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Why Are Women Chronically Under-Eating Protein - and How Much Do You Actually Need?
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Why Are Women Chronically Under-Eating Protein - and How Much Do You Actually Need?

Stacy Sims
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TL;DR

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TL;DR

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Stacy Sims recommends women consume 1.8–2.3 g of protein per kilogram of body weight daily (roughly 1–1.2 g/lb), distributed as 35–45 g per main meal and 15–20 g per snack.

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She argues women chronically under-eat protein because they’ve been taught to fear feeling full, and stresses that carbohydrate must be paired with protein to build lean mass.

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Aging increases anabolic resistance, so older women need more protein at more regular intervals; during heavy training blocks, she advises 10–15 g of protein before and 35–40 g after exercise.

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For vegans, the key is eating a larger volume of food to hit protein targets, relying on foods like green peas, edamame, quinoa, black rice, and tempeh, plus a hemp/brown rice protein powder when traveling.

Protocols

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Women's Daily Protein Intake Target

WhatConsume 1.8 to 2.3 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day (approx. 1 to 1.2 g per pound).
WhenEvery day, across all meals and snacks.
Dose1.8–2.3 g/kg/day, with the upper range for heavier training.
For whomAll women, especially those who are active and/or aging.
WhySupports lean mass building and repair, offsets chronic under-eating, and counters age-related anabolic resistance.
CaveatsWomen accustomed to low intake may need to increase gradually. Vegan women may need to eat higher volume to achieve this.

Stacy Sims argues that the conventional protein recommendations are far too low for women, particularly given the societal conditioning to undereat. The range of 1.8–2.3 g/kg is based on research supporting muscle protein synthesis and body composition in active females. She emphasizes that this is not an excessive amount but a necessary baseline to overcome deficits. The conversion to pounds (1–1.2 g/lb) makes it approachable for a non-metric audience. This target is then broken down into meal-specific doses which she spells out separately.

we're looking at 1.8 to 2.3 g per kilo per day. So, that's what around the 1 to 1.2 g per pound.

Also said
“really reaching for that protein is so important.”— Emphasizes the urgency of the recommendation.

Protein Per Meal Distribution

WhatAim for 35–45 g of protein at each main meal and 15–20 g at snacks.
WhenAt each of the three daily meals and any snacks.
Dose35–45 g per meal; 15–20 g per snack.
For whomWomen following a three-meal structure, particularly those who are active or older.
WhyTo provide repeated anabolic stimuli throughout the day, especially important for overcoming anabolic resistance in aging women.
CaveatsIf meal frequency differs, adjust timing but maintain regular protein pulses; total daily target still applies.

Sims explains that modern protein research supports the idea that protein intake is not just about total grams but also about distribution. A bolus of 35–45 g of protein (containing about 2.5–3 g of leucine) is needed to maximally stimulate muscle protein synthesis in most women. Spreading this across meals prevents long periods of catabolism. She ties this directly to the anabolic resistance of aging—older muscle needs a higher per-meal threshold. The snack guidance ensures that gaps between meals aren't too long, maintaining a positive net protein balance.

Mechanism

Muscle protein synthesis is triggered when leucine levels in the blood reach a critical threshold, which requires about 35–45 g of a high-quality protein. Smaller doses may not trigger this anabolic switch, especially in older tissues with blunted sensitivity. Eating protein at regular intervals ensures repeated threshold crossings, rather than a single large meal which only spikes synthesis once.

If you're having three meals a day, you want to get between 35 and 45 g of protein at each meal and then snacks are around 15 to 20 g.

Also said
“as we get older, we need it because we become anabolically resistant to exercise and food. So, we need more protein at more regular intervals.”— Provides the 'why' behind the distribution.

Training Protein Bookends

WhatConsume 10–15 g of protein before training and 35–40 g after training.
WhenDuring heavy training blocks, with the dose taken immediately before and after exercise.
Dose10–15 g pre-training; 35–40 g post-training.
For whomWomen in a heavy training block.
WhyPriming the system with amino acids before training reduces breakdown, and a large post-training dose fuels repair and adaptation.
CaveatsThis is additive to daily intake; on training days, total protein may be higher. Adjust pre-training dose to avoid GI upset.

Sims highlights that during periods of high training load, protein timing around exercise becomes critical to support recovery and performance. The pre-training protein (10–15 g) helps elevate blood amino acid levels, reducing muscle protein breakdown during the session. The post-training dose (35–40 g) then provides the building blocks for repair and supercompensation. This protocol works in tandem with carbohydrate intake, as she stresses the need for carbs alongside protein to enhance uptake and glycogen replenishment.

Mechanism

Exercise increases blood flow and amino acid uptake in muscle; having amino acids available pre-exercise minimizes catabolism. Post-exercise, insulin sensitivity is heightened and protein synthesis machinery is primed; a 35–40 g dose with carbohydrates maximizes the anabolic window.

if you're in a heavy training block, then you need to book in your training with 10 to 15 g protein before and 35 to 40 after.

Vegan Volume Eating for Protein

WhatConsciously eat a larger volume of whole plant foods to meet protein goals, focusing on high-protein options like green peas, edamame, quinoa, black rice, tempeh, nuts, and seeds.
WhenAt every meal, consistently.
DoseNo specific gram target beyond the daily 1.8–2.3 g/kg; achieved by increasing total food volume and including multiple protein-rich plants per meal.
For whomVegan women, especially those who are active.
WhyPlant foods are high in fiber and less calorie-dense, so a larger volume is needed to reach the required protein without relying on ultra-processed products.
CaveatsRequires a willingness to eat larger portions and potentially exceed 2,000 calories/day for active women. Those restricting calories will struggle to meet protein needs. May cause initial digestive discomfort from increased fiber.

Sims directly addresses the vegan protein challenge, acknowledging that it's harder but entirely feasible. She notes that the difficulty stems from the satiating fiber in plant foods, which makes people feel full before they've consumed enough protein. Her solution is to eat more—not just a little more but a significant increase in meal volume. She lists underappreciated high-protein plants and describes her own approach of mixing many different items to accumulate 35–40 g per meal. She also dispels the notion that vegans can get enough protein on a low-calorie diet, stating that active vegan women typically need over 2,000 calories a day to fuel training and recovery; those who stay at lower intakes see minimal physiological change because they fail to meet protein and energy needs.

Mechanism

The high fiber content of plant foods accelerates satiety signals and slows gastric emptying, limiting intake if one isn't accustomed. By deliberately increasing total food volume, more total protein can be ingested over a longer eating period.

Personal experience

Sims has been vegan since age 15. She structures her meals to include many different plant proteins to reach 35–40 g. When traveling, she carries a hemp and brown rice protein powder blend and will use whey isolate only in a pinch.

I make sure that I have something available with me at all times. So, I'm always looking at, okay, if it's a plant source that have protein in it, yep. Okay, good. So, my meals are mix of so many different things that then do add up to 35 to 40 g protein.

Also said
“unfortunately, when we're looking at plant-based vegan, eating a lot of plant stuff fills you up with fiber. So, you have to really learn to eat more”— Explains why volume is the key challenge.
“for those women who are physically active and doing quality training... their nutrition is easily in excess of 2,000 calories a day... I've seen very little change in physiology for those people who want to stay at a lower calorie goal”— Highlights the caloric requirement for active vegan women.

Travel Protein Strategy for Vegans

WhatCarry a homemade blend of hemp and brown rice protein powder for times when whole-food protein is unavailable, and use whey isolate only as a last resort.
WhenWhen traveling or in situations where adequate plant protein isn't accessible.
DoseNo specific dose given; use as needed to supplement meals to hit the target 35–45 g.
For whomVegans who travel frequently or lack consistent access to high-protein plant meals.
WhyEnsures protein needs are met without relying on heavily processed commercial options or missing targets entirely.
CaveatsWhey isolate is an animal product and not vegan—Sims uses it only in a pinch, which may not be acceptable to strict vegans.

Sims shares her personal travel hack, describing the difficulty of maintaining a vegan diet when crossing borders and dealing with limited food options. She blends hemp and brown rice protein to create a complete amino acid profile that is portable and easy to mix. She notes that she prefers not to use whey protein but will if no suitable plant option is available, showing a pragmatic approach to consistent protein intake. This protocol is a practical adaptation of her broader volume-eating strategy for when whole foods aren't accessible.

Personal experience

Sims travels frequently and finds it hard to maintain vegan protein levels from local foods alone. She relies on her own powder blend and openly admits to occasional whey use.

I travel with combination of hemp and brown rice protein as my protein powder. If I'm in a pinch, then I'll use a whey isolate, which I don't really like to, but I will if I'm in a pinch.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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women-protein-under-eating-cultural-fear

Women are chronically under-eating protein because they have been socialized to fear eating enough to feel full and satisfied.

Why this matters: Reframes women’s low protein intake as a learned cultural response, not just lack of knowledge, tying it directly to a fear of fullness and satiety.

Background

Traditional nutrition messaging has often emphasized calorie restriction and fear of certain macronutrients, leaving women cautious about protein's satiating effects.

Stacy Sims explains that women are taught to be afraid of feeling full and eating enough, and because protein is satiating, this cultural conditioning causes them to under-consume it. She points out that this fear is deeply ingrained and that overcoming it is essential for body composition and performance. Additionally, women are often encouraged to fear carbohydrates, but Sims emphasizes that carbohydrate and protein must be consumed together to build lean mass. The combination of under-eating protein and avoiding carbs results in a suboptimal metabolic environment, especially for active women.

women are highly under protein because we've been taught to fear eating and feeling good and feeling full and protein does that.

Also said
“we've also been taught to be very afraid of carbohydrate, but you need carbohydrate and protein together to build lean mass.”— Adds that the fear extends to carbs, and clarifies the synergistic need for both macros.

anabolic-resistance-aging-women

As women age they become anabolically resistant to exercise and food, requiring more protein at more frequent intervals to stimulate muscle protein synthesis.

Why this matters: Shifts the conversation from static protein RDA to a dynamic need that increases with age, highlighting a physiological reason for higher and more frequent protein intake.

Background

The standard RDA for protein (0.8 g/kg) does not account for age-related changes in muscle responsiveness. Anabolic resistance means the same dose of protein or exercise yields a blunted muscle-building response.

Sims explains that aging women develop anabolic resistance, meaning their muscles become less responsive to the anabolic signals from both food and exercise. To compensate, protein must be consumed in larger amounts and spaced throughout the day to repeatedly trigger muscle protein synthesis. This is why she advocates not only a higher total daily intake but also 35–45 g of protein at each main meal and snacks of 15–20 g. Without this adjustment, older women are at greater risk of sarcopenia and metabolic decline. She frames this as a necessary physiological countermeasure, not merely a performance optimization.

as we get older, we need it because we become anabolically resistant to exercise and food. So, we need more protein at more regular intervals.

carbohydrate-protein-lean-mass

Carbohydrate and protein must be consumed together to effectively build lean mass, contradicting the common fear of carbohydrates.

Why this matters: Directly counters the low-carb zeitgeist that influences many active women, asserting a mechanistic requirement for carbs in muscle building.

Background

Popular diets and fitness culture often promote very low carbohydrate intakes for fat loss, causing many women to avoid carbs even when trying to build muscle, which may be counterproductive.

Sims states that women have been taught to be afraid of carbohydrate, but the biological reality is that insulin from carbohydrates is an anabolic hormone that helps drive amino acids into muscle tissue. Without adequate carbohydrate, the protein consumed is not optimally utilized for lean mass repair and growth. She does not advocate unlimited carbs but emphasizes that pairing them with protein at meals and around training is essential. This is part of her broader message that women need to eat more, not less, to achieve body composition and performance goals.

you need carbohydrate and protein together to build lean mass.

Also said
“we've also been taught to be very afraid of carbohydrate, but you need carbohydrate and protein together to build lean mass.”— Explicitly ties the fear to the contradictory need.

vegan-volume-eating-protein

Vegan women can meet high protein needs by consciously eating a larger volume of food, focusing on dense plant sources like green peas, edamame, quinoa, black rice, and tempeh.

Why this matters: Challenges the assumption that vegans inevitably struggle to get enough protein without ultra-processed products, providing a practical volume-based strategy.

Background

Vegan diets are often criticized as low in protein, and many vegans rely on processed powders and meat substitutes. The prevailing view is that whole-food vegan intake is insufficient for athletic women.

Sims argues that the primary barrier for vegans is not the lack of protein-rich plants but the satiating high-fiber nature of those foods, which limits intake if one is accustomed to smaller meals. She says the solution is to simply eat more overall volume—more meals, larger portions—to accumulate enough protein. She lists accessible foods like green peas, edamame, quinoa, black rice, and tempeh as examples that add up to significant protein when eaten in larger quantities. She notes that this approach becomes easier once women get over the fear of eating enough calories and volume. For active vegan women, this often means eating in excess of 2,000 calories a day to support training and recovery, whereas lower calorie intakes lead to a static, non-adapting body.

Personal experience

Sims shares that she herself has been vegan since age 15. She says she eats a mix of many different plant foods at each meal to reach 35–40 g of protein. When traveling, she carries a hemp and brown rice protein powder blend and occasionally uses whey isolate if absolutely necessary.

you have to really learn to eat more because if you're eating more, then you're going to get more nuts and seeds and you're going to get sprouted grain breads. You're going to um be able to eat more edamame and green peas and you're just going to eat more volume of food with really, really good protein.

Also said
“I think people discount things like green peas are really high in protein. So is edamame and quinoa and black rice and tempeh”— Lists specific underappreciated high-protein plant foods.
“when you start increasing the volume of the food, then getting all that protein becomes relatively easy.”— Directly states the outcome of the volume strategy.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Hemp and Brown Rice Protein Blend

Supplement

Stacy Sims personally uses and travels with a homemade blend of hemp and brown rice protein to meet her protein needs on a vegan diet.

She describes this blend as a practical solution for vegans who need a portable, minimally processed protein source. Hemp and brown rice together provide a balanced amino acid profile. She contrasts this with her reluctant use of whey isolate, indicating that this blend is her first choice. The recommendation is embedded in her travel protocol and vegan strategy.

vs alternatives

Compared to heavily processed commercial vegan protein powders, this simple two-ingredient blend is customizable and avoids additives. Compared to whey, it is plant-based and aligns with her vegan principles, though she admits whey is an occasional backup.

Personal experience

Sims says she travels with this combination and uses it regularly to ensure she hits her per-meal protein targets when whole foods are unavailable.

I travel with combination of hemp and brown rice protein as my protein powder.

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Incorporating High-Protein Plant Foods at Every Meal

Practice

Sims recommends building meals around protein-dense plant foods such as green peas, edamame, quinoa, black rice, tempeh, nuts, and seeds to reach 35–40 g of protein per meal.

She emphasizes that people often overlook foods like green peas and edamame as significant protein sources. By deliberately including a variety of these in each meal, vegan women can accumulate enough protein without relying on powders or processed meat substitutes. She mentions that the current market offers many choices, making this easier than when she first became vegan. The practice is part of the larger volume-eating philosophy, where multiple components add up to the target.

vs alternatives

Compared to relying on soy-based meat analogs or single-source tofu, this practice provides a wider range of micronutrients and fibers, and may be more satisfying and less processed.

Personal experience

Sims says her own meals are 'a mix of so many different things' that add up to 35–40 g of protein, and she highlights these specific foods as staples.

green peas are really high in protein. So is edamame and quinoa and black rice and tempeh

Also said
“I think people discount things like green peas are really high in protein. So is edamame and quinoa and black rice and tempeh”— Reinforces the recommendation with a direct call-out to overlooked foods.
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Notable quotes

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women are highly under protein because we've been taught to fear eating and feeling good and feeling full and protein does that.
Sharply identifies the psychological root of under-eating, linking protein avoidance to a learned fear of satiety.
you need carbohydrate and protein together to build lean mass.
A clear, counter-cultural statement that directly challenges the prevalent fear of carbohydrates among women.
as we get older, we need it because we become anabolically resistant to exercise and food. So, we need more protein at more regular intervals.
Succinctly explains the physiological rationale for higher protein frequency with aging, using the term 'anabolically resistant'.
If you're having three meals a day, you want to get between 35 and 45 g of protein at each meal and then snacks are around 15 to 20 g.
Provides a concrete, actionable per-meal target that listeners can immediately implement.
you have to really learn to eat more because if you're eating more, then you're going to get more nuts and seeds and you're going to get sprouted grain breads. You're going to be able to eat more edamame and green peas and you're just going to eat more volume of food with really, really good protein.
Reframes vegan protein sufficiency as a matter of volume, not scarcity, in a vivid, encouraging way.
for those women who are physically active and doing quality training... their nutrition is easily in excess of 2,000 calories a day... I've seen very little change in physiology for those people who want to stay at a lower calorie goal
Draws a clear line between adequate calorie intake and physiological adaptation in active vegan women, warning against restriction.

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