meal replacements psychologically enabled drastic under-eating; treating them as planned supplements, not meals, brought back strength and size.
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NSAIDs like Meloxicam blunted hypertrophy by suppressing the inflammation needed for muscle growth; Thomas now manages back pain with curcumin, red light laser (Kenyan Move Plus), and only occasional, carefully timed NSAID use.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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Commit to full fast or full feeding day
WhatEither abstain from food entirely for a fasting window or eat adequate meals throughout the day; avoid a small snack that breaks the fast without providing meaningful calories.
WhenOn days when intermittent fasting is practiced, define clear cutoffs (e.g., 16:8 or 24-hour fast) and stick to them; if not fasting, eat full meals spaced throughout the day.
DoseFor fast days: no caloric intake; for feeding days: meals that collectively meet energy needs, avoiding periods of 5-6 hours without food after breaking the fast.
For whomAnyone who uses intermittent fasting but finds themselves eating tiny 'meals' out of convenience.
WhyA small snack turns off the muscle-preserving systems of fasting (ketones, autophagy, hormonal protection) without providing enough energy, putting the body in a low-calorie catabolic state.
CaveatsNot everyone should fast; this advice applies only to those who already choose to fast.
Thomas details how true fasting signals the body to spare muscle via elevated ketones and other preservation mechanisms. Once you consume anything, insulin rises and those survival pathways shut down. The subsequent hours without food become a pure calorie deficit, which over repeated days can lead to significant muscle loss. He stresses that this is a common trap for busy people: they think a small protein hit like a shake or a meat stick 'keeps them fasted' or is harmless, but it actually creates the worst of both worlds—no protective fasting state and too few calories.
Mechanism
During fasting, low insulin and high glucagon promote lipolysis and ketogenesis. Ketone bodies activate FOXO and AMPK pathways that reduce proteolysis and enhance stress resistance in muscle. Eating triggers insulin release, inhibiting ketogenesis and shifting the body out of preservation mode. If calorie intake then remains trivial, the body resorts to amino acid catabolism for energy, leading to muscle loss.
Personal experience
Thomas experienced this himself: he would have a small protein snack, get busy, and end the day with just 500 calories, then overeat at night. He realized it was far worse than full fasting or full eating.
It would have been much better off for me to just either not eat at all or commit to eating adequate amounts that day.
Also said
“The moment you open the floodgates, it changes things hormonally. … all of a sudden, you're not in the fasted state anymore. you're just in a low calorie state.”— Captures the core mechanism.
Separate resistance and cardio days
WhatDo dedicated resistance-only training sessions and dedicated cardio-only sessions; limit combined interference-style workouts to at most two per week.
WhenOn resistance days, avoid high-intensity cardio immediately before or during the session; on cardio days, no heavy lifting. Combined days are reserved for when work capacity is the goal, not hypertrophy.
DoseTrain combined sessions no more than twice weekly; resistance-only sessions 2-3 times per week, cardio sessions 1-2 times per week depending on goals.
For whomPeople who are time-crunched and tend to mix modalities to 'get it all in' but find muscle gains stagnating.
WhyConcurrent intense cardio blunts maximal force output and prevents training to true muscular failure, limiting the mechanical tension needed for hypertrophy.
CaveatsSome combined training is fine for general fitness and work capacity; it only becomes a problem when it constitutes the majority of workouts.
Thomas explains that his short 45-minute gym windows pushed him to perform strength exercises and jump rope intervals in the same session. Psychologically, he wanted to feel his heart rate high and sweat pouring to validate the workout. But the interference effect meant he couldn't lift heavy enough or push sets to failure. He calls it 'interference training' and notes that while it builds work capacity, it's suboptimal for muscle growth. His solution was to designate specific days: two days a week he still does the mixed style for cardiovascular conditioning and mental satisfaction, but the other days are purely resistance training to ensure he can focus on mechanical overload and failure.
Mechanism
Endurance exercise activates AMPK, which inhibits mTORC1, the master regulator of muscle protein synthesis. Residual neuromuscular fatigue from cardio also reduces motor unit recruitment and force production during lifting, diminishing both tension and metabolic stress.
Personal experience
Thomas describes coming into the garage, needing to finish in 45 minutes because of his kids, and immediately jumping between deadlifts and jump rope. He realized he was never truly exhausting a muscle group. Now, by splitting days, his strength returned.
I'm unable to truly train my muscles to proper failure if I have to immediately go from a deadlift into a run. There's just no way.
Also said
“I needed to reel that back and do two defined days a week where I train like that and have other days where I do straight resistance training and straight cardio.”— Specific protocol recommendation.
Use protein supplements as planned, not as meal replacements
WhatDesignate protein shakes and meat sticks as supplementary protein hits at specific times or in emergencies, not as default snacks that replace whole meals.
WhenConsume a protein shake or meat stick only when a full meal is logistically impossible (in a pinch), or at a pre-planned part of the day (e.g., post-workout), not casually to stave off hunger.
DoseShake ~150–250 calories, meat stick ~80–150 calories; these should not constitute the bulk of daily caloric intake.
For whomBusy individuals who rely on convenient protein snacks and find themselves chronically under-eating.
WhyUsing these low-calorie protein items as meal substitutes creates a psychological 'license' to skip real meals, leading to severe under-eating and muscle loss.
CaveatsProtein shakes and meat sticks are useful tools; the issue is dependency, not the products themselves.
Thomas dives into the behavioral psychology: when he grabbed a meat stick or shake, he mentally checked a box that he'd 'taken care of protein,' which made him feel okay about not preparing or consuming a real meal. Over hours, his daily caloric intake would plummet to insufficient levels, but the satiating effect of protein plus the mental rationalization masked the deficit. He emphasizes that he loves these products and doesn't blame them; the problem was his own laziness and psychological reliance. Once he reframed them as a planned part of his regimen—only to be used in a pinch—his calorie intake normalized and his gains returned.
Personal experience
Thomas admits his love for meat sticks gave him a 'license and enabled me to be a little bit more lazy with my meal prep.' He would skip meals, confident that the stick had provided protein. The turnaround came when he designated shakes and sticks as exceptions, not rules.
Think about it. I was severely undereating because of the psychological effect of having a meat stick or a protein shake.
Also said
“The moment that I said, 'Wait, it's a clear, defined, and planned protein shake.' Unless I'm in a pinch and need a protein shake, then everything started to come back, the muscle came back, the strength came back.”— Specific behavioral change.
Manage inflammation without NSAIDs around workouts
WhatReplace regular NSAID use for training comfort with curcumin and localized red light therapy; reserve NSAID (Meloxicam) for rare, non-training times when absolutely needed.
WhenApply red light laser (e.g., Kenyan Move Plus) to affected joints before a workout or during recovery. Use curcumin daily as an anti-inflammatory. Avoid NSAIDs within the peri-workout window.
DoseRed light: 660 nm laser, 10-20 minutes on target area. Curcumin: no specific dose given but used regularly. NSAID: only when pain is unmanageable and away from training.
For whomAthletes or lifters with chronic joint pain who turn to NSAIDs to train through discomfort.
WhyNSAIDs blunt the essential inflammatory signal for muscle hypertrophy; curcumin and red light reduce excess inflammation without fully shutting down the COX pathway needed for muscle repair.
CaveatsNSAIDs are still occasionally useful; this protocol is about reducing frequency, not demonizing the drug. Curcumin quality varies; choose a bioavailable form.
Thomas has severe back issues and discovered that although Meloxicam allowed him to move better and lift with more range of motion, it came at the cost of blunted hypertrophy. He explains the evidence is strong that COX inhibition reduces the anabolic response to resistance training. So he now uses a multi-pronged approach: he applies a red light laser device (Kenyan Move Plus) directly to his spinal erectors and hip joints, penetrates deep tissue with 660 nm light, and has found remarkable improvements in spinal flexion and extension. He also takes curcumin, noting it's frustratingly underappreciated as an effective natural anti-inflammatory. He still keeps Meloxicam in his toolkit but is far more selective, ensuring it's not taken close to a workout.
Mechanism
Prostaglandins produced via COX-2 are necessary for satellite cell activation and fusion during muscle repair. NSAIDs inhibit COX-2, thereby diminishing the hypertrophic response. Curcumin acts as an anti-inflammatory through NF-κB inhibition without completely blocking COX, potentially sparing the anabolic prostaglandin signal. Red light therapy (photobiomodulation) reduces inflammation by enhancing mitochondrial function and modulating reactive oxygen species, which can alleviate chronic pain without systemically inhibiting the inflammatory cascade needed for adaptation.
Personal experience
Thomas describes noticing that while on Meloxicam his workouts felt better, but his muscle gains stagnated. Switching to red light laser on his back and curcumin allowed him to maintain mobility and see hypertrophy return. He says red light on his spine is 'insane what it would do with my spinal flexion and extension'.
I would sacrifice hypertrophy because you're blunting the inflammation at the wrong time.
Also said
“I started using more curcumin to manage my inflammation and it works and it works well and it's frustrating that it doesn't get the attention it deserves because it really does work as an anti-inflammatory.”— Endorsement of curcumin as a real alternative.
“I utilize that Kenyan Move Plus … It uses red light laser. So, standard 660 nanometer wavelength red light, but concentrated into a laser. So, it's actually penetrating deep into the joint.”— Details on the red light laser device.
Consistent high-dose creatine without cycling off
WhatTake 10-15 grams of creatine monohydrate daily, every day, without skipping doses or cycling off due to water weight concerns.
WhenDaily, at any time, though post-workout or with a meal may aid uptake.
Dose10-15 grams per day, consistently. No loading phase described, just steady intake.
For whomIndividuals who previously cycled creatine because of fear of water retention or bloat.
WhyCreatine increases phosphocreatine stores for ATP regeneration, enhancing strength and muscle hydration; inconsistent dosing causes alternating strength gains and losses plus fluctuating water weight.
CaveatsInitial water retention is temporary and subsides with continued use. Adequate hydration is essential when taking high doses.
Thomas reveals a psychological battle with creatine: every time he dosed high, he'd gain intramuscular water weight, which triggered body-image anxiety. He would see the scale go up or feel 'puffy' and immediately reduce or stop creatine, only to lose strength and then restart. This yo-yo pattern meant he never got the full chronic benefits. He eventually addressed this through therapy—including ketamine-assisted therapy and EMDR—to work through his body-image issues. Once he accepted the temporary water retention as a sign of muscle hydration, he committed to 10-15 grams daily without interruption. The water retention leveled out, and his strength stabilized. His story underscores how psychological barriers can sabotage an effective supplement.
Mechanism
Creatine draws water into muscle cells via osmosis, increasing cell volume, which itself is an anabolic signal. Chronic supplementation maintains elevated phosphocreatine, improving high-intensity performance and muscle protein synthesis over time. The initial water weight is intracellular and typically stabilizes after a few weeks; cycling off and on disrupts this equilibrium and the cumulative anabolic signal.
Personal experience
Thomas openly discusses his 'fragile psyche' around looking a certain way, which led him to panic at creatine water bloat. He describes working on his ego through therapy and finally staying consistent. After consistent dosing, the water retention dissipated and he gained the strength benefits he'd been missing.
I would have creatine and then I'd retain water. So, I'd freak out and I would take it down. Now I got over that and I had consistent dosing at 10 to 15 grams a day. And what do you know? The water retention chilled out.
Also said
“The inconsistent dosing was making it strong, weak, strong, weak, strong, weak.”— Illustrates the performance rollercoaster.
Prioritize hydration over microplastic avoidance
WhatDrink enough water daily, using whatever container is practical (plastic bottle, glass jug), rather than letting fear of microplastics cause dehydration.
WhenThroughout the day, aiming to avoid chronic dehydration signs like drawn eyes and poor performance.
DoseNo specific volume; goal is to stay hydrated rather than abstain from drinking due to container type.
For whomHealth-conscious individuals who avoid plastic drink containers and end up drinking too little.
WhyChronic dehydration reduces intracellular muscle volume, impairs strength, and worsens appearance; the net harm of dehydration far outweighs the potential risk of microplastic exposure from bottles.
CaveatsIdeally use safer materials (glass, stainless steel) when possible, but do not sacrifice hydration for purity if inconvenient.
Thomas explains his internal calculus: the perceived threat of microplastics led him to ditch his trusty plastic water jug and attempt to carry a glass jug, which was impractical with his lifestyle. Consequently, he simply drank much less water. Colleagues noticed his drawn, dehydrated appearance. He realized he was letting an orthorexic concern undermine a basic physiological need. While he still believes minimizing microplastics is wise, he now pragmatically uses plastic bottles when necessary and makes sure he drinks enough. He looks and performs better, which he considers the more important net positive. This is a practical, lived-experience lesson rather than a scientific one.
Personal experience
Thomas shares that people commented on his tired, dehydrated look. He admits it was a failure of priority: 'don't let that deter you because for me I didn't want to drink out of water bottles so then I wouldn't drink as much.' He now accepts the trade-off.
It's a perfect example of maybe I'll just have some of my microplastics if I'm actually hydrated because what is the net positive or the net negative here?
Also said
“Next thing I know I'm chronically dehydrated and people were seeing it in my eyes. They're like Thomas you look drawn out.”— Evidence of the real-world consequence.
Eat carbohydrates at night for sleep and recovery
WhatInclude a source of carbohydrates in the evening meal to improve sleep quality and subsequent muscle recovery.
WhenAt dinner or as a nighttime snack, ideally 1-2 hours before bed.
DoseNot specified; simply add a serving of carbs that fits daily macros.
For whomPeople who avoid carbs at night out of fear of fat gain and consequently suffer poor sleep.
WhyEvening carbohydrates boost serotonin and melatonin, enhancing deep sleep, which is critical for muscle protein synthesis and overall recovery.
CaveatsChoose complex, lower-glycemic carbs if blood sugar control is a concern; adjust portion to individual tolerance.
Thomas had a deep-seated carb phobia, especially at night, thinking the insulin spike would be detrimental. He noticed, however, that his sleep was poor and his recovery lagged. On a hunch, he added carbohydrates back into his evening meal and experienced noticeably better sleep, which he ascribes to the serotonin pathway. He didn't see a negative impact on body composition; in fact, his muscle growth and strength improved because he was recovering better. He emphasizes that the benefit wasn't from carbs directly building muscle, but from the downstream effect of improved sleep quality.
Mechanism
Carbs increase insulin, which shunts branched-chain amino acids into muscle, increasing the ratio of tryptophan relative to other amino acids in blood. Tryptophan crosses the blood-brain barrier more easily and is converted to serotonin, then melatonin, promoting restful sleep. Deeper sleep increases growth hormone secretion and reduces cortisol, both favorable for muscle repair.
Personal experience
Thomas admits his 'carb phobia at night' prevented him from trying it until recently. Once he started, his sleep improved dramatically and his gym performance and muscle gains followed.
The carbs at night were helping me sleep. So, I started to add them in and I started sleeping better and I recovered better and my muscle growth and my strength got better.
Also said
“My carb phobia was hindering my muscle growth, not because carbs are required for muscle, but because I was afraid to have them, but it was what I needed to induce that serotonin response to where I could sleep better.”— Clarifies the chain from phobia to sleep to muscle.
Cycle high-calorie days with aggressive deficits instead of chronic low calories
WhatEat substantial calories (2,000–4,000 kcal) on most days, then drop to a 24-hour fast or very low intake occasionally to keep weekly energy balance via intermittent sharp deficits.
WhenOn a weekly cycle: several high-calorie days followed by a 24-hour fast (or very low-calorie day).
DoseExample: 2,000-4,000 kcal for 5-6 days, then one day of 0-500 kcal (24-hour fast) to create a net deficit without chronic under-eating.
For whomThose who have been in a prolonged deficit and lost muscle, or who struggle to eat enough while trying to stay lean.
WhyChronic low-calorie intake downregulates metabolism and makes muscle maintenance difficult; aggressive but brief deficits preserve metabolic rate and allow muscle-building on feeding days.
CaveatsRequires discipline on fast days and the ability to eat large, nutrient-dense meals on feeding days. Not suitable for those with disordered eating tendencies.
Thomas observed that his habit of simply eating less because he was busy put him in a constant mild deficit that eroded muscle over years. He advocates for what he calls 'eat a lot, aggressive deficit'—periods of high feeding to support muscle anabolism, interspersed with short, deep caloric cuts (like a 24-hour fast) that reduce the weekly average without chronically suppressing metabolic rate. He says this works better for him than always 'just going low.' He mentions it can net you a 3,000-calorie reduction in a single day, which is more efficient than daily restriction.
Mechanism
Cycle between anabolic windows (high calories, high mTOR) and catabolic windows (fasting, high AMPK) may mimic aspects of feast-famine cycles, preserving insulin sensitivity and preventing adaptive thermogenesis. The brief fast days act as a metabolic reset without prolonged energy restriction that would lower thyroid output and increase muscle loss.
Personal experience
Thomas found that being chronically low calorie from grazing made him lose muscle. Now he eats robustly most days and uses an occasional full fast day to control net intake, which has made muscle maintenance and regaining easier.
Eat a lot, aggressive deficit. … 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 day after day and then drop for a 24-hour fast and reduce those calories by 3,000 that day and net yourself out rather than just go low because you're busy.
Also said
“I just was okay. I was in a deficit so much to the point that over the course of the years, it started to creep up on me.”— Explains the slow-onset problem of chronic deficit.
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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Full fast vs. low-calorie grazing
Thomas realized that eating a small snack then going hours without food destroyed muscle because it turned a protective fast into a low-calorie day without the preservation signals.
Why this matters: Reframes the common practice of 'just a protein shake' during the day as worse than either full fasting or full eating, especially for muscle retention.
Background
Thomas used to fast cleanly for long periods, which elevated ketones and muscle-preserving systems. Recently, trying to avoid over-fasting, he started having a small protein or snack early but then got busy and didn't eat again, ending the day at 500 calories and needing to overeat at night.
He draws a sharp distinction between true fasting and a low-calorie day. When you are in a clear fast, the body senses food scarcity and upregulates preservation processes that spare lean tissue. Ketones rise, and hormonal shifts protect muscle. But as soon as you ingest even a small amount of food, those survival adaptations switch off—the body no longer thinks it is in a famine and stops protecting muscle. If you then go another five or six hours without food, you are simply in a calorie deficit without the protective fasting environment. Thomas found himself repeatedly making this error: he'd eat a little protein to 'not overdo fasting,' then get absorbed in work and fail to eat again until evening, accumulating a huge daily deficit. By the end of the day he would try to compensate by overeating, which further disrupted his metabolism. The fix was to either commit to a full fasting window where he ingested nothing, or to commit to eating adequate calories throughout the day with proper meals. He frames this as a real-world psychological pitfall for busy people who think a small protein hit is harmless but actually undermines their muscle goals.
Personal experience
Thomas describes getting so busy with his 60-70 hour workweeks and raising two young kids that he would grab something small for protein, then get hyperfocused and forget to eat for the rest of the day. He'd end up with only 500 calories by nightfall, feel the need to binge, and the cycle cost him muscle and made it harder to regain. He says he had to 'get back on the wagon' and stop this inadvertent grazing-fast approach.
The moment you open the floodgates, it changes things hormonally. It changes things. And all of a sudden, you're not in the fasted state anymore. you're just in a low calorie state.
Also said
“Ketones elevate. All kinds of systems elevate and preserve muscle. But once you do eat, the body says, 'Okay, I have food. I don't need to protect and preserve anymore.' But then here I go, another 5, six hours without eating. No wonder I was losing muscle.”— Explains the logic of why the body disables preservation after even a small meal.
“It would have been much better off for me to just either not eat at all or commit to eating adequate amounts that day.”— Direct statement of the corrected approach.
Separating strength and conditioning
He learned that doing combined HIIT and heavy lifting every workout prevented truly training to failure and limited hypertrophy, so he now programs distinct resistance-only sessions.
Why this matters: Challenges the 'more is better' mentality in time-crunched training and validates the need for session separation for muscle growth, even if it feels less efficient.
Background
Thomas prides himself on time-efficient, high-intensity workouts and typically has only 45 minutes to train. He would mix deadlifts, jump rope, and other cardio with strength moves in the same session to get his heart rate up and feel accomplished.
The psychological drive to feel his heart rate high and the constraint of short workout windows led Thomas to blend intense cardio with heavy lifts in nearly every session. He would go from deadlifts straight into jump rope intervals, convinced he was getting a 'great workout in a short amount of time.' However, he recognized this was building work capacity but not providing the specific muscular overload needed for hypertrophy. He could not take a set to true failure if he had to immediately transition to a run, and he could not give maximum force on a deadlift if he came from a breathless cardio burst. This interference effect undermined both his strength and muscle gains. His correction: he now allows only two days per week of that mixed training style, while the other days are devoted solely to resistance training or solely to cardio. He acknowledges that reining in the desire to always feel gassed was crucial.
Personal experience
With small kids and no family nearby, Thomas's garage gym workouts are limited to about 45 minutes. He fell into the pattern of wanting to 'get it all in' by simultaneously lifting and doing high-intensity cardio like jump rope. He describes the psychological pull of needing to feel his heart rate elevated and sweaty, but he noticed his lifts stagnating and muscle loss. He now consciously separates days and admits it required ego adjustment to not feel like he was slacking on cardio when focusing purely on strength.
I'm unable to truly train my muscles to proper failure if I have to immediately go from a deadlift into a run. There's just no way.
Also said
“Great for what's called work capacity. Great for building that for fitness. But if that becomes your workout every day, that is a problem.”— Highlights why daily interference training is counterproductive for muscle.
Protein-dominant snacking replacing meals
Relying on protein shakes and meat sticks as meal replacements created a psychological license to undereat calories, which stalled muscle regain until Thomas re-framed them as planned supplements.
Why this matters: Exposes how the 'clean eating' obsession can paradoxically lead to calorie deprivation and muscle loss, even among experts.
Background
Thomas loves protein shakes and meat sticks and would use them as quick protein hits when busy. He thought he was 'at least getting protein' but was ingesting only 150–300 calories and then not eating for hours.
Thomas describes a sneaky psychological phenomenon: the act of consuming a high-protein, low-calorie item like a meat stick or shake gave him a mental 'check mark' that he had taken care of his nutrition, enabling him to skip proper meals. A shake might have 150 calories and 25 g of protein; a meat stick, 11 g of protein and 350 mg sodium. He would have one and feel satisfied enough to delay eating for another 3–4 hours, essentially replacing a real meal with a tiny protein dose. Over weeks, this led to a consistent calorie deficit that was masked by the perception of having eaten. He clarifies he has nothing against these products—they are useful—but when they become meal replacements due to busyness or laziness, they undermine muscle growth. His correction was to designate them as planned supplements (e.g., a shake at a specific time of day or in a pinch when truly unable to eat) rather than default mini-meals. Once he made that shift, muscle and strength began returning.
Personal experience
Thomas admits he would grab a meat stick, feel like he'd covered his protein, and then not eat for hours because he was busy. He shares that it even made him lazier with meal prep, because he knew he always had a shake or stick as a fallback. He calls this 'being real and vulnerable' and says the muscle came back when he stopped using them as meal substitutes and returned to structured eating.
Think about it. I was severely undereating because of the psychological effect of having a meat stick or a protein shake.
Also said
“The moment that I said, 'Wait, it's a clear, defined, and planned protein shake.' Unless I'm in a pinch and need a protein shake, then everything started to come back, the muscle came back, the strength came back.”— Shows the specific behavioral fix that reversed the problem.
NSAID use and blunted hypertrophy
Thomas found that occasional Meloxicam for back pain was impairing muscle growth by blocking necessary inflammation, so he shifted to curcumin and red light laser therapy.
Why this matters: Directly links a common pain-management drug to muscle loss and offers alternative strategies without eliminating the drug entirely when needed.
Background
Thomas has six blown discs from contact sports and heavy lifting, causing chronic back pain. He occasionally used the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory Meloxicam (Mobic) to improve mobility and get through workouts with less warm-up time.
NSAIDs like Meloxicam are non-selective COX inhibitors that shut down the cyclooxygenase enzymes responsible for producing prostaglandins, key mediators of inflammation and pain. While they let him move better and train harder acutely, the evidence he cites shows they blunt hypertrophy because the inflammatory response is a critical signal for muscle repair and growth. When you take NSAIDs around your workout, you dampen that signal and reduce the anabolic response. Thomas noticed he could train more comfortably but wasn't gaining the muscle he expected. He now uses NSAIDs selectively—only when absolutely necessary and timed far from training—but primarily manages inflammation through curcumin (which he says works well but is underappreciated) and localized red light therapy, especially a red light laser device called Kenyan Move Plus that penetrates deep into joints. He also uses standard 660 nm red light panels. This multi-modal approach lets him train without the hypertrophic cost of chronic NSAID use.
Personal experience
Thomas shares that his back is 'pretty wrecked' from years of sports and lifting. The Meloxicam helped him feel better and move through workouts faster, but he realized his muscle gains were subpar. Now he applies red light laser directly to his spine before sessions and uses curcumin, which he insists genuinely works as an anti-inflammatory.
What would happen is I would sacrifice hypertrophy because you're blunting the inflammation at the wrong time.
Also said
“I still occasionally use a Moxyam, but I use it selectively.”— Clarifies he hasn't eliminated NSAIDs entirely but uses them strategically.
“I started using more curcumin to manage my inflammation and it works and it works well and it's frustrating that it doesn't get the attention it deserves because it really does work as an anti-inflammatory.”— Endorses curcumin as an effective alternative.
Chronic dehydration from microplastic fear
Avoiding plastic water bottles to reduce microplastic exposure caused him to drink too little water, leading to chronic dehydration and reduced muscle volume until he prioritized total hydration over plastic concerns.
Why this matters: Illustrates how an orthorexic fixation on purity can undermine a fundamental physiological need, and offers a pragmatic cost-benefit re-evaluation.
Background
Thomas always used to carry a large plastic water jug to ensure hydration. After becoming concerned about microplastics leaching from plastic containers, he stopped using them, but his alternative glass jug was less convenient, and he found himself drinking far less.
He works 60-70 hours a week and manages two young children, so carrying a glass jug everywhere was impractical, and he began to avoid drinking because he disliked plastic bottles. Over time, this led to a state of chronic dehydration. He describes that his intracellular muscle volume decreased, his lifts suffered, and people commented that his eyes looked 'drawn out'. He faced a trade-off: the potential harm of microplastic intake versus the definitive harm of dehydration on muscle performance and appearance. He concluded that the net benefit of being well-hydrated even with some microplastic exposure far outweighed the alternative. He now uses whatever vessel necessary to get enough water, accepting some microplastic intake as a lesser evil. He says he looks and feels better simply because he's hydrated again.
Personal experience
Thomas admits his fragile psychology around health perfectionism prevented him from drinking enough. He'd think 'I don't want to drink out of plastic' and then just not drink, ending up chronically depleted. He frames it as a moment of honest self-assessment: the real damage was from dehydration, not microplastics.
It's a perfect example of maybe I'll just have some of my microplastics if I'm actually hydrated because what is the net positive or the net negative here?
Also said
“Next thing I know I'm chronically dehydrated and people were seeing it in my eyes. They're like Thomas you look drawn out.”— Shows the visible consequences of his dehydration.
Carb avoidance at night impairing sleep and recovery
He had a carb phobia that prevented him from eating carbohydrates at night, but adding them improved sleep, recovery, and muscle gain through a serotonin response.
Why this matters: Contrasts the popular low-carb dogma with a personal discovery that nighttime carbs enhanced sleep quality and thus muscle growth.
Background
Thomas was afraid that eating carbs at night would cause a blood sugar spike and harm body composition. He religiously avoided them in the evening.
His fear of carbs at night was rooted in the belief that insulin spikes before bed would promote fat storage or disrupt hormonal health. However, he noticed his sleep was suboptimal and recovery was lagging. He reintroduced carbohydrates in the evening and experienced better sleep, which he attributes to a serotonin-mediated pathway: carbs facilitate tryptophan entry into the brain, increasing serotonin and subsequently melatonin, improving sleep architecture. Better sleep led to improved recovery and, counterintuitively, better muscle growth and strength—not because carbs directly build muscle, but because they enabled the restorative sleep that is essential for hypertrophy. He frames it as overcoming a psychological block that was undermining his progress.
Personal experience
Thomas admits he had a 'carb phobia at night' and wouldn't touch them for fear of blood sugar spikes. Once he started adding carbohydrates at dinner, he slept better and his muscle growth and strength improved. He specifically says the carbs helped him sleep, which then drove recovery.
The carbs at night were helping me sleep. So, I started to add them in and I started sleeping better and I recovered better and my muscle growth and my strength got better.
Also said
“My carb phobia was hindering my muscle growth, not because carbs are required for muscle, but because I was afraid to have them, but it was what I needed to induce that serotonin response to where I could sleep better.”— Explicitly links the phobia to muscle loss via sleep.
Recommendations
Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode
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Curcumin
Supplement
Thomas recommends curcumin as an effective natural anti-inflammatory to manage chronic pain and inflammation without NSAIDs.
Thomas switched from NSAIDs to curcumin for managing his back inflammation and was impressed with the results. He laments that it doesn't get the attention it deserves despite solid evidence of efficacy. He uses it daily as part of his inflammation management protocol, alongside red light therapy. It is positioned as an alternative to COX inhibitors that allows the necessary inflammatory burst for muscle growth while still reducing chronic pain. He does not specify a brand or dosage, just the general supplement.
vs alternatives
Unlike NSAIDs, curcumin targets NF-κB and other inflammatory pathways without fully shutting down COX, potentially preserving the beneficial acute inflammatory response to exercise.
Personal experience
He says 'it works and it works well' and is frustrated by the lack of mainstream recognition.
I started using more curcumin to manage my inflammation and it works and it works well and it's frustrating that it doesn't get the attention it deserves because it really does work as an anti-inflammatory.
Using 660 nm red light panels and laser devices on joints to reduce pain, improve mobility, and aid recovery without NSAIDs.
Thomas advocates for red light therapy as a scientifically supported modality for managing inflammation and enhancing recovery. He mentions using both full-body red light panels and the targeted Kenyan Move Plus laser. He highlights adoption by elite groups (NFL, military special forces) as evidence of credibility. In his protocol, red light therapy is used pre-workout on problematic areas (back, hips) to improve range of motion and reduce the need for warm-up or painkillers, and is also part of his recovery toolkit.
vs alternatives
Versus NSAIDs: targets inflammation locally without systemic effects that blunt hypertrophy. Versus heat/ice: deeper penetration and sustained anti-inflammatory and mitochondrial benefits.
Personal experience
Thomas says red light, especially the laser, made a noticeable difference in his ability to flex and extend his spine without pain, allowing him to train harder.
There is legit science behind red light therapy at this point. I'm not talking any fringe stuff. NFL teams use it. All kinds of different military special forces groups use it. Red light works.
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“I can wear it with the little back strap that it gives you and actually penetrate pinpoint laser into my back prior to a workout or just during recovery.”— Describes practical use of the laser device.
A good quality multivitamin to cover micronutrient gaps, especially on days when whole-food intake is inadequate.
Thomas admits he can't find a lot of direct evidence linking micronutrient supplementation to muscle growth, but anecdotally, adding a multivitamin made 'things just click.' He uses one on days he feels his nutrition is subpar—which, given his travel and busy schedule, is frequent. He clarifies he is not pushing a brand but mentions Bowar Nutrition and Mitoor as examples of quality products he uses, and also uses organ complexes. This is a pragmatic insurance policy for the real-world dieter who can't always eat perfectly.
vs alternatives
Compared to no supplementation, a multivitamin fills nutritional gaps that might silently impair recovery and performance. It is not a substitute for a whole-food diet but a safety net.
Personal experience
Thomas says he often doesn't get adequate nutrition because he's a 'real human' who travels, and adding a multivitamin helped him feel better and support his muscle-building efforts.
I will tell you that when I started using a multivitamin, things just clicked.
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“I use a multivitamin on days I don't feel like I get adequate nutrition and there's a lot of days like that because I'm a real human and I travel.”— Explains the real-world need.
Instead of daily calorie restriction, eat generously on most days and insert a full 24-hour fast once or twice a week to achieve a net deficit while supporting muscle.
Thomas calls this 'Eat a lot, aggressive deficit.' On high days, he consumes 2,000–4,000 calories to fuel anabolism, then on fast days he ingests zero to 500 calories, creating a large single-day deficit that compensates for the surplus. He argues this is better than being chronically underfed, which downregulates metabolism and causes muscle loss. This approach mirrors intermittent fasting but with a weekly calorie redistribution, preventing the body from adapting to a constant low intake.
vs alternatives
Versus continuous calorie restriction: avoids constant hunger, preserves metabolic rate, and provides full anabolic days. Versus standard bulking: the fast days prevent excessive fat gain.
Personal experience
Thomas used to graze and be constantly low-calorie, which slowly eroded his muscle. Shifting to this cycling approach made it easier for him to maintain muscle and even recomp. He says 'It just works better' for him.
Eat a lot, aggressive deficit. … 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 day after day and then drop for a 24-hour fast and reduce those calories by 3,000 that day and net yourself out rather than just go low because you're busy.
Thomas recommends this to manage joint pain and inflammation without NSAIDs, specifically for back and hip soreness before workouts.
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The Kenyan Move Plus is a wearable red light laser device that uses a 660 nanometer wavelength, but concentrated into a laser beam for deeper tissue penetration compared to standard LED panels. Thomas uses it with a back strap to apply pinpoint laser light directly to his spinal area prior to training or during recovery. He compares its focused deep penetration to general red light panels and says it markedly improved his spinal flexion and extension. He notes that red light therapy is validated by NFL teams and special forces units, lending credibility beyond anecdote. The device, plus curcumin, largely replaced his need for NSAIDs like Meloxicam for back pain, preserving his hypertrophic response.
vs alternatives
Compared to standard 660 nm red light panels (which he also uses), the laser version penetrates deeper into joints. Compared to NSAIDs, it manages local inflammation without systemic COX inhibition that impairs hypertrophy.
Personal experience
Thomas applies the Kenyan Move Plus to his back before workouts and finds it dramatically reduces stiffness and pain, enabling him to train hard without the anti-inflammatory that was blunting his gains. He calls it 'amazing' and credits it with giving him mobility without the NSAID trade-off.
Insane what it would do with my spinal flexion and extension. There is legit science behind red light therapy at this point. … this Kenyan Move Plus is really cool.
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“It uses red light laser. So, standard 660 nanometer wavelength red light, but concentrated into a laser. So, it's actually penetrating deep into the joint.”— Explains the product's technical differentiator.
Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased
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The moment you open the floodgates, it changes things hormonally. It changes things. And all of a sudden, you're not in the fasted state anymore. you're just in a low calorie state.
Crisp, memorable framing of the distinction between true fasting and low-calorie eating, which is at the heart of a common diet mistake.
I'm unable to truly train my muscles to proper failure if I have to immediately go from a deadlift into a run. There's just no way.
Visceral image that encapsulates the interference effect and why concurrent training undermines hypertrophy.
I would sacrifice hypertrophy because you're blunting the inflammation at the wrong time.
Concise, actionable insight linking NSAID timing directly to muscle gain suppression.
Think about it. I was severely undereating because of the psychological effect of having a meat stick or a protein shake.
Reveals the hidden calorie deficit from seemingly 'clean' protein snacks, a trap many fall into.
It's a perfect example of maybe I'll just have some of my microplastics if I'm actually hydrated because what is the net positive or the net negative here?
Provocative cost-benefit that challenges purity culture and starkly prioritizes hydration over plastic fear.
My carb phobia was hindering my muscle growth, not because carbs are required for muscle, but because I was afraid to have them, but it was what I needed to induce that serotonin response to where I could sleep better.
Connects an arbitrary dietary fear to a real physiological pathway and its downstream impact on muscle.
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