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Menopause Masterclass: Hormones, Brain Fog, Weight & Mental Health
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Menopause Masterclass: Hormones, Brain Fog, Weight & Mental Health

Mary Claire Haver
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Menopause is defined as one year after the final menstrual period, but perimenopause begins 7–10 years earlier (as early as age 35) with brain fog, sleep disruption, and mood changes often preceding cycle changes.

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Visceral belly fat nearly triples across the menopause transition without changes in diet or exercise due to estrogen’s role in inflammation, fat storage, insulin sensitivity, and liver cholesterol processing.

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Vaginal estrogen is a safe, local therapy that prevents recurrent UTIs, reverses genital urinary syndrome symptoms (including delayed orgasm/clitoral atrophy), and is recommended prophylactically for all perimenopausal and postmenopausal women.

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For mental health symptoms arising in perimenopause, stabilized hormone therapy should be first-line before antidepressants, yet only 8% of OB/GYN residents feel competent to treat menopause.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Prophylactic vaginal estrogen

WhatUse low-dose local estradiol cream, tablet, or ring regularly to maintain vaginal and urethral tissue health in all perimenopausal and postmenopausal women, regardless of symptoms.
WhenBegin at perimenopause or menopause; continue indefinitely as long as no contraindication.
DoseA typical tube lasts about two months; dosing is usually 2-4 times weekly or per prescription.
For whomAll perimenopausal and postmenopausal women with a vagina, including breast cancer survivors (after consultation).
WhyPrevents genital urinary syndrome (thinning of tissues, loss of elasticity, recurrent UTIs, painful intercourse, orgasmic dysfunction) and reduces risk of sepsis from UTIs.
CaveatsDoes not protect the heart or bones; it is local only. Lubricants and moisturizers are still recommended for intercourse. Confirm with clinician if any personal risk factors.

Haver frames vaginal estrogen as essential skin care for the pelvic area. She notes that 30% of collagen is lost from skin in the first five years of menopause, contributing to thinning and fragility. Without estrogen, the urethra and vaginal introitus become more susceptible to mechanical trauma and infection. She recounts her personal story of delayed orgasm due to clitoral atrophy that resolved with vaginal estrogen, even though she was on systemic HRT. She also highlights that many clinicians erroneously believe vaginal estrogen carries the same risks as systemic estrogen, but the literature does not support that.

Mechanism

Vaginal estradiol restores local estrogenic action on the mucosa and submucosa, improving blood flow, collagen synthesis, transepidermal water retention, and maintenance of a healthy vaginal microbiome that blocks uropathogens. It does not raise systemic estradiol levels significantly and avoids the risks associated with systemic hormone therapy.

Personal experience

Within a month of using it as prescribed, the situation had rectified itself. Clitoral atrophy reversed, orgasm time normalized.

Vaginal estrogen is local therapy. It is, to quote Dr. Kelly Casperson, skin care for down there. It does not absorb systemically.

Also said
“The number one treatment for the prevention of recurrent urinary tract infections is not antibiotics. You should not be on antibiotics as a first-line therapy. You should be on vaginal estrogen.”— Positions vaginal estrogen as first-line UTI prevention.
“You actually should never suffer at all. Prophylactic vaginal estrogen is safe. Even if you have active breast cancer, you can use it.”— Emphasizes the proactive approach and safety in breast cancer.

Lubricant use with every intimate encounter

WhatApply a lubricant before any sexual intercourse to reduce friction and tissue trauma.
WhenDuring any sexual activity, regardless of vaginal estrogen use or perceived natural lubrication.
DoseAs needed per event; use vitamin E-based, oil-based, or silicone-based lubricants (avoid silicone with silicone toys).
For whomAll postmenopausal and perimenopausal women engaging in vaginal penetration.
WhyVaginal tissues will never fully return to premenopausal resilience; lubrication prevents microtrauma, pain, and further atrophy.
CaveatsFor those using silicone vibrators, check lubricant compatibility to avoid damaging the toy. Water-based or hybrid lubes may be alternatives.

Haver underscores that even on optimal vaginal estrogen, tissues are still vulnerable. She compares it to applying moisturizer to skin—lubricant provides immediate slip and protection. She recommends having both a moisturizer (hyaluronic acid-based) for daily hydration and a lubricant for sexual activity.

Personal experience

I wasn’t having dryness… we always use lubricant though, so I wouldn’t really know if I was having dryness... Lubricate, lubricate, lubricate, hydrate.

I just say lubricate, lubricate, lubricate, hydrate. And so, I like a vaginal moisturizer. So, the big differences between the two. A vaginal moisturizer pulls water. It's usually made heavily with hyaluronic acid.

Also said
“Intercourse is traumatic to the tissues. And so, I just say lubricate, lubricate, lubricate, hydrate.”— Plainly states the protective rationale.

Vaginal moisturizer for daily hydration

WhatUse a hyaluronic acid-based vaginal moisturizer regularly to maintain tissue hydration, especially for women who are active (e.g., hiking) or experiencing chafing.
WhenDaily or as needed, particularly before activities that may cause friction.
DoseApply as directed; no specific duration.
For whomAll postmenopausal women, even without sexual activity, particularly those with labial or vulvar chafing.
WhyPulls water into tissues, adding moisture and reducing friction/chafing, especially as anatomical changes with age increase skin-on-skin rubbing.
CaveatsNot a substitute for lubricant during sex; may need both.

Haver shares that due to age-related changes in labial anatomy, activities like hiking in loose shorts cause chafing. A moisturizer provides a barrier and hydration that prevents this irritation. She differentiates moisturizer from lubricant: moisturizer adds moisture over time, lubricant adds slipperiness for immediate friction reduction.

Mechanism

Hyaluronic acid can hold up to 100x its weight in water, acting as a water-binding humectant in the vaginal epithelium.

Personal experience

When I have shorts on the like Nike shorts with the built-in underwear, after a few hours of hiking, I start getting chafing in certain areas. So, a moisturizer is miraculous for that.

Adding some hydration in the area. I just love it.

Systemic menopausal hormone therapy (estradiol ± progesterone) for symptomatic perimenopause

WhatReplace declining estradiol with body-identical transdermal or oral estradiol, and add oral micronized progesterone if uterus is present, to stabilize the chaotic hormonal environment of perimenopause.
WhenStart as close to menopause as possible (within 10 years or before age 60) for maximal cardiovascular and bone benefit; can be initiated later after informed discussion.
DoseIndividualized dosing; can be as low as $25/month for generic transdermal estradiol and oral progesterone. No mandatory stop age; continue as long as benefits outweigh risks.
For whomSymptomatic perimenopausal and postmenopausal women, especially those with new-onset depression/anxiety in perimenopause. After age 60, consider cardiovascular risk assessment but still permissible.
WhyRestores neuroendocrine stability, relieves vasomotor symptoms, protects bone density, reduces first heart attack risk as much or more than a statin when started early, and improves mental health symptoms.
CaveatsIf uterus present, progesterone is mandatory to prevent endometrial hyperplasia/malignancy. Not for those with certain hormone-sensitive cancers or history of clots (individual risk-benefit). Oral progesterone may increase anxiety in 10–15% of women; alternatives exist. Testosterone not included in standard HRT.

Haver details that first-line therapy for new mental health symptoms in perimenopause should be hormone therapy, not antidepressants. She criticises the outdated 2002 WHI study that scared clinicians and women away from HRT. She explains the difference between estradiol, estrone, estriol, and the importance of body-identical formulations. For women without a uterus, progesterone is optional but often helpful for sleep via GABA agonism. She notes that estrogen is FDA-approved for osteoporosis prevention and that nothing else holds that indication.

Mechanism

Estradiol acts on estrogen receptors throughout the body, reducing systemic inflammation (IL, CRP), improving endothelial function, maintaining bone remodeling balance, and stabilizing neurotransmitter systems (serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine) in the brain. Progesterone/alopregnanolone binds GABA receptors, promoting calm and sleep.

Personal experience

I'm on reluctantly on hormone therapy and thought I don't need vaginal estrogen. I'm covered. I'm on systemic estrogen. Why would I need it? And I was having no symptoms... that was a mistake.

We want to stabilize her hormones with menopause hormone therapy and those patients are doing quite well. So first line therapy should be hormone therapy and then if needed secondarily adding an anti-depressant if needed should not be first-line therapy.

Also said
“Women on hormone therapy tend to live longer than their counterparts who were not offered hormone therapy, 2 to 3 years longer. They have better bone density. They have lower rates of heart disease if they start early enough.”— Quantifies the longevity and disease-prevention benefits of HRT.
“By giving a woman hormone therapy... if you start her close to her menopause within 10 years or before the age of 60, you will decrease her risk of a first heart attack as much or more than a statin will than lowering her cholesterol with a statin.”— Emphasizes the cardiovascular timing window and potency.

Testosterone therapy for age-related decline in women

WhatMicro-dose transdermal testosterone using men’s product (e.g., testostem, androgel) at approximately one-tenth the male dose to restore levels to those of a younger adult, improving libido, muscle mass, and overall vitality.
WhenOnce testosterone deficiency confirmed by labs and symptoms; typically midlife and beyond.
DoseOne-tenth of standard male dose, applied daily; adjust based on therapeutic response and blood levels. No end date if tolerated.
For whomWomen with low testosterone and symptoms (low libido with supportive partner, low muscle mass) and no contraindications. Not for those who simply dislike their partner.
WhyTestosterone declines with age; replacement can improve hypoactive sexual desire, muscle retention, bone support, and general well-being.
CaveatsNo FDA-approved female product in the US; using men’s products off-label. Pellets are highest risk and most expensive; transdermal is preferred. Monitor for acne, hair growth, and liver effects if oral (though oral not recommended). Only prescribe if serum testosterone is low, but she personally used it for low-normal levels.

Haver recounts the disparity in education about testosterone, previously considered exclusively male. She now sees it as a hormone of homeostasis. She emphasises that testosterone is not a magic bullet for relationship issues; the partner must be someone the patient still loves and respects. She warns against pellet-only practices and high-pressure sales, advocating for affordable transdermal microdosing. She shares that even women who do not score clinically for HSDD may experience enhanced quality of life.

Mechanism

Testosterone binds androgen receptors in the brain (libido centres), muscle tissue (promoting protein synthesis and lean mass preservation), and bone. It may also influence dopaminergic pathways involved in desire and motivation.

Personal experience

I get on this medication and within about a month, my husband got cuter... I may have even started initiating which had not happened in quite some time... If you took it away from me, I would miss that.

In our clinic we do transdermal options and... we borrow the men's version and micro dose it. So we take test stem or androgel and we give a tenth of the male dose which tends to work very well for most patients.

Also said
“Testosterone does not fall off a cliff like estrogen and progesterone do through the menopause transition. Just like in a man, testosterone has an age related very steady state slow decline over time.”— Clarifies the different kinetics of testosterone loss.
“I would not have gone and qualified to be treated for HSDD. But... if you took it away from me, I would miss that. And I think my husband would miss it too.”— Personal anecdote that therapy benefit extends beyond clinical diagnosis.

Strength training and protein intake for muscle preservation in menopause

WhatEngage in resistance training and consume adequate protein to combat menopause-related muscle loss (sarcopenia) and maintain metabolic health.
WhenThroughout perimenopause and beyond, at least 2–3 times per week.
DoseNo specific dose given; emphasizes regular progressive resistance training and protein targets not specified but likely >1.2 g/kg based on general recommendations.
For whomAll perimenopausal and postmenopausal women.
WhyMuscle mass protects bones, reduces frailty and fall risk, and preserves metabolic rate; muscle is lost during menopause due to hormonal changes and inflammation.
CaveatsNot a substitute for hormone therapy but a complementary pillar. She notes that genetics may limit muscle gain—goal is function, not aesthetics.

Haver mentions that even with busting my ass eating protein and lifting weights, her in-body scanner still flags low muscle mass because of genetics. However, she stresses that the objective is to keep her out of a nursing home by building reserves against sarcopenia and osteoporosis. This is part of her overall pillars of health that include hormone therapy, diet, exercise, stress reduction, and sleep.

Mechanism

Resistance training applies mechanical tension that upregulates muscle protein synthesis and improves insulin sensitivity, partly counteracting the anabolic resistance induced by estrogen deficiency and inflammation.

Personal experience

I am busting my ass trying to eat the protein and lift the weights. Why? Not so that I can look like a bodybuilder... but to keep me out of a nursing home when I get older.

People with higher muscle mass have stronger bones and have less incidence of frailty and sarcopenia.

Discernment when choosing a hormone therapy provider

WhatSeek a menopause-certified clinician (MD, DO, NP, PA) who offers multiple FDA-approved bioidentical options and does not exclusively push pellets or supplements as a replacement for standard hormone therapy.
WhenWhen considering or starting hormone therapy.
For whomAll women seeking menopausal care.
WhyAvoid cookie-cutter approaches, high-cost pellets lacking evidence for superiority, and providers without specific menopause training.
CaveatsChiropractors and some ‘wellness’ clinics may steer patients toward expensive supplements instead of evidence-based hormone therapy. Pellets are a legitimate delivery method but are often overpriced and overpromoted; transdermal options can be $25/month.

Haver clarifies that many types of hormone therapy exist: oral, transdermal, vaginal, pellets. The problem with some pellet clinics is that they advertise that pellets will fix everything, charge high fees, and fail to offer safer, cheaper alternatives. She urges women to dig deeper and find providers who understand the full risk-benefit landscape and do not default to pellets alone. She quotes that only 8% of OB/GYN residents feel competent in menopause, making specialty menopause practitioners valuable.

If someone is starting to steer you away from the gold standard of menopause treatment, of hormone therapy, and give you a bucket of supplements, saying that you don't need them, I would caution you to dig deeper and go to someone who actually has menopause education and experience.

Also said
“The person you should be getting your hormone therapy advice from is someone who is trained specifically in menopause therapy and in menopause care. That could be an internist, that could be a family medicine physician... What it probably isn't is a chiropractor.”— Directly names a red-flag provider type.
“Pellets are the most expensive, the highest risk, and it's a 40-year plan basically... you have better options.”— Highlights the drawbacks of pellets as a method.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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delayed orgasm as a sign of genital urinary syndrome of menopause

Dr. Haver realized her own difficulty achieving orgasm was due to clitoral atrophy from inadequate estrogen reaching genital tissues, not lack of arousal. Vaginal estrogen resolved it within a month.

Why this matters: Even a menopause expert missed this symptom in herself; it underscores how underrecognized GSM is and how many women suffer silently.

Background

Classic GSM teaching focused on dryness, pain, and UTIs. Decreased arousal and delayed orgasm were rarely discussed as hallmarks of clitoral/urogenital atrophy.

Dr. Haver had been on systemic hormone therapy for about two years and assumed her genitourinary symptoms were covered. She used lubricants regularly and had no classical dryness or pain. Yet she noticed that reaching orgasm took longer and longer, causing significant frustration. Only after a conversation with her colleague Dr. Karen Men did she connect the dots: systemic estrogen wasn’t reaching the vulvovaginal tissues sufficiently. Within one month of adding vaginal estradiol as prescribed, her orgasmic function normalized. This personal revelation highlighted that GSM symptoms can be subtle and often go unreported, and that vaginal estrogen should be considered even in women on systemic HRT.

Personal experience

I about two years ago, I started noticing that I was struggling with orgasm. What used to take just a few minutes was taking longer and longer and longer... I would just remember being incredibly incredibly frustrated. I wasn’t having dryness. I wasn’t and we always use lubricant though, so I wouldn’t really know if I was having dryness... I, as a menopause expert who talks about menopause all day on the internet, did not realize that my delayed orgasms could be and were a sign of genital urinary syndrome of menopause.

I probably was having clitoral atrophy from not enough estrogen making it through my bloodstream to get to the genital urinary tissues and I was having poor blood flow to the area.

Also said
“And she said, 'What Mary Claire?' I mean, she laughs so hard. And let me tell you, within a month of using it as prescribed, the situation had rectified itself.”— Shows the rapid efficacy of local estrogen once the problem was identified.

testosterone therapy for muscle and libido despite normal HSDD scores

Haver experimented with transdermal testosterone to raise her levels to those of a younger adult, and noticed improved muscle retention, subtle libido boost, and heightened attraction to her husband even though she didn’t qualify for hypoactive sexual desire disorder.

Why this matters: Challenges the notion that testosterone is only indicated for diagnosed HSDD; even healthy, low-normal women may experience benefits, and she advocates for personalized dosing.

Background

Historically, testosterone was ignored in women's health, seen as a male hormone, and no FDA-approved women’s product existed. Age-related decline leads to about 50% reduction by age 50.

After measuring her own low muscle mass via in-body scanner and seeing naturally low testosterone levels for her age, Haver wondered whether replenishing testosterone to her 25-year-old levels could help her build or maintain muscle—a key factor in avoiding sarcopenia and frailty later in life. She had no libido complaints, and her validated HSDD screening would have been normal. Within a month of micro-dosing a men’s testosterone gel (one-tenth the male dose), she noticed an unexpected uptick in desire: her husband seemed more attractive, she initiated sex more often, and orgasm was no longer an issue thanks to concurrent vaginal estrogen. She emphasizes that she doesn’t sell testosterone and that her experience shouldn’t be misconstrued as pushing pellets; she simply now considers it a quality-of-life tool.

Personal experience

I get on this medication and within about a month, my husband got cuter. I was like, 'What is happening?' ... Suddenly, there was an uptick of interest in the area. I may have even started initiating which had not happened in quite some time... I tell you right now, if you took it away from me, I would miss that.

I know that from studies, women who naturally had higher testosterone levels... by the time you're 50, you probably have about 50% of the level you had at 20... I checked my testosterone level and it was on the expected low end for my age. And I thought, I have low muscle mass.

Also said
“I don't sell testosterone. I'm not trying to make any money off of testosterone, but I would not have gone and qualified to be treated for HSDD. But I tell you right now, if you took it away from me, I would miss that.”— Clarifies that this is anecdotal and not profit-driven, while underscoring the perceived benefit.
“In our clinic we do transdermal options and... we borrow the men's version and micro dose it. So we take test stem or androgel and we give a tenth of the male dose.”— Explains the practical off-label prescribing method used since no FDA-approved women’s product exists in the US.

estrogen receptor map changed understanding of menopause symptoms

A paper mapping estrogen receptors throughout the body showed Haver that nearly every organ system is affected by estrogen loss, explaining symptoms like frozen shoulder, palpitations, insulin resistance, and elevated cholesterol.

Why this matters: This was a pivotal shift in her medical practice; she realized menopause is a multi-system endocrine event, not just a reproductive milestone.

Background

Traditional OB/GYN training focused on vasomotor symptoms, vaginal dryness, bone loss, and heart disease, but missed brain, joint, liver, and metabolic impacts.

Haver describes how seeing the receptor distribution ‘took my breath away.’ Estrogen receptors in the brain, heart, bone, muscle, liver, joints, bladder, and skin mean that the withdrawal of estradiol at menopause triggers a cascade of inflammatory and metabolic changes across all those tissues. This explained why patients presented with frozen shoulder, arthralgias, elevated LDL, new-onset pre-diabetes, palpitations, and cognitive changes that she previously dismissed as unrelated. It cemented her commitment to educating clinicians and patients that menopause is a systemic state of estrogen deficiency with far-reaching consequences.

Personal experience

I had no idea that so many organ systems could be affected. That symptoms like palpitations, like frozen shoulder, like elevated cholesterol, like insulin resistance, pre-diabetes are all having to do with menopause.

One of the papers that truly changed my life was researchers mapped out where the estrogen receptors were in the body. And that took my breath away.

Also said
“The natural estrogen in our systems while we're still ovulating and healthy is very protective of the human body. It protects our joints. It protects our liver function. It protects the way we process glucose. It determines where and how we store fat.”— Reinforces the breadth of estrogen’s protective roles beyond reproduction.

perimenopause origin in the brain, not ovaries

Haver emphasizes that perimenopause starts with chaotic hormonal signaling from the hypothalamus and pituitary due to ovarian resistance, causing brain fog and mental health changes before menstrual irregularity.

Why this matters: Many clinicians and patients still equate perimenopause solely with cycle changes, leading to missed diagnoses in younger women.

Background

Traditional teaching prioritized hot flashes and irregular bleeding; brain symptoms were either ignored or attributed to stress/aging.

As ovarian egg supply dwindles to a critical threshold, the hypothalamus senses low estrogen and drives the pituitary to pump out more FSH and LH. The ovaries struggle to respond, creating a ‘zone of chaos’ in the brain. This neuroendocrine instability manifests as fatigue, sleep disruption, anxiety, depression, and a vague sense of ‘not feeling like myself,’ often years before periods change. Haver notes that in her practice she now recognizes patients as young as 35 presenting with these brain-first symptoms.

Personal experience

For most patients, when you really look at the things starting in the brain, the fatigue, the sleep disruption, the mental health changes, the just not feeling something is wrong and you can't put your finger on it, that is perimenopause.

So quite often the first sign that we see in perimenopause is not cycle dysregulation that is late in perimenopause. It is brain fog, mental health changes, and sometimes just feeling I don't feel like myself.

prophylactic vaginal estrogen for all postmenopausal women

Haver advocates that vaginal estrogen should be prescribed prophylactically to prevent genital urinary syndrome and recurrent UTIs, rather than waiting for irreversible tissue damage.

Why this matters: This is a departure from the outdated approach of treating only after severe symptoms appear, and she cites data showing even breast cancer survivors can use it safely and may live longer.

Background

Previous guidelines often limited vaginal estrogen to symptomatic women and cautioned about systemic absorption, leading to underuse.

Haver argues that waiting until the vagina is dry, painful, or infected is akin to waiting for the skin to break before moisturizing. She states that all women in perimenopause and beyond should consider prophylactic vaginal estrogen. The vaginal tissue loses 30% of its collagen in the first five years postmenopause, and the microbiome protection against uropathogens wanes. Studies show no increased recurrence risk even in active breast cancer patients; in fact, survivors who used vaginal estrogen lived longer, likely due to prevention of deadly UTIs and sepsis. She stresses that the warning labels on systemic estrogen do not apply to local vaginal preparations.

In my world, in the menopausey, many of us believe that all women in perimenopause and beyond should be on prophylactic vaginal estrogen. Why would we wait until the vagina breaks before we decide to treat it?

Also said
“There has never even in active breast cancer patients even in post even in survivors ever shown and they've looked at the data extensively there is no elevated risk of recurrence for a patient to use vaginal estrogen and the greatest studies show that patients who had vaginal estrogen versus those who did not who were survivors lived longer.”— Cites specific safety data countering common fears.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Vaginal estradiol (local estrogen)

Supplement

Low-dose vaginal estradiol cream, tablet, or ring for local treatment and prevention of genitourinary syndrome of menopause (GSM). Available generically for $10–15 per tube lasting ~2 months.

Haver strongly advocates this as first-line prevention for recurrent UTIs and treatment for vaginal atrophy, thinning, dryness, and orgasmic dysfunction. She contrasts with systemic estrogen, emphasizing no systemic absorption of concern. She dispels myths about breast cancer risk, stating it is safe even in survivors without increasing recurrence.

vs alternatives

Superior to systemic estrogen for isolated GSM because it avoids systemic exposure while providing direct tissue benefits. Much cheaper than alternatives like prasterone (Intrarosa) or ospemifene.

Personal experience

Used personally and resolved clitoral atrophy and delayed orgasm within one month.

Vaginal estrogen you can get for 10 15 bucks a tube that'll last you for a couple of months.

Also said
“The greatest studies show that patients who had vaginal estrogen versus those who did not who were survivors lived longer. Vaginal estrogen saves lives.”— Addresses the counterintuitive finding that its use improved survival in breast cancer survivors.
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Prasterone (Intrarosa)

Supplement

A vaginal DHEA prescription that converts locally to both estrogen and testosterone, used as an alternative to vaginal estrogen for GSM.

Prasterone is a vaginal insert that provides both estrogenic and androgenic effects locally, which may be beneficial for women who need additional androgen support for sexual function. Haver mentions colleagues in sexual medicine are big fans. However, it lacks a generic and can be pricey. It is used in place of vaginal estrogen, not alongside it.

vs alternatives

Offers the advantage of local testosterone delivery, which standard vaginal estrogen lacks. May be superior for women with low libido or arousal issues related to androgen deficiency, but cost is a barrier.

Personal experience

I've never tried it personally myself.

When we're talking about vaginal hormones, this one is different because it is the prescription form of DHEA... When we put the prasterone in the vagina, it converts naturally to both estrogen and testosterone.

Also said
“My friends in the sexual medicine world are huge fans of this medication because they're not only getting that boost of estrogen there, they're also getting testosterone.”— Expert endorsement from sexual medicine specialists.
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Ospemifene (Osphena)

Product

An oral SERM that acts as an estrogen agonist in vaginal tissues but antagonist in breast tissue, used for GSM in breast cancer survivors.

Haver notes she has not prescribed it yet but describes it as an option for women who cannot or prefer not to use vaginal estrogen. It is an oral pill with selective estrogen receptor modulation, providing vaginal benefits without systemic estrogen exposure to the breast. She recommends discussing it with a doctor, especially for breast cancer survivors.

vs alternatives

Offers a non-vaginal oral alternative for those who dislike topicals and is theoretically safer for patients with estrogen-sensitive cancers due to breast antagonism.

Personal experience

I've not prescribed it yet.

It is an oral formulation that allows estrogen to work its magic in the vagina, but blocks in the breast tissue. So, for breast cancer survivors, this may be a great formulation for you.

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The New Menopause (implied by research reference)

Book

During her research for the book The New Menopause, Haver reviewed extensive medical literature to compile the lists of symptoms and organ system effects. The book likely contains comprehensive guidance.

While not overtly advertised in this episode, Haver references researching for 'the new menopause' as a source of the data she presents. This positions the book as a resource for women wanting deeper dives into evidence on menopause symptoms and treatment.

When I was researching for the new menopause, I was trying to find as much medical evidence and papers that were written, and actually there was quite a few that demonstrated from organ system to organ system what symptoms might be experienced.

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Also said
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Personal experience

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Personal experience

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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Post-menopause represents the entire lifespan that we have where we have to learn how to live without the hormones produced in our ovaries.
Frames menopause not as an endpoint but the beginning of a long hormoneless existence, emphasizing the importance of proactive health management.
So quite often the first sign that we see in perimenopause is not cycle dysregulation that is late in perimenopause. It is brain fog, mental health changes, and sometimes just feeling I don't feel like myself.
Challenges the common narrative that perimenopause is primarily about irregular periods; puts brain symptoms first.
By giving a woman hormone therapy and this is something that the women's health initiative did show if you start her close to her menopause within 10 years or before the age of 60, you will decrease her risk of a first heart attack as much or more than a statin will than lowering her cholesterol with a statin.
Directly compares HRT to statins, powerfully reframing hormone therapy as cardiovascular prevention.
Vaginal estrogen saves lives. Why? because it decreases the risk of recurrent UTI which can lead to sepsis which will kill you.
Starkly connects a commonly dismissed menopausal issue to mortality, underlining the seriousness of GSM.
You actually should never suffer at all. Prophylactic vaginal estrogen is safe. Even if you have active breast cancer, you can use it.
A bold, clear statement overturning decades of fear-driven hesitancy about estrogen in cancer patients.
The goal is not to make women younger. This is not a get your wife back moment. This is medication that is meant to restore a balance that your body is missing and is struggling to perform at its highest capacity without.
Pushes back against anti-aging marketing and reframes hormone therapy as physiological restoration.

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