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Jesse Itzler & Devon Levesque: On Life Design, The Misogi Ritual and Winning Routines | TUH #245
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Jesse Itzler & Devon Levesque: On Life Design, The Misogi Ritual and Winning Routines | TUH #245

Gary Brecka
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Jesse Itzler prescribes a yearly 'misogi' — one massive, defining challenge — plus six mini-adventures (Kevin's Rule) to systematically stack meaningful experiences and avoid regret.

2

Devon Levesque filters every opportunity through five non-negotiables (family, health, community, freedom of time, giving back) and red-lines everything else, creating a ruthless life-design system.

3

Gary Brecka shifted his morning to schedule sleep and exercise first; this 'selfish 90 minutes' of silence and movement gave him focus, energy, and problem-solving clarity.

4

Jesse's 'spiritual billionaire' concept shows that enthusiasm, caring, and attitude multiply life's value without a dollar — a dollar times a billion in spirit is still a billion.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Misogi (year-defining challenge)

WhatComplete one massive, difficult physical or mental challenge each year that defines that year.
WhenOnce per year; suggest planning it at the start or end of each year.
DoseOne challenge annually, lasting hours to multiple days (e.g., 36-hour Everest climb event).
For whomAnyone stuck in routine or craving a more adventurous life; Jesse started in his 30s and continues in his 50s.
WhyCreates newness, a marker of accomplishment, breaks routine, builds memories, and provides a 'carrot' that fuels motivation and hard work leading up to it.
CaveatsChoose something with a 50/50 chance of completion; it should stretch you, not be a guaranteed win. Logistically demanding, so planning is essential.

The misogi is an ancient Japanese ritual adapted by Itzler into a modern tool. He argues that as people age, routine replaces newness and most are controlled by others' requests. By intentionally inserting one huge thing annually, he can look back at any year and instantly recall 2015 (Living with a Seal), 2022 (bike across America), etc. This avoids the problem where 'work life balance is so out of whack' and you have nothing to show. He also notes the social compound effect: the same group of 10 guys who do these adventures together become incredibly close—'one adventure is like 10 years of sitting at a cubicle'.

Personal experience

Jesse Itzler's own misogis include living with a Navy SEAL for 30 days, biking across America, climbing the height of Everest in 36 hours, running rim-to-rim-to-rim at the Grand Canyon. Devon Levesque credits Itzler for inspiring him to add misogis like bear-crawling the NYC marathon and climbing Mount Everest.

There's an old Japanese ritual called the misogi. And the notion around a misogi is you do one big year defining thing every year. … if you don't have one thing to show for your year like your work life balance is so out of whack.

Also said
“I can go back all the way to 20 forever and be like 2015 I wrote Living with a Seal 2022 I rode my bike across America 2020 like every year I try to have one big year defining thing.”— Demonstrates the real-world track record of misogis.
“He's willing to work harder now because he knows he's gonna get a reward to a trip for Africa for 14 days with his buddies. He's willing to go crazy for 60 days to earn that trip.”— Highlights the motivational carrot effect of a scheduled big adventure.

Kevin's Rule (mini adventures)

WhatEvery other month, schedule one small adventure or activity you normally wouldn't do (e.g., fishing instead of watching a game, attending a lecture).
WhenEvery two months (six per year).
DoseOne day per mini adventure.
For whomAnyone wanting to add variety without huge commitment; complements the yearly misogi.
WhyBreaks routine, injects newness regularly, and over years stacks a huge number of experiences (180 mini adventures in 30 years) that otherwise would not happen.
CaveatsRequires intentional planning; must resist defaulting to familiar comforts.

Jesse Itzler named it after his friend Kevin who introduced the idea. He explains that without a system, people lack time for novel experiences; with the rule, even a busy person accumulates 6 new things per year. Coupled with the misogi, the compound effect is staggering: 30 misogis + 180 mini adventures over 30 years. This counters the societal script that says once you have kids and a career, fun stops; Itzler says his 50s have been the opposite—investing in experiences yields energy, community, and interestingness that can lead to professional opportunities (he gives the example of Devon telling Africa stories at work and getting a promotion).

Personal experience

Jesse does this himself; Devon Levesque was inspired to plan 2-3 big adventures annually and schedule his calendar around them.

Every other month, I call it Kevin's rule. … Every other month, I do one little mini venture. I plan intentionally a mini adventure that I normally wouldn't do.

Also said
“If I did one mogi, one year defining thing, and took six mini adventures in just those 30 years, I'd have 30 year defining things and 180 mini adventures I wouldn't have had. So when you start to stack that's freaking amazing journey.”— Quantifies the long-term payoff of stacking small adventures.

Big Ass Calendar (visual annual planning)

WhatPrint or display all 365 days on one large sheet and block out family time, holidays, adventures, and health priorities before any work commitments.
WhenAt the beginning of each year; review and update regularly.
DoseOne physical calendar, reviewed weekly/monthly.
For whomHighly visual planners, families with multiple commitments, entrepreneurs.
WhyGives a visual of the whole year, reveals gaps and overcommitments, ensures that what matters most gets scheduled first rather than being squeezed out.
CaveatsRequires discipline to honor the blocks; you must actually hand it to your team to fill in work around the pre-set personal items.

Gary Brecka adopted this after hearing Itzler and loves that it forces him to schedule family (time in Colorado, birthdays, holidays) before work. Itzler says it enables you to 'see where you have gaps in your time' and treat your year like a picture. The calendar becomes a tool not just for planning but for negotiation with your own guilt—you can see where you are neglecting certain areas. The system is backed by the philosophy of being 'selfish in the morning' and giving the rest of your day away, mirroring the idea that you design the life you want and then fit work around it.

Personal experience

Gary Brecka's family now uses it; he shares his wife's reaction: 'we scheduled things by family, our time in Colorado… holidays, birthdays, and then work'. Itzler uses it himself to anchor his year.

You have all 365 days on one piece of paper, but you can track towards your goals. You can see where you have gaps in your time. You can literally see where you're spending time and not spending time.

Also said
“This is the first time that we've ever done this. And when I talk about what an impact you've made on our lives, I mean you really have.”— Gary's personal testimony to its impact.

Morning selfish time (sleep + exercise first)

WhatSchedule sleep and exercise as the first items on your daily calendar; protect the first 90 minutes of the day for yourself before giving time to others.
WhenEvery morning.
Dose~90 minutes of quiet, movement, or sauna/cold plunge before engaging with work or family demands.
For whomAnyone feeling frazzled, depleted, or like they're constantly reacting to life; especially effective for those with ADHD tendencies (Gary's case).
WhyEnsures you fill your own cup first, improves focus, energy, and creativity; reduces resentment toward others' demands.
CaveatsMay require waking earlier; the initial silence can be extremely uncomfortable for people unused to being alone with their thoughts.

Gary Brecka implemented this six years ago after realizing that waking up and immediately 'giving his day away' to spouse, career, kids, and coworkers left him depleted. By putting sleep and then exercise on the calendar first, he flipped the script: be selfish in the morning, then generously give the rest. The space also taught him to sit in silence—something he found excruciating with ADHD—and that silence became a crucible for his best ideas and problem-solving. This small shift amplified itself enormously: he now sees things more clearly, has more energy, and is a better husband and father. The protocol dovetails with Itzler's idea that if you 'check the Jesse box' (get your personal wins like sauna and cold plunge), you are happy to go along with anything else.

Mechanism

The silence and lack of stimulus allow the default mode network in the brain to consolidate thoughts, often surfacing creative solutions. The exercise provides a metabolic and neurochemical reset, reducing inflammation and priming neurotransmitter systems for better mood and cognitive function.

Personal experience

Gary Brecka drives to his son's house every morning to workout together, then often sauna and cold plunges. He has never missed a game when his kids played sports. He describes setting a goal to simply sit in silence, which was difficult initially but now yields problem-solving insights.

I started scheduling all of my meetings and travel around sleep and exercise. … That shift alone, because the idea that you could be selfish in the morning and then give the rest of your day away.

Also said
“I actually set a goal of like trying to teach myself to just sit in silence and like some of the greatest ideas like problem solving has come to me during that time.”— Shows the unplanned cognitive benefit beyond just health.
“I will miss just about anything. I'll be late to a meeting but I will never be late for a workout with my son.”— Demonstrates the non-negotiable priority once the habit is built.

Sauna and cold plunge (Gary Brecka's daily ritual)

WhatAlternate between hot sauna and cold plunge in a single session.
WhenDaily, typically after morning workout.
DoseMinimum three rounds: 15 minutes sauna, then cold plunge, repeated 3 times.
For whomThose with access to sauna and cold water; Gary attempts daily.
WhyBoosts endorphins, reduces inflammation, improves recovery, and creates a reflective silence that organizes thoughts.
CaveatsConsult doctor if cardiovascular issues; cold exposure requires acclimation.

Gary Brecka is a daily user; he and Jesse Itzler both swear by it. Itzler mentions that in the sauna he calls for a 'moment of silence' where everyone sits quietly for three minutes—this mental clarity is as valued as the physical benefits. Devon Levesque notes it as a 'drug of choice' because nothing makes you feel better for longer. The practice couples the physiological hormetic stress of heat and cold with the meditative quiet, aligning with the broader theme of designing intentional 'white space' in your day.

Mechanism

Heat exposure activates heat shock proteins and increases nitric oxide; cold induces vasoconstriction, then vasodilation upon rewarming, improving circulation and lymphatic drainage. The alternation creates a cardiovascular workout and triggers a massive release of norepinephrine and endorphins.

Personal experience

Gary Brecka says, 'I'm an everyday guy, you know, three rounds, 15 minutes in, dunk in the cold, go back in minimum three innings.' Both he and Itzler report that the sauna silence lets thoughts 'come together' and life 'starts to make sense.'

Three minutes. Silence is the best. The best, dude. I love that. Silence. no talking and your thoughts just come together.

Also said
“Nothing makes you feel better for longer. I can still tell right this moment that we worked out and did a sauna and did a cold plunge in the morning.”— Emphasizes the long-lasting post-exercise and thermal contrast high.

Phone detox (no phone for 7–10 days)

WhatCompletely disconnect from your phone and social media for 7–10 days to reset your brain's dependence and discover clarity.
WhenPeriodically, e.g., during a retreat or intentionally chosen period.
Dose7–10 days without a phone.
For whomAnyone feeling overconnected, distracted, or unable to sit with their own thoughts.
WhyRemoves dopamine-triggering distractions, forces stillness, and allows the brain to make sense of thoughts without constant input; highlights how much time is lost to screens.
CaveatsMay cause initial anxiety; not suitable if emergency contact is essential; some retreats (like Hoffman Institute) also prohibit exercise, which may not suit everyone.

Devon Levesque and Jesse Itzler talk about the Hoffman Institute, where phones are taken for seven days and participants also cannot exercise forced stillness. Devon acknowledges he couldn't do the no-exercise part, but raves about the phone detox: 'It's really insane what happens when you don't have your phone for seven days and you're just writing… your brain just starts to make sense.' The broader point is that constant stimulus blocks the 'aha moments' that come from boredom or silence. The practice is a radical version of their general advice to break routine and seek newness by walking a different route or trying a new gym.

Mechanism

Constant phone use overstimulates dopaminergic pathways, reducing baseline dopamine and attention span. Detox allows receptors to resensitize, restoring the ability to find satisfaction in slower-paced activities and deepening introspection.

Personal experience

Devon Levesque has done a seven-day phone-free retreat; Jesse's wife did the Hoffman Institute. Gary Brecka hasn't, but acknowledges the value.

Do a phone detox. Don't go to your phone for 10 days. See what happens if you don't.

Also said
“It's really insane what happens when you don't have your phone for seven days and you're just writing and you're not allowed to work out… and it your brain just starts to make sense more.”— Describes the cognitive reset effect.

Devon's five-value filter

WhatAny opportunity, person, or activity must align with your core values (Devon's: family, health, community, freedom of time, giving back). If not, it's a hard no.
WhenApply to every decision, daily.
DoseAll decisions, all year.
For whomAnyone overwhelmed by choices or feeling their schedule is hijacked; especially young entrepreneurs.
WhyEliminates decision fatigue, protects time for what matters, and ensures life is designed around non-negotiables.
CaveatsRequires crystal clarity on values; may mean turning down financially attractive offers.

Devon Levesque was feeling stressed in his mid-20s when mentor Johnny Martin asked him what he cared about no matter what. After a week of reflection, he came back with five values. Martin told him to write on a whiteboard: 'If a person, place or thing isn't adding value to your life from a community, family, health, giving back standpoint, then they're taking value from you.' Devon then went through his calendar with a red and green marker, X-ing out everything unrelated—half his day disappeared. Since then, he has been ruthless, even if an opportunity would make a lot of money. The only exception: if Jesse Itzler calls, he drops everything because that adventure aligns with all five values. This system frees him from regret and keeps his life intentional.

Personal experience

Devon used red/green markers on his calendar and saw half his commitments were not value-aligned. He now says no to many lucrative opportunities because they don't check the boxes.

If a person, place or thing isn't adding value to your life from a community, family, health, giving back standpoint, then they're taking value from you.

Also said
“I immediately looked at my calendar and like half my day was gone and I'm like, 'Wow.' Like none of this shit really matters. And I was like, 'Cool.'”— Shows the immediate impact of the filter on his schedule.
“I don't care what the opportunity is. If it does not hit on one of my values, then I'm just not doing it.”— Demonstrates the unwavering nature of the rule.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Spiritual billionaire concept

Jesse Itzler introduces the idea that financial success is multiplied by spiritual wealth (attitudes, kindness, enthusiasm), and zero spirit nullifies any fortune, while high spirit can elevate even modest means.

Why this matters: Reframes success to include a free, choosable dimension that many neglect, making fulfillment accessible to everyone.

Background

Standard business culture overindexes on financial metrics while ignoring the 'spiritual side' — philanthropy, culture, adventure, how you treat people.

Itzler argues that people are taught to chase dollars, but the real multiplier is the intangible side: how you show up with customers, the enthusiasm you bring, whether you're nice. He notes that in the mortality space, isolation cuts lifespan dramatically, so connection and community are survival imperatives. He wants to redefine success as not just financial but a product: money x spirit. If your spirit is zero, a billion dollars is zero; but with $1 and a billion in spirit, you're a billionaire. This is not new-age fluff—it's a direct counter to the loneliness and superficial metrics of modern life. Devon Levesque's constant enthusiasm is the practical example.

If you have a billion dollars, but your spirit zero, a billion times zero zero. But if you just have $1, and I know a lot of people that are in this bucket, if you just have $1, but your spirit is a billion, a dollar times a billion is a billion.

Also said
“Devon's superpower, one of them, he has a lot, but one of his biggest superpowers is enthusiasm.”— Shows that enthusiasm is the living example of spiritual wealth.
“Attitudes are free. Those are decisions.”— Reinforces that the spiritual multiplier is entirely within one's control.

Friend reduction and starting the year light

Jesse Itzler enters the new year by actively cutting energy-draining friends and decluttering his physical space (starting with his closet) to feel 'light'.

Why this matters: An anti-hustle, countercultural approach: success isn't more connections, it's curating them ruthlessly for energy.

Background

Social networks encourage accumulation of contacts; the cultural norm is to add, not subtract. Itzler pushes against that.

I'm on friend reduction right now. And I'm bringing in people that give me the energy and getting rid of the people that take it away.

Also said
“I want to walk in the new year clean… I don't want to carry all the baggage from 2025 with me. That means deleting my emails, getting rid of subscriptions, getting rid of all the apps I don't use. But it starts in my closet.”— Connects mental lightness to physical decluttering.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Rhythm constant glucose monitor (and blood spot test)

Tool

Devon slapped a blood test device (Rhythm-brand CGM and a blood spot card) on Gary Brecka during breakfast to check his hormones and glucose. Gary was intrigued and sent the sample to a lab.

Personal experience

Gary Brecka tried it on the spot: 'I start dripping blood into this little vial and by the time I was done making eggs I had a vial of blood … I was like dude this is really cool shit.'

Devin slaps this blood test on me in this little it was like a constant glucose monitor called rhythm and and I start dripping blood into this little vial.

Find Rhythm

Big Ass Calendar (physical year-at-a-glance wall calendar)

Tool

A large paper calendar showing 365 days on one sheet. Used to block family, adventures, and health first, then let work fill the gaps. Mentioned as transformative by Gary Brecka.

You have all 365 days on one piece of paper, but you can track towards your goals. You can see where you have gaps in your time.

Find Big
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H2 Tab (hydrogen water tablets)

Supplement Sponsored · disclosed

Gary uses hydrogen water to reduce inflammation, boost cognitive function, and improve recovery. He claims the tablets generate 12 ppm molecular hydrogen, among the highest concentrations. He reports increased mental clarity and energy during the podcast, jokingly attributing it to hydrogen.

DisclosureGary Brecka promotes H2 Tab as part of his daily routine; ad read is included in the transcript and he likely has a financial relationship.

Brecka describes hydrogen water as a science-backed biohack with over 1300 published studies showing benefits for oxidative stress, energy, recovery, and brain function. He states that inflammation in the brain slows transmission speed, and hydrogen water reduces that inflammation, thereby increasing focus and mental sharpness. Throughout the recording, he and the guests feel a noticeable effect—Jesse Itzler exclaims 'I feel like I got a blood transfusion' and 'My cognitive function is four times as fast.' Brecka positions H2 Tab as cost-effective (<$1/day) and portable, part of his daily routine.

vs alternatives

Compared to other hydrogen water systems, he claims the tablets are ultra-clean and high-concentration without the need for expensive machines.

Personal experience

Gary drinks hydrogen water every day and gives it to guests; he says he feels a tangible lift in mood and cognition. Jesse and Devon both experience an immediate subjective high.

I'm a huge believer in the benefits of hydrogen water. H2 Tab delivers cost effective portable tablets that generate ultra clean molecular hydrogen at 12 parts per million.

Also said
“I just drank this glass of water. I feel like I got a blood transfusion.”— Jesse's visceral reaction, suggesting potency.
“When inflammation drops in your brain, the transmission speed picks up and it's like focus, energy, concentration, mental clarity, short-term recall. It's just right there.”— Brecka's explanation of the cognitive mechanism.
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Promix (supplements: grass-fed whey, fish oil, beet root, gut health blend)

Supplement Sponsored · disclosed

Promix started as a clean, no-artificial-ingredient supplement brand, featuring grass-fed whey protein from a farm whose cheese won world's best, wild-caught Alaskan salmon and cod liver oil, and beets dried at 106°F for 20x nutrient absorption. Devon's father was a pro weightlifter and mother a pro arm wrestler, giving him a lifelong immersion in fitness nutrition.

DisclosureDevon Levesque is the founder of Promix; he discusses its creation and sourcing.

Devon and his co-founder Albert focused on ingredient sourcing with total transparency: they visited farms, saw milking practices, and travel the world to find unique ingredients like baobab from Africa (high vitamin C, potassium, prebiotics) and high-quality turmeric. Their beet product is dried at low temperature to preserve nitrates that convert to nitric oxide, giving a notable pre-workout pump. The brand grew by caring more than competitors and sharing the story behind each ingredient, a philosophy that mirrors Itzler's 'caring the most' secret weapon. Gary Brecka's daughter and son independently adopted Promix products, which Devon takes as the ultimate word-of-mouth endorsement.

vs alternatives

Unlike many supplement brands that use contract manufacturers and proprietary blends, Promix claims to directly source from specific farms and use minimal processing to preserve nutrients.

Personal experience

Gary's nurse daughter and pro athlete son both use Promix bars and probiotics; Devon has used protein and supplements since childhood.

Everything has a story. It's not we're not using a manufacturer. We just fucking care. My dad was a pro weight lifter. My mom was a pro arm wrestler and like I've been taking vitamins and protein and working out and being on farm my whole life.

Also said
“Our cheese got ranked number one in the world. And so we had the best grass-fed whey protein in the world.”— Establishes the quality claim that put them on the map.
“We dry them at 106°. And so that allows 97% of the nutrients to actually be absorbed in your body. So those are 20 times more absorbable.”— Details the process behind the beet root's high bioavailability.
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Sweet Honey Farms (wellness farm/retreat)

Service Sponsored · disclosed

A micro-farm concept where people can take off shoes, touch soil, eat vegetables right from the garden, and experience farm-to-table food. It's a disruptive antidote to sterile city life and processed food, aligning with Devon's values of community and health.

DisclosureDevon Levesque runs Sweet Honey Farms, a farm-to-table retreat where visitors can connect with nature.

These micro farms where you're growing your own food. You're actually providing farm-to-table food for people. A place where they can take their shoes off, touch the soil, put their hands in dirt, eat vegetables right out of the garden.

Find Sweet

Living with a Seal by Jesse Itzler

Book Sponsored · disclosed

The book chronicles Itzler's experience hiring a Navy SEAL to live with his family for a month, which later became a multi-year relationship with David Goggins. It's the origin of many of his mindsets on discipline and simplicity.

DisclosureJesse Itzler is the author; he references it as one of his year-defining accomplishments.

2015 I wrote Living with a Seal.

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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People aren't lacking time. They're lacking a system.
Distills the entire episode's philosophy into one line: the problem is never time scarcity, it's the absence of a personal operating system.
I want to die young as late as possible.
Memorable, contrarian fusion of longevity and vitality; Itzler later reveals it's the title of his next book.
You bond so much more with people through experiences than you do sitting at a cubicle. One adventure is like 10 years of sitting at a cubicle.
Quantifies the relationship depth that shared hardships create, a core argument for misogi-style living.
I remember when I was growing up someone told me he would rather make a quarter himself than a dollar with that guy. At 23 I was like what? But I understood that later on. Pigs get slaughtered.
A sharp business lesson on greed vs. aligned partnerships, delivered with a stark aphorism.
All you'll get out of life are your family, your friends, and a few good times. Thank you.
A speech from an 80-something fraternity founder that Gary Brecka still gets goosebumps from—condenses ultimate wisdom into a single sentence.
Attitudes are free. Those are decisions.
Reinforces the spiritual billionaire concept: the qualities that amplify life cost nothing and are entirely volitional.

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