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Limerence Explained: Why Do We Get Addicted To People? - Crappy Childhood Fairy
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Limerence Explained: Why Do We Get Addicted To People? - Crappy Childhood Fairy

Chris Williamson
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Limerence is an addiction-like obsession with an unavailable person, often rooted in childhood emotional neglect, and it functions like a heroin addiction driven by hope and intermittent reinforcement.

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Healing requires treating it as an addiction: cutting all contact, stopping rumination, and using a daily practice of writing down difficult thoughts and feelings followed by restful meditation to return to reality.

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Anna Runkle (the Crappy Childhood Fairy) shares her personal protocol of 'sitting on her hands' and letting the other person pursue, which helped her form a healthy marriage after a history of trauma-driven dating.

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The concept of 'covert avoidance' reveals that limerence is actually a form of avoidance, outsourcing the fear of real intimacy onto an unavailable target.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Cut all contact with the limerent object

WhatCompletely break contact with the person you are obsessed with, including changing jobs if necessary.
WhenWhen you realize you are suffering and cannot get over the person despite trying.
DoseIndefinite; until the obsession is gone.
For whomAnyone stuck in limerence who has been unable to move on.
WhyLimerence is like a heroin addiction; you cannot heal while still getting hits of hope from interaction. Being 'just friends' is usually impossible because the limerent person cannot genuinely consent to a platonic relationship.
CaveatsIt is extremely difficult and may require major life changes. Friends and therapists may not support it, but Anna insists it's necessary.

Anna says if you could just get over it, you would have by now. The secrecy and unrequited nature are what keep the hope alive. She gets pushback that the other person should leave, but she points out that the limerent is the one losing their happiness, so they must take action. She recommends leaving the job if the person is a coworker. This is the first and most critical step.

Mechanism

Eliminates the intermittent reinforcement (texts, glimpses, social media) that fuels the dopamine cycle of hope and despair.

I say treat it as heroin. This is you can't just be friends. You if you can be friends, be friends. If you can just get over it, get over it. But if you could do that, you would have done it by now. And so if you're suffering still, it's time to cut ties.

Also said
“I recommend leave the job. Stop being in contact with the person around whom you can't be yourself. You can't think about anything else.”— Specific, extreme action she endorses.

Stop talking and thinking about the limerent object

WhatAfter cutting contact, actively stop ruminating about the person and stop discussing them with friends.
WhenImmediately after cutting contact.
DoseOngoing; requires vigilance and redirection.
For whomLimerents in recovery.
WhyTalking and thinking about the person fuels the addiction to hope, just as describing a drug high would fuel a substance addiction.
CaveatsIntrusive thoughts will come; you need to remind yourself to stop and have friends who will redirect you.

Anna advises that friends should not indulge the limerent's yammering; they should say they don't want to hear about it because it's disturbing. She removed all sad, unrequited-love songs from her iPod to avoid entertaining that energy. Friends can help by bringing the person back to present time and planning fun, distracting activities.

Mechanism

Reduces the neural reinforcement of the obsession by starving it of attention.

Personal experience

Anna says she took all the sad songs off her iPod and only kept happy or neutral ones.

you have to cut off the talking about it and thinking about it and people are like I can't stop thinking about it I'm like you can just like a person who does heroin needs to stop thinking about it.

Also said
“Your friends should not put up with it. They should say, 'I don't want to hear about it. I know this is, you told me this is an unhealthy thing. I don't want to hear about it.'”— Practical advice for the support system.

Daily writing and meditation practice

WhatWrite down difficult thoughts and feelings on paper twice a day, then follow with a restful meditation.
WhenDaily, faithfully, especially when experiencing emotional distress.
DoseTwice a day or more; each session includes writing then meditating.
For whomAnyone with trauma symptoms, limerence, or emotional dysregulation.
WhyMoves difficult thoughts and feelings out of the mind, allows the mind to recompose, and brings you back to present time and reality.

Anna says this is the technique she was shown and has practiced for 30 years. It is a core part of her book 'Re-Regulated'. She emphasizes that reality is the only place you ever get loved, and this practice helps you return to reality from the fantasy of limerence.

Mechanism

Externalizing thoughts onto paper reduces their grip on the mind; meditation calms the nervous system and restores presence.

Personal experience

Anna states: 'the woman who showed me the techniques that I teach and reeregulated that are like the thing that I've done for 30 years to keep moving.'

You can move your difficult thoughts and feelings out of your mind. Get them on paper and release them twice a day faithfully or more. Follow with a restful meditation and allow your mind to recompose.

Also said
“Reality is the only place you ever get loved. It's the only place. So, it's a beautiful place to come and you got to get out of the dream.”— The philosophical underpinning of the practice.

Sit on your hands and let the other person chase

WhatIn early dating, resist the urge to initiate contact, chase, or come on too strong; let the other person pursue you.
WhenEarly stages of dating, especially if you have a history of anxious attachment or bonding too fast.
DoseUntil a healthy dynamic is established; Anna did it for about 6 months.
For whomPeople with anxious attachment patterns, particularly women who tend to over-pursue.
WhyChasing pushes healthy people away; allowing yourself to be pursued activates a natural, healthy dynamic and prevents you from latching on due to abandonment wounds.
CaveatsIt is not about playing games but about overriding your own dysfunctional bonding patterns. You must act like a person who values herself even if you don't fully feel it yet.

Anna shares her personal story: she met her husband at 42, came on too strong, and he broke up with her. She then asked a formidable male friend from 12-step for help. He coached her to 'sit on my hands. Let information come to me. Don't initiate anything.' She followed this for months, even turning down a last-minute Saturday night invitation by saying she had plans (when she was actually home alone). This shift caused him to gradually come back, and he later told her it made him 'fall back into' her. She emphasizes she did it to overcome her own problem, not to manipulate him.

Mechanism

Interrupts the anxious-avoidant dance by reducing the pursuer's intensity, which allows the other person to step forward and creates space for genuine connection.

Personal experience

Anna recounts the entire story of meeting her husband, being broken up with, getting coached, and the specific moment she said 'No, sorry. I got plans' when he called on a Saturday evening. She says, 'I had to act like a person who valued herself even though I wasn't really totally there yet. And that's how it works.'

I had been coached to date like a proper lady, you know, and don't accept dates after Wednesday. ... I was like, 'No, sorry. I got plans.' ... I didn't do it to mess with him. And I did it to overcome my own problem with latching on and bonding too fast as a result of being totally neglected as a kid.

Also said
“He had broken up with me at that point before and then he was gradually coming back. It really worked. But I had to act like a person who valued herself even though I wasn't really totally there yet.”— Highlights that behavioral change can precede internal healing.

Be openly honest about wanting marriage and commitment

WhatState your relationship goals (e.g., wanting marriage, monogamy, children) early in dating, without apology.
WhenEarly dating, when getting to know someone.
DoseAs soon as appropriate; part of the 'getting to know you' phase.
For whomPeople who desire long-term commitment but fear being seen as 'too much'.
WhySubjugating your true desires to avoid scaring someone off leads to wasting time with the wrong person and erodes self-esteem. You cannot get what you want if you pretend you don't want it.
CaveatsIt doesn't guarantee you'll get it, but you definitely won't if you're dishonest. Life is not Amazon.com.

Anna says most people she coaches, men and women, secretly want to be married, but there's a huge social taboo against saying it. She calls the alternative 'being cool girl'—pretending to be okay with casual situations when you're not. This 'cool girl' act grinds you down and costs precious time. She gives people permission to want what they want and to be open about it.

Mechanism

Filters out incompatible partners early and prevents bonding with someone who doesn't share your goals, reducing the risk of limerence from unrequited hopes.

Personal experience

Anna says learning she could be open about wanting marriage and kids was a huge part of her personal development. She would say, 'I want to get married. I want to have kids. And if you're not into that, goodbye.'

I always start everybody out and say you know could you just describe like what's your heart's desire or what do you most want? And I would say most people, men and women, what they want is to be married. And but there's this huge social taboo. You're not supposed to want that.

Also said
“If I had a nickel for every everybody who came to me because they had been trying to like lie about who they were and how they felt to be okay in the eyes of somebody else, I would have a lot of nickels.”— Emphasizes how common this self-abandonment is.

Delay sex to guard oxytocin bonding

WhatAvoid having sex early in a relationship to prevent neurochemical bonding before you've assessed compatibility.
WhenEarly dating, before you know the person well.
DoseWait until you have a clear sense of the person's character and intentions; Anna doesn't specify a timeline but implies a significant waiting period.
For whomWomen in particular, but also men with attachment wounds.
WhySex releases oxytocin and creates a powerful bond that can override rational judgment, especially in women. This can lock you into a relationship with someone who is wrong for you.
CaveatsLimerence can occur without sex, so this is not a complete safeguard, but it prevents one major bonding mechanism.

Anna says, 'for women even more than men, you have to guard that thing that happens... because it will bond you with somebody whether they're right for you or not, whether you like them or not. It just will, you know, throw you over a cliff.' She advises treating yourself like a drug addict in love, imposing strict rules because your natural judgment is impaired.

Mechanism

Orgasm and physical intimacy trigger oxytocin release, which promotes pair-bonding. In someone with abandonment wounds, this bond can feel like love and make it extremely difficult to leave even if the person is unsuitable.

you have to guard that thing that happens, you know, with your whole neurobiology around sex and oxytocin and orgasm because it will bond you with somebody whether they're right for you or not, whether you like them or not.

Also said
“If you fall easily but leave slowly and you're not sufficiently discerning before falling, uh you kind of need to treat yourself in love like a drug addict or like an unreliable crazy person.”— Reinforces the need for external rules over internal feelings.

Seek help from a formidable, honest person

WhatAsk a trusted, no-nonsense person who will tell you the truth about your behavior to help you change your patterns.
WhenWhen you are stuck in repetitive unhealthy relationship patterns.
DoseAs needed; Anna worked with her mentor for about 6 months to change her dating approach.
For whomAnyone struggling to break free from limerence or trauma-driven dating.
WhySelf-deception is high in limerence and attachment wounds; an external, honest perspective is necessary to see your blind spots and take effective action.
CaveatsChoose someone with integrity and a track record of helping others change, not just someone who will validate you.

Anna shares that she only healed when she asked for help from a 'formidable scary person'—a man she knew from 12-step who had helped dozens of men turn their lives around. He taught her to 'suit up,' set standards, and work the steps. This was instrumental in her eventually marrying her husband. She contrasts this with therapy that just validated her feelings, which she found unhelpful.

Mechanism

Provides accountability, reality-testing, and practical strategies that bypass the distorted thinking of the limerent brain.

Personal experience

Anna says, 'I only ever healed when I asked for help from the most formidable scary person who I knew could see my shit and would tell me the truth about stuff and how I changed.' She describes how this man taught her practical steps like dressing well, setting standards, and doing the 12-step work.

I only ever healed when I asked for help from the most formidable scary person who I knew could see my shit and would tell me the truth about stuff and how I changed.

Also said
“He would teach them to like suit up, you know, dress nicely, go take out a loan and get a proper car that would be appropriate for dating, start to set some standards, and then get to work really hard on the 12 steps.”— Concrete example of the practical, action-oriented help she received.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Limerence as a trauma symptom

Anna reframes limerence not as normal infatuation but as a common trauma symptom, especially in those with childhood neglect or alcoholic parents.

Why this matters: Challenges the romanticized view of obsessive love and ties it directly to developmental trauma and neurological holes from lack of early attunement.

Background

The term was coined in the 1970s by Dorothy Tennov for the early falling-in-love feeling, but Anna argues it has evolved to mean an addiction-level obsession that doesn't go away on its own.

Anna, drawing from hundreds of letters she receives, identifies a common denominator: people stuck in limerence grew up with a lack of enough attention, not being seen or validated as a person. This neglect may have affected neurological development. She references the wire monkey experiment to illustrate that the need for love is so primal we will die for it, and limerence hijacks that instinct. The obsession is not about the other person but about an escape mechanism and a learned pattern of finding love where there is no love, originally a survival mechanism from childhood. She notes that limerence appears across history in literature, showing it's not just a modern phenomenon.

Personal experience

Anna shares that she had a severely alcoholic mother and experienced limerence herself, as well as having people become limerent on her. She says she feels an affinity with others who grew up with alcoholism, calling it a 'tribe'.

Limrance is this handy word for this thing that most people have experienced a little bit of and some people unfortunately have completely like lost their happiness over.

Also said
“I'm in this unique position. I'm not a therapist, but I'm a YouTuber who gets hundreds and hundreds of letters... and the there's a letter that I kept getting over and over again about the same phenomenon where somebody said, 'I grew up in a house with an alcoholic parent and now I'm in love with this guy and uh I can't really tell him. I know he wouldn't be into me and anyway he's married and I can't stop thinking about him and now my whole life is falling apart.'”— Illustrates the direct link between childhood neglect and adult limerence from her audience data.
“Severe neglect teaches you to find love where there is no love. It's like you know daddy and me we you know, he's so special. He can't be here right now and he's violent, but I know he loves me and I'm the best girl to him.”— Explains the psychological origin of the pattern as a childhood survival mechanism.

Covert avoidance

Anna proposes that persistent limerence is actually a form of avoidance, where the person outsources their fear of intimacy by fixating on someone who can't love them back.

Why this matters: Flips the narrative: the limerent person appears to be chasing love but is unconsciously ensuring they never have to face real attachment. She has a forthcoming book on this topic.

Background

Traditionally, limerence is seen as an intense longing for reciprocation. Anna's new framework reinterprets it as an avoidant strategy.

Anna explains that no one who is limerent perceives themselves as avoidant; they feel hungry, chasing, begging. Yet by continuously choosing unavailable people, they guarantee failure. Chris likens it to 'death by cop'—the relational equivalent where you outsource the avoidance so you can see yourself as the good one while the other person holds the power. Anna agrees, noting it's not conscious but a way to assure private failure while avoiding public failure. This avoidance extends to avoiding one's own life and true connection.

if you are continuously getting obsessed with or into a relationship with somebody who can't love you back, you're avoidant. You're avoidant.

Also said
“It's the relational equivalent of death by cop for avoidance.”— Chris's analogy that Anna enthusiastically endorses, capturing the self-destructive outsourcing of avoidance.
“You've outsourced it and now you can perceive yourself as the good one and put the power the locus of control in the other person. Well, you've assured your failure privately by avoiding your failure publicly.”— Anna's elaboration on the psychological payoff of covert avoidance.

Erotization of abandonment

Anna coins the term 'erotization of abandonment' to describe how being left or mistreated becomes sexually and romantically arousing for people with early abandonment wounds.

Why this matters: A new, vivid term that encapsulates why some people are repeatedly drawn to unavailable or mistreating partners.

Background

Attachment theory notes that early caregiver relationships shape adult romantic patterns, but Anna gives this specific, visceral name to the phenomenon.

She explains that if your primary caregiver was abandoning—due to addiction, mental illness, or absence—that abandoning dynamic can become the thing that activates you. You can't help it; it feels like love. This is why the 'bad boy' or unavailable person is so compelling. It's not a conscious choice but an imprint. She ties it to the broader concept of trauma bonding and intermittent reinforcement.

I made up a word for that it's the erotization of abandonment like it only turns you on if you're getting kind of left.

Also said
“Let's say that she was high all the time or gone or you know just troubled had to work all the time crying depressed mentally ill running off with a boyfriend whatever it was then the abandoning relationship can feel you know just it's just the thing that activates you and you can't help it.”— Provides the developmental origin of the pattern.

Addiction to hope

Limerence is not an addiction to the person but to hope itself—the dopamine hit from the possibility of reciprocation after despair.

Why this matters: Reframes the obsession as a biochemical addiction to the variable schedule reward, explaining why it's so hard to break.

Background

Commonly, limerence is seen as love or infatuation. Anna argues it's an addiction cycle.

Anna says the high comes from cresting over from devastation to hope again, like a slot machine. The limerent person doesn't actually want the relationship as much as they want that moment of relief and elation. This is why secrecy and unrequitedness are key: disclosing feelings risks the definitive rejection that would kill hope. She compares it to heroin addiction and says therapy that endlessly discusses the feelings is like asking a heroin addict to describe the high—it fuels the addiction. The only way out is to cut off the supply of hope by cutting contact and stopping rumination.

it's an addiction to hope. That's hope is the dope. It's hope.

Also said
“They don't really like in theory they want to be with the person, but the thing that gives the high is is cresting over from devastation to hope again. That little moment uncertainty to positive reinforcement. So it's like slot machine.”— Clarifies the mechanism of intermittent reinforcement.
“A lot of therapists will totally like spend all the time talking about that, right? Just indulging in whatever this person's issue is. ... That's like when you're addicted to hope, like that's just fueling the addiction.”— Critique of conventional therapy for limerence.

Plastic fruit analogy

Anna uses the metaphor of biting into realistic plastic fruit as a child to illustrate how limerence promises real nourishment but delivers nothing.

Why this matters: A memorable, visceral image that captures the illusion and disappointment of limerence.

She recounts her grandmother's crystal bowl of plastic fruit that she and her cousins couldn't resist biting into, only to find it was fake. She says that's what limerence is like: the person seems like the most beautiful, fulfilling thing, but it's not real. The analogy underscores that the limerent object is a figment of imagination, not the actual person.

Personal experience

Anna shares the childhood memory of biting into the plastic grapes at her nana's house.

it's like plastic fruit... you're just like oh that person is the most beautiful thing you know it's weird.

Also said
“My nana, she was from Brooklyn... she liked to have this baroque living room and there was a bowl this crystal bowl of plastic fruit and as a kid me and my cousins we couldn't resist it we always just like oh those grapes they just look so good and we would bite into them and they were [Music] like that's what it's like.”— The full story behind the analogy.

Charm school for feral girls

Anna identifies a need for basic social and dating education for people who grew up with neglect and never learned the unspoken rules of relationships.

Why this matters: Highlights a gap in conventional advice and her unique perspective as someone who had to learn these skills from scratch.

Background

Mainstream dating advice often assumes a baseline of social knowledge that neglected children never received.

Anna shares that she grew up 'feral'—with a heroin-addicted mother, poor, and without guidance on how to be a human. She learned from bad sources like Cosmo magazine and perfume commercials, which gave terrible advice. She is developing content called 'charm school for feral girls' to teach practical skills. This ties into limerence because without a framework for healthy dating, people are more vulnerable to obsession and bonding with the wrong person.

Personal experience

She recounts stapling together dresses, wearing ice skates as shoes, and taking life advice from a perfume ad that said 'the most irresistible thing to a man is a woman who is helplessly in love with him,' which turned out to be 'totally resistable and weird.'

there needs to be an etiquette book for people who were raised feral. We don't know. We don't know what it's like. How to be a human.

Also said
“I had to learn from stuff like TV. There was this commercial for the perfume anali. And this woman came on and she goes, 'The most irresistible thing to a man is a woman who is helplessly in love with him.' I was like, 'Got it.' Yeah, thanks shameless marketing company. I'll take that as my life strategy. Turns out it's totally resistable and weird.”— Illustrates the harmful advice neglected people may absorb.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (SLAA)

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A 12-step program for people struggling with obsessive love, sex, and relationship patterns. Anna mentions it as a resource for limerence.

Anna notes that SLAA can be helpful but cautions that people with poor boundaries should consider gender-segregated meetings to avoid triggering new obsessions within the group. She herself was involved in 12-step environments and found a mentor there.

Personal experience

Anna met her formidable mentor in a 12-step environment and has been involved in such programs.

they have 12step programs for this. But I think for yeah for obsession okay and um sex and love addicts anonymous is one place but I think it's important for people to maybe go to gender segregated meetings because you know there's nothing like a room yeah a room full of people who are you know have bad boundaries around this stuff and haven't figured it out yet.

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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Hope is the dope. It's hope.
Pithy, memorable reframe of limerence as an addiction to the feeling of hope rather than the person.
It's like plastic fruit... you're just like oh that person is the most beautiful thing you know it's weird.
Vivid, relatable analogy that captures the illusion and disappointment of limerence.
Reality is the only place you ever get loved. It's the only place.
A grounding, almost spiritual truth that underscores the necessity of breaking free from fantasy.
I had to act like a person who valued herself even though I wasn't really totally there yet. And that's how it works.
Honest insight that behavioral change can precede internal healing, countering the idea that you must be fully healed before finding love.
Freedom is just knowing whatever happens, I'll figure it out.
A powerful, concise definition of true confidence and freedom from codependency.

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