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Joe Rogan: On Trump Interview, Media Manipulation, UFC Journey, & DeExtinction | TUH #183
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Joe Rogan: On Trump Interview, Media Manipulation, UFC Journey, & DeExtinction | TUH #183

Gary Brecka
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Gary Brecka, human biologist and host, reveals his insider knowledge of Colossal Biosciences' de-extinction of the dire wolf, birthing three pups from 10,000-year-old DNA.

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He details his morning protocol: a drink of hydrogen water (H2 Tab, delivering consistent 12 ppm), Perfect Aminos, Baja Gold sea salt, and a multivitamin/mineral isotonic pack, claiming it addresses widespread amino acid and mineral deficiencies while hydrogen boosts nutrient absorption.

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He debunks collagen supplements, asserting that eating collagen to build collagen is as illogical as eating nails to grow nails, because collagen is an incomplete protein.

4

He exposes the rapid degradation of electrolysis-based hydrogen water bottles, contrasting them with his tablet technology that remains stable.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Gary Brecka's Morning Hydration & Nutrient Drink

WhatCombine 8-10 oz of water with a quarter to half teaspoon of Baja Gold sea salt, Perfect Aminos powder (quarter to half teaspoon), one isotonic multivitamin/mineral pack, and one H2 Tab hydrogen tablet; drink immediately upon waking.
WhenFirst thing in the morning.
Dose8-10 oz water, ¼–½ tsp sea salt, ¼–½ tsp Perfect Aminos, 1 isotonic pack, 1 H2 Tab.
For whomAnyone, but especially those who suspect amino acid or mineral deficiencies.
WhyHydrate, replenish essential minerals and amino acids, supply vitamins, and leverage hydrogen gas to reduce inflammation and enhance nutrient absorption.
CaveatsNone mentioned.

Gary believes that soil depletion and processed diets have left the majority of people mineral and amino acid deficient, even those consuming adequate protein. This cocktail is designed as a one-step solution: the hydrogen creates a low-inflammation environment, the salt and aminos directly supply missing nutrients, and the vitamins ensure cellular reactions run efficiently. He notes that many 'complete' proteins in the standard American diet are actually incomplete, and that common supplements like collagen are useless for building tissue because they lack essential aminos. By mixing everything with hydrogen water, he feels sharper and cleaner. This is his daily non-negotiable.

Mechanism

Hydrogen (H₂) is the smallest, lightest element and penetrates cells, selectively reducing hydroxyl radicals and oxidative stress. Baja Gold sea salt provides trace minerals (magnesium, potassium, etc.) depleted in modern soils, restoring electrolyte balance. The nine essential amino acids in Perfect Aminos provide the raw material for protein synthesis, bypassing the need for complete dietary proteins. The isotonic vitamin/mineral pack fills micronutrient gaps. Hydrogen is hypothesized to improve the absorption of the other nutrients by reducing gut inflammation and possibly modulating transport mechanisms.

Personal experience

He drinks this exact mixture every morning and reports feeling sharper and cleaner throughout the day.

I'll take an eight or 10 oz glass of water. I always throw perfect aminos in it… quarter to half a teaspoon of Baja Gold sea salt… then I developed something called the ultimate protocol, which is these packs called isotonics… I'll dump a pack of that in there and then always an H2 tab and then that hydrogen gas just improves the absorption of everything.

Also said
“So many of us are mineral and amino acid deficient. That's the issue.”— Justifies the comprehensive approach.
“you can't eat cartilage and grow cartilage.”— Illustrates his rationale that targeting supplements is misguided; the body needs building blocks, not specific tissues.

Hydrogen Water with H2 Tab

WhatDissolve one H2 Tab in drinking water to create 12 ppm molecular hydrogen water.
WhenDaily, ideally in the morning; also use when traveling or whenever you want an anti-inflammatory boost.
DoseOne tablet per serving, yielding 12 parts per million hydrogen.
For whomGeneral population seeking antioxidant support, especially those exposed to high oxidative stress.
WhyReduce systemic inflammation, support energy production, accelerate recovery, and improve brain function.
CaveatsNone mentioned.

Gary contrasts this tablet with the popular rechargeable hydrogen water bottles, which use proton exchange membrane electrolysis. He has personally measured the output of those bottles and found that they degrade rapidly, producing high hydrogen initially but dropping to near zero within months. The H2 Tab ensures consistent ppm every time and is far more portable and cost-effective (under a dollar per day). He calls it his favorite biohack and never travels without it. The technology was developed by his son, who patented a method to compress elemental magnesium safely.

Mechanism

The tablet contains compressed elemental magnesium that reacts with water to release pure hydrogen gas. Molecular hydrogen is a selective antioxidant that scavenges the most damaging free radicals (like hydroxyl radicals) while preserving beneficial reactive oxygen species. It is the lightest element and can diffuse into every cellular compartment, including the mitochondria and nucleus, where it reduces oxidative damage without disrupting signaling.

Personal experience

He uses it every morning and while traveling; after switching from a bottle, he noticed the tabs were more convenient and reliable.

I never travel without this, and it is my favorite biohack.

Also said
“it's the most prevalent element in the universe. It's the lightest element in the universe. It goes anywhere and it just reduces inflammation.”— Explains why hydrogen is physiologically effective.
“the patent holder developed a way of compressing elemental magnesium that will go into water and dissolve and effervesce into pure hydrogen gas. And the cool thing is it makes the same 12 parts per million every single time.”— Details the unique technology and reliability.

Baja Gold Sea Salt for Trace Minerals

WhatAdd a quarter teaspoon of Baja Gold sea salt to water (especially in the morning) or use as cooking seasoning.
WhenFirst thing in the morning in water, or with any meal.
Dose¼ teaspoon per day.
For whomEveryone, particularly those with fatigue, muscle cramps, or poor recovery.
WhyReplenish trace minerals (magnesium, potassium, etc.) that are depleted in modern agricultural soils and missing from processed foods.
CaveatsNone mentioned; implied it’s safe for all.

Gary references the book 'Dead Doctors Don't Lie' which documents how farmers routinely supplement livestock with minerals to keep them healthy, yet humans rarely do the same. He sees mineral deficiency as a root cause of many health issues. Baja Gold is his preferred salt because it tastes great, is cheap, and works both as a daily drink and on food (he demonstrated using it on a grass-fed steak). A $15-20 bag might last five years, making it one of the cheapest biohacks available.

Mechanism

Natural sea salt contains a spectrum of electrolyte minerals essential for nerve conduction, muscle contraction, and fluid balance. Modern farming practices and food processing strip these minerals, leading to widespread subclinical deficiencies. Adequate sodium and co-factors support adrenal function and hydration at the cellular level.

Personal experience

He uses it in his morning drink and to season meats, and notices a clean, pleasant taste.

A quarter teaspoon of this in water first thing in the morning will make sure that you get all of the essential minerals that you need.

Also said
“Most of us are not just protein deficient, meaning amino acid deficient or fatty acid deficient. We are mineral deficient.”— Establishes the prevalence of the problem the salt addresses.

Supplement with Perfect Aminos

WhatTake a quarter to half a teaspoon of Perfect Aminos powder daily, ideally mixed into water with other supplements.
WhenMorning, alongside the hydration drink.
Dose¼–½ teaspoon.
For whomIndividuals with insufficient protein quality, those seeking better recovery, or anyone wanting to ensure protein synthesis is not limited by amino acid availability.
WhyProvide all nine essential amino acids in the correct ratios to overcome dietary deficiencies and support tissue repair and muscle synthesis.
CaveatsNone mentioned.

Gary differentiates between eating protein and getting sufficient amino acids. Processed and even some whole proteins (like collagen) lack one or more EAAs. He uses the analogy that eating collagen to build collagen is like eating nails to grow nails—it doesn’t work. The Perfect Aminos formulation is designed to cover the full EAA profile, turning any meal into a complete protein source. He ties this into his overall morning protocol where hydrogen improves absorption of these aminos.

Mechanism

Essential amino acids (EAAs) cannot be synthesized by the body and must come from diet. Many whole-food protein sources are incomplete or poorly absorbed. Direct EAA supplementation bypasses digestion limitations and provides the precise substrates for mTOR pathway activation and protein translation. Gary argues that muscle, skin, and other tissues are built from amino acids, not from eating the tissue itself (hence collagen’s failure).

Personal experience

He mixes Perfect Aminos into his morning drink every day.

I always throw perfect aminos in it. It's got all nine of the essential amino acids.

Also said
“we think that we can eat collagen to grow collagen. You can't.”— Directly supports the rationale for using isolated EAAs over collagen.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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De-extinction of the dire wolf by Colossal Biosciences

Colossal has successfully birthed three living dire wolves, a species extinct for 10,000 years, using ancient DNA from skulls and a surrogate wolf species; the news was prematurely broken by The New Yorker.

Why this matters: First known revival of a mammal extinct for millennia, with unexpected traits like white fur and manes; Gary Brecka had insider access as a scientific advisor.

Background

Colossal previously generated headlines with a woolly mouse and is working on the thylacine and woolly mammoth. The dire wolf project was kept secret until the New Yorker violated an embargo with Time magazine.

Colossal sequenced DNA from two dire wolf skulls separated by thousands of years and a tooth, stitching together a genome with some proteins no longer existing. They inserted this reconstructed DNA into a modern wolf species surrogate and produced three healthy pups that are stocky, all-white, and have lion-like manes — a phenotype nobody predicted. Gary, who sits on the scientific advisory board, saw the wolves on video while bound by an NDA. The New Yorker broke the embargo, forcing the podcast episode to drop early. The company is also reviving red wolves with greater genetic diversity than the wild population, and Ben Lamm has discussed the theoretical possibility of “designer dinosaurs” by combining bird and reptile DNA. Ethical concerns about bringing back species and what happens if this technology is misused were raised, including the prospect of resurrecting Neanderthals or other hominins.

Personal experience

Gary Brecka was shown secret footage of the dire wolves, described them as the craziest things he’d ever seen, and had to keep the information confidential until the embargo was broken.

they have actually birthed the first two direwolves which have been extinct, three direwolves, which have been extinct for 10,000 years.

Also said
“The New Yorker wasn't supposed to put it out. They had an embargo and they decided to jump the gun and get it out before everybody and they put it out today.”— Reveals the corporate media ethics breach that forced the early announcement.
“the last woolly mammoths died off… they think one of the reasons why they died off is the lack of genetic variation. So these red wolves that they've been able to create… have more genetic variation than the ones that are actually in the wild.”— Shows the broader conservation goal of increasing genetic diversity.
“he was explaining how it could be done… you could change all of the characteristics of it… you could actually design like a T-Rex.”— Highlights the speculative frontier of synthetic biology.

Hydrogen water bottle efficacy loss

Gary's measurements show that proton-exchange-membrane hydrogen water bottles produce high ppm initially but degrade to near zero within months.

Why this matters: Challenges the popularity of expensive rechargeable hydrogen bottles; supports his tablet alternative.

Background

Many biohackers rely on electrolysis hydrogen bottles to create hydrogen-rich water for its antioxidant effects. Gary himself once used such bottles but switched after observing inconsistent output.

Gary quantifies the drop: brand-new bottles he measured produced high ppm hydrogen, but the same bottles five or six months later made ‘barely any’. He attributes the degradation to pressure-induced wear on the proton exchange membrane. By contrast, his son’s H2 Tab uses compressed elemental magnesium that effervesces in water, reliably generating 12 ppm every time. This ensures users get the advertised anti-inflammatory dose, eliminating the false sense of security that bottle users may experience. His finding implies that many hydrogen water consumers are unknowingly drinking plain water.

Personal experience

Gary originally carried a hydrogen water bottle after his previous podcast with Joe Rogan, then switched to the tabs after discovering the degradation issue.

some of these bottles I've measured the day that you get it and it's making high part per million hydrogen water and then five or six months later it's making barely not any.

Also said
“they're under pressure and that proton exchange membrane, which is using an electrolysis to create the hydrogen gas, after a while it starts to break down.”— Explains the biological mechanism of failure.

Collagen supplements do not build collagen

Gary argues that eating collagen to increase skin or joint collagen is a myth; collagen is an incomplete protein that cannot be directly converted into tissue collagen.

Why this matters: Contradicts a multi-billion-dollar supplement industry and a common wellness narrative.

Background

Collagen powders and pills are widely marketed for skin, hair, and joint health. The belief that ingested collagen is selectively routed to connective tissue persists in popular health culture.

Gary draws a vivid analogy: expecting dietary collagen to become collagen in your body is like eating your own nails to grow nails, or eating cartilage to grow cartilage. All proteins, including collagen, are broken down into amino acids in the gut, and the body reassembles those amino acids according to its own blueprint. Because collagen lacks the full spectrum of essential amino acids, it is an incomplete protein that cannot support muscle building or targeted tissue repair. He emphasizes that a complete essential amino acid supplement provides the actual building blocks the body needs, without the false promise of direct incorporation.

That's like thinking I'm going to eat my nails and grow my nails.

Also said
“Collagen is going to become the same thing that any other source of protein. It's an incomplete protein that you can't build muscle from it.”— Further clarifies the nutritional inadequacy of collagen.
“You don't eat your nails to grow your nails. You don't eat your hair to grow your hair.”— Reinforces the central analogy against targeted tissue consumption.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Baja Gold Sea Salt

Product

A mineral-rich sea salt used as a daily trace mineral supplement.

Gary positions Baja Gold as a cheap, accessible biohack to correct the widespread mineral deficiency he claims afflicts most people. He uses it as a morning drink and on food, and argues that modern soils are so depleted that even a good diet may lack essential minerals. He invoked the book Dead Doctors Don't Lie to underscore the point that animals are supplemented but humans are not. A single bag can last years, making it extremely cost-effective.

vs alternatives

Implied to be superior to regular table salt or refined sea salt, which lack trace minerals.

Personal experience

He uses it in his morning drink and sprinkled on grass-fed steak, enjoying the taste.

Baja Gold sea salt. It's got all of the trace minerals that the body needs… a $15 or $20 bag of this will probably last you five years. This is literally the world's best biohacking secret.

Also said
“Most of us are not just protein deficient… We are mineral deficient.”— Sets up the need for a mineral supplement like Baja Gold.
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Perfect Aminos

Supplement

An essential amino acid powder that provides all nine EAAs; recommended as a daily supplement to overcome protein quality limitations.

Gary often pairs Perfect Aminos with his morning drink, arguing that many people eat enough protein but still suffer amino acid deficiency because their protein sources are incomplete. He specifically contrasts it with collagen, which he dismisses as useless for building tissue. The product is intended to supply the raw materials for muscle synthesis, skin repair, and overall protein turnover.

vs alternatives

Compared to collagen powders and whole-food protein, Perfect Aminos directly delivers all EAAs without requiring digestion of incomplete proteins.

Personal experience

He takes it every morning as part of his hydration cocktail.

I always throw perfect aminos in it… it's got all nine of the essential amino acids.

Also said
“we have these protein equivalents to try to get to the amino acids, but a lot of us are amino acid deficient.”— Explains why an isolated EAA supplement is needed.
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Dead Doctors Don't Lie by Dr. Joel Wallach

Book

A book about mineral deficiencies and how they impact health, referenced during discussion of mineral supplementation.

Gary cites the book to support his claim that modern humans are broadly mineral deficient. The book argues that farmers routinely supplement livestock with minerals to maintain their health, yet this practice is largely ignored for humans. Gary found the comparative parallel compelling and uses it to justify his recommendation of mineral salt and targeted supplementation.

Dead Doctors Don't Lie? All about mineral deficiencies… they supplement the minerals in the farm animals to make them healthier, but we don't do it with humans.

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H2 Tab Hydrogen Water Tablets

Product Sponsored · disclosed

Portable tablets that generate 12 ppm molecular hydrogen water when dropped into a glass. Sold via drinkh2tab.com.

DisclosureGary Brecka’s son is the founder of H2 Tab, and Gary openly promotes it on his podcast.

Gary positioned H2 Tab as superior to rechargeable hydrogen water bottles, which he says lose potency quickly. The tablet technology delivers consistent therapeutic hydrogen without the need for electronics or maintenance. He uses it every day and takes it while traveling. The patent involves compressed elemental magnesium that effervesces in water. He believes the anti-inflammatory and absorption-boosting effects make it a cornerstone of any health regime.

vs alternatives

Compared to hydrogen water bottles, H2 Tab offers consistent ppm, no degradation, greater portability, and lower cost.

Personal experience

He originally used a hydrogen water bottle after his first podcast with Joe Rogan but switched to H2 Tab after testing both.

It's actually my son's company… the patent holder developed a way of compressing elemental magnesium that will go into water and dissolve and effervesce into pure hydrogen gas. And the cool thing is it makes the same 12 parts per million every single time.

Also said
“I used to carry this hydrogen water bottle around… But this is way better.”— Endorsement from personal comparison.
“It's so much easier to travel with.”— Highlights practical convenience.
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Ultimate Human VIP Community & 10-Month Course

Service Sponsored · disclosed

A private community offering exclusive podcasts, monthly live Q&A calls with Gary, discounts on health products, and a comprehensive 10-month biohacking curriculum (Becoming the Ultimate Human).

DisclosureGary Brecka's own membership program.

The VIP membership costs less than a daily coffee, according to Gary, and includes his personal protocols for water fasting, gut health, and optimization. The 10-month course covers nighttime and morning routines, sleep hacks, cold plunging, sun exposure, grounding, breathwork, and whole-food dieting — all with the stated goal of turning members into their ultimate selves. Members also get VIP discounts on the supplements he uses. He frames it as an investment in transformation, not just information, because he believes information without application is just entertainment.

vs alternatives

Positioned as a more interactive and supportive alternative to generic online courses or passive social media scrolling.

Personal experience

He hosts the calls and developed the course based on his own routines and research.

Information without application is just entertainment. That's why I don't just create another course or another program. I've created a living, breathing community that evolves with you.

Also said
“The 10-month Becoming the Ultimate Human course alone is worth the entire annual membership.”— Quantifies the value proposition.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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Information without application is just entertainment.
Captures his action-oriented philosophy and why he created a community instead of just a course.
That's like thinking I'm going to eat my nails and grow my nails.
Memorable, visceral analogy dismantling the collagen supplement myth.
Most of us are not just protein deficient, meaning amino acid deficient or fatty acid deficient. We are mineral deficient.
Succinctly states the three macro-deficiencies he believes underpin modern poor health.
One cares for the host and one is going after the villain.
A striking metaphor for the difference between functional medicine and conventional medicine.
The New Yorker wasn't supposed to put it out. They had an embargo and they decided to jump the gun and get it out before everybody and they put it out today. … they're furious.
Reveals behind-the-scenes tension and media ethics breach around a major scientific announcement.
If you've never seen tobacco get cut. It's the hardest manual labor you'll ever do. … five of these plants weigh about 60 pounds. And you got to push the plant over and cut it with a machete.
Vivid personal story that illustrates his blue-collar upbringing and the motivation to seek a non-manual career.

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