Women's hormone replacement therapy is broken: outdated patches, pills, and creams fail to deliver adequate hormones, and doctors undertreat due to fear and lack of science. Dr. Sarah advocates vaginal delivery of progesterone and estrogen as the most effective route, and using progesterone to let the body convert to testosterone rather than direct supplementation.
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Low hormones in women cause anxiety, depression, gut issues, autoimmunity, and relationship breakdown long before hot flashes. Hormone optimization should be foundational, not a last resort, and considered even for women in their 20s and 30s if symptoms exist.
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Dave Asprey shares his personal transformation with testosterone therapy after being told at 26 he had less testosterone than his mom, and emphasizes that both sexes need balanced estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone for longevity, brain function, and libido.
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Dietary factors like excess fiber, oxalates, and plant-based diets disrupt hormones; reducing fiber, increasing protein, and avoiding high-oxalate foods (spinach, almonds, matcha) support hormone balance, but diet alone cannot replace HRT.
Protocols
Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why
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Vaginal progesterone and estrogen for systemic hormone replacement
WhatUse vaginal suppositories or creams of progesterone and estradiol to achieve physiological hormone levels, bypassing liver metabolism and first-pass through the uterus.
WhenDaily or twice daily, for women of any age with low hormone symptoms (anxiety, depression, gut issues, autoimmunity, low libido).
DoseDose titrated to suppress FSH and resolve symptoms; not a fixed low dose. Dr. Sarah's clinic treats tens of thousands of women this way.
For whomWomen with low hormone symptoms, including younger women (20s–30s) and those in perimenopause/menopause. Not limited to postmenopausal women.
WhyVaginal delivery is porous and goes directly into the bloodstream, with first-pass metabolism through the uterus, which produces beneficial metabolites. It avoids the liver's degradation of oral hormones and the poor absorption of patches/creams (only 30%).
CaveatsTestosterone should not be used vaginally daily as it can disrupt the vaginal microbiome. Progesterone and estradiol are safe for daily vaginal use. Monitor for symptom resolution, not just lab numbers.
Dr. Sarah explains that current FDA-approved formulations (patches, pills, creams) were designed for 55-year-old women to get through menopause with minimal relief, not for longevity or optimal health. They deliver tiny doses that don't achieve physiological levels. Patches and creams have only 30% absorption; pills are degraded by the liver into toxic metabolites. Vaginal delivery overcomes these limitations. She emphasizes that women need all three hormones (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone) and that giving only one, like a little progesterone, suppresses FSH but leaves the woman feeling terrible because she's not getting everything her ovaries would make. The goal is to suppress FSH with a full replacement, then optimize further with diet and supplements. Dave Asprey notes that in his concierge practice, women on patches or creams often have low hormone levels on labs, and switching to effective delivery transforms them—like watering a wilted plant.
Mechanism
The vaginal wall is highly vascular and absorbs hormones directly into the systemic circulation. The uterus then metabolizes them, creating unique metabolites that regulate local and systemic effects. This mimics natural physiology more closely than oral or transdermal routes. Progesterone converts downstream to testosterone and other hormones as needed, allowing the body to self-regulate ratios.
Personal experience
Dr. Sarah: 'When I was going through it... I tried everything, literally everything. This is for progesterone specifically. All of them because women need all three hormones.' Dave Asprey: 'The women in that program who get on hormones quite often... they're not getting hormone replacement because the doctors just haven't heard the latest news or they're getting a little patch that doesn't work. And when we test their levels, you can see it doesn't work. And then we change how they're getting it. And it's like watching when you water a plant that needs water, like it just comes to life.'
Vaginal delivery, you know, vagina, I guess, is like another superpower. Like, it's a superpower for women... the vaginal wall is porous. It goes right into the bloodstream. Not only that, you get a first pass metabolism through the uterus, which is where the hormones probably should be metabolized.
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“We do not have equivalent formulations. So, even if you were to go find a better doctor that was going to give you... there's nothing available that would work for you.”— Highlights the lack of effective options.
“If you give her enough vaginal progesterone, she will convert and make and raise her testosterone levels to at least normal to that 30 to 50 range.”— Shows how progesterone alone can normalize testosterone.
Iodine supplementation for breast health and estrogen metabolism
WhatTake iodine (Lugol's solution 2% or kelp) starting at 2,000 mcg/day to treat fibrocystic breast disease and support estrogen clearance, then reduce to maintenance once or twice a week after pain resolves.
WhenDaily initially, then taper. Can be taken orally. Also, topical application on skin can be used to assess deficiency (drop on arm, if absorbed quickly, you're deficient).
DoseAt least 2,000 mcg/day for treatment; maintenance once or twice a week. Use Lugol's 2% (Dr. Sarah's typical recommendation) or 5-10% (Dave's preference). Kelp pills are an alternative but require many pills.
For whomWomen with fibrocystic breasts, breast pain, dense breast tissue, or those on HRT. Also for general population due to widespread deficiency.
WhyIodine is needed by breasts and uterus to metabolize estrogen. Deficiency leads to fibrocystic breasts, density, cysts, and may be a precursor to breast cancer. It also displaces toxic halides (bromide, fluoride).
CaveatsInitial detox reaction may cause flushing, headache, fatigue as bromide/fluoride are displaced. This can be mistaken for thyroid worsening. Start low and increase slowly. Too much iodine can cause watery sinuses (a sign to back off) and may disrupt gut microbiome at very high doses. Those with Hashimoto's may see a temporary antibody spike but should not avoid iodine long-term.
Dr. Sarah explains that 90% of women starting HRT have fibrocystic breast disease, and iodine is the only way to properly metabolize estrogen in breast and uterine tissue—not the liver. She criticizes the fear-mongering around iodine and Hashimoto's, arguing that the temporary worsening of symptoms is due to halide detox, not true thyroid damage. Dave Asprey adds that he was cautious about iodine due to regulatory concerns but includes a moderate dose in his Minerals 101. He describes the old-school skin test: apply a drop of Lugol's iodine to the inner arm; if it disappears in less than 24 hours, you're deficient. Once levels are replete, the stain persists and you may get a runny nose if you take more. He prefers 5-10% Lugol's, calling the 2% on Amazon 'stupid.' Both agree that avoiding iodine because of Hashimoto's is a mistake; you need it everywhere in the body.
Mechanism
Iodine is concentrated in breast and uterine tissue, where it participates in estrogen metabolism and apoptosis of abnormal cells. It also supports thyroid function, but the breast and uterus have more iodine receptors than the thyroid. When iodine is supplemented, it binds to receptors occupied by bromide and fluoride, pushing them out and allowing normal estrogen metabolism to resume. This reduces cystic changes and pain.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'In my mid20s when my testosterone was lower than my mom, my thyroid levels were almost undetectable. I was a wreck and I just remember the lights coming back on... I had Hashimoto's. Probably still do have antibodies, they go away and come back sometimes.' He uses the skin test regularly.
The only way that you can metabolize estrogen actually it's not again it's not the liver your breasts and your uterus are getting rid of estrogen so just you need the iodine to actually do that.
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“90% of them have fibrocystic breast disease. they have density and cysts and um the only way that you can metabolize estrogen actually it's not again it's not the liver your breasts and your uterus are getting rid of estrogen.”— Quantifies the prevalence and the unique role of iodine.
“When they start iodine what happens is it binds fluoride and bromide... these are extremely toxic... which can be attributed to possibly thyroid symptoms where these studies are they show that if you take iodine it makes your symptoms worse.”— Explains the detox reaction misinterpreted as harm.
Limit fiber to under 30g/day, favor soluble over insoluble
WhatReduce total fiber intake to no more than 30 grams per day, emphasizing soluble fiber (e.g., from fruits, cooked vegetables) and avoiding insoluble fiber (bran, whole grains, raw roughage).
WhenDaily dietary practice, especially for women with hormone imbalances, SIBO, or bloating.
Dose≤30g total fiber/day; no specific soluble/insoluble ratio given, but minimize insoluble.
For whomWomen with low estrogen symptoms, SIBO, bloating, or those on HRT who experience worsened bloating.
WhyInsoluble fiber binds to hormones and nutrients, lowering estrogen levels and potentially causing anxiety. It also feeds bacteria in the lower intestine, contributing to SIBO and bloating. Soluble fiber is fermented by gut bacteria and does not steal hormones.
CaveatsSome soluble fiber is beneficial for bacterial diversity, but excessive amounts are unnecessary. Meat contains 'animal fiber' (collagen) that gut bacteria can ferment into butyrate, so plant fiber is not essential.
Dr. Sarah states that women are overdoing fiber, and that lowering fiber can raise estrogen levels. She notes that switching from a plant-based to an animal-based diet raises estrogen. Dave Asprey adds that women need more nourishment than men and become stressed more quickly when nutrients are lacking; fiber exacerbates this by absorbing nutrients. He distinguishes soluble from insoluble fiber, saying soluble is generally better. He also mentions that collagen is an 'animal fiber' that gut bacteria can turn into butyrate, referencing his Bulletproof Diet research. Both agree that the modern obsession with fiber for regularity is misguided; estrogen is needed for gallbladder function and bowel movements, so constipation in aging women may be due to low estrogen, not lack of fiber.
Mechanism
Insoluble fiber acts as a bulking agent that can adsorb bile acids, hormones, and minerals, preventing their reabsorption and increasing their excretion. This can lower circulating estrogen. Soluble fiber dissolves in water and is fermented by gut bacteria into short-chain fatty acids, which support gut health without binding hormones.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'I did a bunch of tests on it for my longevity book, and then there's insoluble fiber. What's the difference? Well, I think that soluble tends to be better in that it's not going to... that's what steals all the stuff.'
Fiber will lower your estrogen levels. So, can you switch to diets, you know, from a plant-based to an animal based, for example, you will raise your estrogen levels that way.
Also said
“If you're taking handfuls of sawdust every day, which is what bulk fiber is, and it absorbs the things your body needs, and then you walk around feeling anxious all the time, maybe it's the fiber.”— Vividly links fiber to anxiety via nutrient depletion.
“As you get older and you start to become constipated, it's not an increase in fiber that you need, it's estrogen that you need in order to go to the bathroom.”— Reframes constipation as a hormonal issue.
Increase protein intake to slow COMT and preserve hormones
WhatConsume more protein (especially animal protein) to overwhelm the COMT pathway, slowing the breakdown of dopamine, estrogen, and testosterone.
WhenDaily, particularly for individuals with fast COMT genetics who methylate and excrete hormones rapidly.
DoseNo specific gram amount given; emphasis on adequate protein at each meal, especially from sources like ribeye steak.
For whomWomen (and men) with fast COMT genetics, those who feel their testosterone or estrogen doesn't last between doses, or those with low dopamine symptoms.
WhyA fast COMT gene leads to rapid clearance of catecholamines and hormones, resulting in lower levels and symptoms like poor focus, low mood, and hormonal insufficiency. High protein intake provides amino acids that compete for the COMT enzyme, effectively slowing the pathway and prolonging hormone action.
CaveatsThis is a dietary optimization on top of hormone replacement, not a substitute. Women often undereat protein due to dieting; they should prioritize protein and fat.
Dr. Sarah explains that some women have a fast COMT gene, causing them to burn through dopamine, testosterone, and estrogen quickly. This can be seen on labs as lower levels. Increasing protein intake can slow this pathway, helping them feel more focused, calm, and allowing their hormone levels to last longer. Dave Asprey adds that women often don't eat enough protein, starving themselves to lose weight, which lowers dopamine and libido. He jokes that there's nothing sexier than a woman eating a ribeye, and that men appreciate a woman who eats heartily. Both agree that diet alone cannot fix hormone deficiencies but is a powerful adjunct.
Mechanism
COMT (catechol-O-methyltransferase) methylates and deactivates dopamine, norepinephrine, estrogens, and catecholamines. Genetic variants can speed up this process. High protein intake increases the pool of amino acids that require methylation, competitively inhibiting COMT and slowing the breakdown of hormones and neurotransmitters.
The more protein intake you can do does overwhelm the COMT pathway and slow it down. So individuals with a fast COMT gene, if you increase protein intake, you can keep your estrogen a little bit longer, keep your testosterone a little bit longer.
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“They will notice that they feel better. They feel more focused. They feel more calm. They feel like their testosterone can last that 24 to 48 hours till their next dose.”— Describes the subjective benefits.
Testosterone cream for acute sexual enhancement (date night)
WhatApply a small amount of testosterone cream to the labia and clitoris for immediate increased blood flow and sensitivity.
WhenAs needed, before sexual activity; not for daily use due to microbiome disruption.
DoseSmall amount (not specified); used occasionally.
For whomWomen seeking a short-term libido/arousal boost, especially in a relationship context.
WhyTestosterone applied topically to genital tissue causes vasodilation and heightened sensation, enhancing sexual pleasure temporarily.
CaveatsDaily use can disrupt the vaginal microbiome. May cause hair shedding if used excessively or systemically. Not a substitute for foundational hormone balance.
Dr. Sarah mentions that testosterone cream used vaginally is sometimes called 'scream cream' because of its potent effects. She says it's fine for occasional use but not daily due to microbiome disruption. Dave Asprey enthusiastically recommends it for date night, saying it will cause 'blood flow like you've never seen before and your toes will curl.' They both frame it as a fun, optimizing tool rather than a primary treatment.
Mechanism
Testosterone is a vasodilator; when applied to mucous membranes, it increases local blood flow, engorging tissues and increasing sensitivity. It also may directly stimulate nerve endings.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'I would recommend for all women, even if they're doing the vaginal progesterone first kind of direction that you've got, you should have some testosterone cream if you're in a relationship because it's really useful on date night. Like it just believe me on this.'
You put a small amount of testosterone around the labia on the clit and you'll see blood flow like you've never seen before and your toes will curl. It's pretty fun.
Also said
“They call it scream cream. Exactly.”— Colloquial name indicating its potency.
Low-oxalate diet to prevent kidney stones and chronic pain
WhatReduce intake of high-oxalate foods (spinach, almonds, matcha, dark chocolate, raspberries, sweet potatoes, beets, whole grains) and increase citric acid (lemon juice) to dissolve oxalate crystals.
WhenDaily dietary practice, especially for those with kidney stones, joint pain, chronic UTIs, or fertility issues.
DoseKeep oxalate intake under 200 mg/day. Add lemon juice or citric acid regularly.
For whomIndividuals with a history of kidney stones, interstitial cystitis, chronic UTIs, vulvodynia, joint pain, or infertility. Also those consuming a high-oxalate 'superfood' diet.
WhyOxalates form razor-sharp calcium crystals that deposit in tissues, causing pain, stones, and organ damage. Limiting intake and increasing citric acid helps prevent crystal formation and dissolve existing deposits.
CaveatsCollagen and glycine supplements can also convert to oxalate endogenously, so high doses should be avoided if prone to stones. Some healthy foods are high in oxalates; it's about moderation, not complete elimination.
Dave Asprey explains that oxalates are plant protective compounds. The body can handle about 200 mg/day, but a typical superfood diet can exceed 1,000 mg. He notes that 70% of kidney stones are oxalate-based. Dr. Sarah shares her personal experience with matcha-induced kidney stones. Dave adds that collagen and glycine can convert to oxalate via the glyoxylate pathway, so excessive collagen supplementation can also cause stones. He recommends white rice and white flour over whole grains because they are much lower in oxalates. He also mentions that oxalates accumulate in ovaries and uterus, potentially affecting fertility, especially in vegans. The low-oxalate challenge he did helped many people resolve chronic pain and UTIs.
Mechanism
Oxalates are dicarboxylic acids that bind calcium to form insoluble crystals. These crystals are sharp and can physically damage tissues, causing inflammation and pain. Citric acid chelates calcium, preventing oxalate crystallization and helping dissolve existing stones.
Personal experience
Dr. Sarah: 'I was doing the matcha for a long time... and then just got a bunch of kidney stones and lit up the CT scanner with kidney stones. Haven't had one since though.' Dave Asprey: 'I'm the world's biggest collagen fan and excessive collagen converts to oxalate in the body as well.'
Oxalates are plant protective compounds. When you eat the parts of the plants they don't want you to eat, they form razor sharp calcium crystals that accumulate in your ovaries, in your brain, in your uterus, in your breasts, in your joints, anywhere you've had an injury and in your kidneys.
Also said
“You can handle 200 milligrams a day for the average metabolism. And if you eat the superfood diet with matcha and unfortunately dark chocolate, and raspberries and even sweet potatoes... you can get a gram a day, five times more than your body can handle.”— Quantifies the safe limit and typical overdose.
“You get chronic UTI not because of bacteria because you have little glass shards slicing your urethra where the bacteria get in.”— Explains a non-infectious cause of UTIs.
Use FSH to assess ovarian function and guide HRT dosing
WhatMeasure follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) as a marker of ovarian strain; rising FSH indicates the ovaries are struggling, and HRT should be titrated to suppress FSH.
WhenWhen evaluating hormone status in women of any age, especially those with symptoms but unclear lab results.
DoseSingle blood test; trend over time.
For whomWomen with suspected hormone insufficiency, regardless of age or menstrual status.
WhyFSH rises when the brain senses low ovarian hormone output, similar to TSH for thyroid. Suppressing FSH with adequate HRT indicates sufficient replacement.
CaveatsLabs for individual hormones (estrogen, progesterone) are unreliable due to circadian and cycle variations, and reference ranges are not well-established. Treat symptoms, not numbers.
Dr. Sarah explains that traditional hormone labs are problematic because reference ranges for optimal levels don't exist (only five papers worldwide on optimal progesterone ranges). Additionally, levels fluctuate widely depending on time of day and cycle phase. FSH offers a more stable indicator of overall ovarian function. She notes that even a small tick upward in FSH can signal early decline. When HRT is given, FSH should be suppressed; if only one hormone (e.g., progesterone) is given, FSH may drop but the woman still feels bad because she's missing other hormones. The goal is full replacement to suppress FSH and resolve symptoms.
Mechanism
The pituitary releases FSH to stimulate the ovaries to produce estrogen and progesterone. When ovarian function declines, FSH increases as a compensatory mechanism. Providing exogenous hormones suppresses FSH via negative feedback, indicating the brain is satisfied with hormone levels.
FSH is follicular stimulating hormone... if your ovaries in a female are not functioning like they should... the brain will start to panic. Releases FSH to stimulate the ovary to make more. So you'll see this get higher and higher.
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“Once we know that her FSH is rising, we can if you put her on the hormone replacement therapy, it will suppress her own production, which is okay because within women, it can be really erratic.”— Explains the therapeutic rationale.
Progesterone for men to raise testosterone and improve stability
WhatMen can take oral progesterone (100-200 mg) to increase testosterone levels and reduce swings from testosterone injections, particularly for those who over-convert to DHT or estrogen.
WhenAt night, as progesterone can cause drowsiness. Can be used alongside testosterone therapy.
Dose100-200 mg orally; may allow reduction of testosterone dose.
For whomMen on testosterone replacement who experience mood swings, irritability, or high DHT/estrogen. Also men with sleep issues.
WhyProgesterone is a precursor that can convert to testosterone, providing a smoother, more stable increase. It may also counteract over-conversion to DHT or estrogen.
CaveatsCan cause drowsiness, so best taken at night. High doses may require lowering testosterone dose. Not a first-line treatment but an optimization tool.
Dr. Sarah mentions that men do need progesterone and often love it. She finds it converts to testosterone in men, so it can raise testosterone levels. For men who over-convert to DHT or have swings from twice-weekly injections, progesterone can provide stability and allow a lower testosterone dose. Dave Asprey recalls an old functional medicine doctor who recommended progesterone for everything, even rubbing it on a sore neck. He suggests men try progesterone before bed if they can't sleep. Dr. Sarah notes that oral progesterone's metabolites (like allopregnanolone) are sedating, which is why it helps sleep. For men, a small oral dose is sufficient because they don't need the massive amounts women require.
Mechanism
Progesterone sits upstream in the steroidogenesis pathway and can be converted to testosterone and other androgens. By providing progesterone, the body can self-regulate conversion based on enzymatic activity, potentially avoiding the peaks and troughs of injected testosterone. It also has calming effects via GABA receptor modulation.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'I had a guy on maybe 800 episodes ago... the entire episode no matter what the health problems, you eat progesterone. Progesterone, sore neck, rub it on your sore neck... he actually kind of had a point.'
Men do need progesterone. I actually think they really love it. I find that also converts testosterone in men. So, you can raise testosterone levels in men with progesterone as well.
Also said
“If you have a really heavy DHT converter, you can start higher up and they may convert less and they might feel more calm and stable because sometimes with those injections... you can get swinging.”— Explains the stabilizing effect.
What's new
Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions
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Women's libido is driven by estrogen and progesterone, not testosterone
Dr. Sarah argues that the mainstream focus on testosterone for female libido is misguided; estradiol and progesterone are foundational, and vaginal progesterone can convert to sufficient testosterone for most women.
Why this matters: Challenges the common practice of prescribing testosterone to women for low libido, and reframes female sexual desire as receptive and bonding-oriented rather than drive-based.
Background
Conventional medicine often treats low libido in women with testosterone creams or pellets, extrapolating from male physiology. Many functional medicine doctors also emphasize testosterone.
Dr. Sarah explains that the egg does not seek the sperm; women's libido is receptive, open, and tied to connection, bonding, and safety. Estradiol receptors flood the limbic system and estradiol behaves like MDMA, creating a receptive nature. Progesterone and estradiol are foundational to women's libido, yet they receive no credit. Testosterone can cause unwanted effects like constant arousal (one patient felt like masturbating all day) and hair loss. She prefers to give enough vaginal progesterone so the body converts it to testosterone, achieving levels of 30–50 ng/dL naturally. Only if libido is still insufficient does she consider adding a testosterone cream, but warns about hair shedding. This shifts the paradigm from 'testosterone is the libido hormone' to a balanced, female-specific model.
Personal experience
Dr. Sarah recounts a patient on testosterone who said, 'I was with my family... and I felt like masturbating all day long. Is this how men feel? This is awful.' Dave Asprey jokes that's how healthy men feel.
Estradiol behaves like MDMA for example too it creates this kind of receptive nature... progesterone and estradiol are foundational to women's libido, and we do not give them any credit.
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“The egg does not go towards the sperm the egg sits and is very receptive... women's libido is receptive and open and there's connection and bonding and safety.”— Provides the biological metaphor for the different nature of female libido.
“I'd have patients tell me, 'Well, I was with my family... on testosterone and I felt like masturbating all day long.' She's like, 'Is this how men feel? This is awful.'”— Illustrates the downside of testosterone-centric approach.
Hormone replacement should start in younger women, not just at menopause
Dr. Sarah asserts that women in their 20s and 30s with symptoms like anxiety, gut issues, or autoimmunity often have low hormones and should be treated, not told to wait until hot flashes.
Why this matters: Counters the standard medical advice that HRT is only for perimenopause/menopause, and that symptoms in younger women are due to other causes.
Background
Traditionally, hormone therapy is reserved for women around menopause, and younger women with irregular cycles or mood issues are given birth control or antidepressants.
Dr. Sarah points out that women in their 20s can have hormone levels of a 90-year-old. The period is meaningless as a marker; what matters is ovarian function. Environmental toxins (pesticides, phthalates, parabens) bind to estradiol receptors, and birth control suppresses natural hormone production. If a 25-year-old has eliminated environmental chemicals and still has symptoms, bioidentical hormones should be considered because the risk of not being on hormones is greater than being on them. She notes that autoimmunity (Hashimoto's, lupus) and food sensitivities in young women are often hormonal in origin, not just gut issues. Waiting until hot flashes means you've waited a decade too long.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey shares that at 26 he had less testosterone than his mom, and getting on testosterone changed his life. He wishes that for every mid-20s man or woman.
If you have hot flashes, you've waited about a decade too long.
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“We have women in their 20s who have levels of a 90-year-old.”— Quantifies the severity of early hormone decline.
“The risk of not being on the hormones is greater than being on the hormones.”— Justifies early intervention.
Fiber steals hormones and causes SIBO; women should limit intake
Dr. Sarah and Dave Asprey argue that excessive fiber, especially insoluble fiber, binds hormones and nutrients, worsens SIBO, and that women need less fiber and more protein.
Why this matters: Contradicts mainstream dietary advice that high fiber is universally healthy, and links fiber directly to hormone depletion and gut dysbiosis.
Background
Public health guidelines encourage high fiber intake for heart health and regularity. Many women consume large amounts of whole grains, vegetables, and fiber supplements.
Dr. Sarah explains that fiber lowers estrogen levels, and women are overdoing it—no more than 30 grams a day. Soluble fiber is less problematic because gut bacteria metabolize it, but insoluble fiber acts like sawdust, absorbing nutrients and hormones. She notes that 90% of people have SIBO, and starting HRT can worsen bloating because the hormones feed the bacteria. Dave Asprey adds that soluble fiber can be beneficial for bacterial diversity, but insoluble fiber is the culprit. He also mentions that collagen acts as an animal fiber that gut bacteria can ferment into butyrate. The key is to prioritize protein and fat over fibrous plants, especially for hormone-dysregulated women.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey says he's a fan of soluble fiber and did tests for his longevity book, but warns against insoluble fiber. Dr. Sarah jokes about people making going to the bathroom a full-time job.
Fiber will lower your estrogen levels. So, can you switch to diets, you know, from a plant-based to an animal based, for example, you will raise your estrogen levels that way.
Also said
“Women are like overdoing fiber, eating no more than 30 grams a day.”— Gives a specific upper limit.
“If you're taking handfuls of sawdust every day, which is what bulk fiber is, and it absorbs the things your body needs, and then you walk around feeling anxious all the time, maybe it's the fiber.”— Vividly describes the mechanism of nutrient depletion and anxiety.
Wild yam cream is ineffective for hormone replacement
Dr. Sarah and Dave Asprey debunk the idea that wild yam cream converts to progesterone in the body, stating it requires nine chemical steps in a lab and the skin is a barrier to large molecules.
Why this matters: Directly challenges a popular natural remedy marketed to menopausal women.
Background
Wild yam cream is widely sold as a natural source of progesterone, based on the presence of diosgenin, which can be converted to progesterone industrially.
Dr. Sarah says wild yam cream is 'complete bullshit.' The enzyme needed to convert diosgenin to progesterone is not present in humans. Even if it were, the skin is a barrier designed to keep things out; large hormone molecules cannot penetrate effectively (only about 30% absorption for topical hormones). Dave Asprey adds that it takes nine steps in a chemistry lab to turn yams into progesterone, and no one is a chemistry lab. He jokes that vegans might believe it, but it only makes you feel superior and empties your checking account.
Wild yam cream? No, it's so yam it's first of all it's complete bullshit... there's really good science of it takes nine steps in a chemistry lab to turn yams into progesterone.
Also said
“The skin is a barrier. It's meant to keep things out. So you're trying to put if anytime you try to put something on the skin to try to get it into the body unless it's a small molecule like iodine, you're not going to get more than 30% of these massive hormones to get through.”— Explains the absorption problem.
Iodine is essential for breast and uterine health, and deficiency is widespread
Dr. Sarah advocates iodine supplementation to treat fibrocystic breast disease and support estrogen metabolism, countering the fear that iodine worsens Hashimoto's.
Why this matters: Challenges the common warning that iodine should be avoided in autoimmune thyroid conditions, and highlights its role beyond the thyroid.
Background
Many doctors tell patients with Hashimoto's to avoid iodine, citing studies that it can increase antibodies. Iodine is also often overlooked in women's health.
Dr. Sarah states that 90% of women starting HRT have fibrocystic breast disease, and iodine is necessary for the breasts and uterus to metabolize estrogen. Iodine deficiency is rampant because it's not in the diet, and bromide and fluoride from the environment bind to iodine receptors. When starting iodine, these toxins are displaced, causing temporary symptoms like flushing, headaches, and fatigue, which are misinterpreted as thyroid worsening. She recommends at least 2,000 mcg/day to treat fibrocystic breast disease, then tapering to once or twice a week after pain resolves. Dave Asprey adds that he was cautious about iodine due to regulatory concerns but includes a moderate dose in his Minerals 101. He also describes the old-school test of applying Lugol's iodine to the skin: if it disappears quickly, you're deficient. He warns that too much iodine can cause watery sinuses and disrupt the gut microbiome, but it's hard to overdose.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey shares that in his mid-20s his thyroid levels were almost undetectable, and he had Hashimoto's. He saw the lights come back on with treatment, and his antibodies fluctuate. He uses the skin test to gauge iodine status.
The only way that you can metabolize estrogen actually it's not again it's not the liver your breasts and your uterus are getting rid of estrogen so just you need the iodine to actually do that.
Also said
“We have more iodine receptors than the thyroid... doctors will tell women to stay away from the very things that will make them healthy, which is hormones and iodine.”— Highlights the broader importance of iodine.
“When they start iodine what happens is it binds fluoride and bromide... these are extremely toxic... which can be attributed to possibly thyroid symptoms where these studies are they show that if you take iodine it makes your symptoms worse.”— Explains the detox reaction that leads to the false belief that iodine is harmful.
Oxalates from superfoods cause kidney stones, joint pain, and fertility issues
Dave Asprey and Dr. Sarah discuss how high-oxalate foods like spinach, almonds, matcha, and dark chocolate form razor-sharp crystals that accumulate in tissues, causing a range of health problems.
Why this matters: Warns against popular 'health' foods and connects oxalates to chronic pain, UTIs, and infertility, which is rarely discussed in mainstream nutrition.
Background
Oxalates are plant defense compounds. The body can handle about 200 mg/day, but a typical superfood diet can provide over 1,000 mg. Excess oxalates form calcium oxalate crystals that deposit in kidneys, joints, ovaries, uterus, and breasts.
Dave Asprey explains that oxalates are razor-sharp crystals that cause micro-damage, leading to chronic UTIs (not from bacteria but from glass shards slicing the urethra), interstitial cystitis, joint pain, and kidney stones. He notes that 70% of kidney stones are oxalate-based. Dr. Sarah shares that she developed kidney stones from daily matcha tea and collagen, and they stopped when she quit. Dave adds that collagen and glycine can convert to oxalate via the glyoxylate pathway, so excessive collagen supplementation can also cause stones. He recommends limiting high-oxalate foods, increasing citric acid (lemon juice) to dissolve crystals, and being cautious with collagen doses. He also mentions that whole grains are high in oxalates, while white flour is low. For fertility, oxalates can deposit in ovaries and uterus, especially in vegans.
Personal experience
Dr. Sarah: 'I was doing the matcha for a long time... and then just got a bunch of kidney stones and lit up the CT scanner with kidney stones. Haven't had one since though.' Dave Asprey: 'I'm the world's biggest collagen fan and excessive collagen converts to oxalate in the body as well.'
Oxalates are plant protective compounds. When you eat the parts of the plants they don't want you to eat, they form razor sharp calcium crystals that accumulate in your ovaries, in your brain, in your uterus, in your breasts, in your joints, anywhere you've had an injury and in your kidneys.
Also said
“You can handle 200 milligrams a day for the average metabolism. And if you eat the superfood diet with matcha and unfortunately dark chocolate, and raspberries and even sweet potatoes... you can get a gram a day, five times more than your body can handle.”— Quantifies the safe limit and the typical overdose.
“You get chronic UTI not because of bacteria because you have little glass shards slicing your urethra where the bacteria get in.”— Explains a non-infectious cause of UTIs.
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Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode
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Lugol's iodine (5% or 10%)
Supplement
Recommended by Dave Asprey for iodine supplementation. He prefers 5-10% strength, calling the 2% on Amazon 'stupid.' Used for the skin test and oral supplementation.
Dave Asprey explains that the 2% Lugol's sold on Amazon is too weak. He recommends 5-10% for the skin test: apply a drop to the inner arm; if it disappears in less than 24 hours, you're deficient. Once levels are replete, the stain persists and you may get a runny nose if you take more. Dr. Sarah actually recommends the 2% to her patients because it feels safer and still works, but Dave insists on higher potency.
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Compared to kelp pills, which require many capsules to reach therapeutic doses. Lugol's is more concentrated.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'The old test that I learned from 80-year-old people... you get lugal iodine and it needs to be five or 10%. The 2% they sell on Amazon is bullshit. It's like water. It's stupid.'
You get lugal iodine and it needs to be five or 10%. The 2% they sell on Amazon is bullshit. It's like water. It's stupid.
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“You put a drop on your arm right here, like the size of a dime, just one drop, and you rub it in and you let it sit there. If it's gone in less than 24 hours, your body is sucking it up because it needs it.”— Describes the deficiency test.
Apply a drop of Lugol's iodine (5-10%) to the inner arm. If the stain disappears in less than 24 hours, you are deficient and should supplement. Once levels are replete, the stain persists and further supplementation may cause a runny nose.
This is an old-school biohacker trick Dave Asprey learned from elderly longevity practitioners. It provides a simple, at-home way to gauge iodine status without labs. He uses it himself and recommends it.
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Compared to blood or urine iodine tests, this is free, immediate, and can be done repeatedly.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'I've done this for years. Then if you put on, you know, five or 10 drops and you put it on and then it sticks around for 24 hours, good. You got your levels up where they needed to go.'
You put a drop on your arm right here, like the size of a dime, just one drop, and you rub it in and you let it sit there. If it's gone in less than 24 hours, your body is sucking it up because it needs it.
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“There's a really easy way to tell when you've hit your iodine max. you get watery sinuses, not mucus. It's like water in your nose.”— Describes the sign of iodine sufficiency.
Matcha tea (as a source of EGCG, but caution for oxalates)
Supplement
Dr. Sarah used to drink matcha for its anti-cancer compounds but switched to a pill form after developing kidney stones. Dave Asprey also takes a matcha pill for longevity benefits without the oxalate load.
Matcha contains EGCG and other compounds directly toxic to ovarian cancer cells. However, it is extremely high in oxalates. Dr. Sarah developed multiple kidney stones from daily matcha and collagen. She now takes a concentrated pill to get the benefits without the oxalates. Dave Asprey agrees and does the same. They suggest that if you enjoy matcha, have it occasionally (once a week) rather than daily.
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Matcha pills provide the beneficial polyphenols without the oxalate load of the whole leaf powder.
Personal experience
Dr. Sarah: 'I was doing the matcha for a long time because one it's e you know the compounds in it are directly toxic to ovarian cancer cells... and then just got a bunch of kidney stones.' Dave Asprey: 'That's what I do. I've taken it for many years. It's a really good longevity compound. So I just switched to that instead of drinking the matcha tea.'
The compounds in it are directly toxic to ovarian cancer cells and cancer cells and just this overall benefits which now you can just take a pill.
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“Matcha is a very high dose of oxalate... you can handle 200 milligrams a day. I lived it.”— Quantifies the oxalate risk.
A comprehensive longevity program with $40,000 worth of lab testing and a year of personalized coaching. Used to optimize hormones, including switching women from ineffective patches to effective delivery methods.
DisclosureDave Asprey mentions it as his own program multiple times.
Dave Asprey describes Unlimited.life as his concierge longevity practice where they run extensive labs and work with clients for a full year. He notes that even successful women with expensive doctors often aren't on proper HRT, and when they join the program, they get switched to effective hormone delivery and experience dramatic improvements—like a wilted plant coming back to life. The program addresses hormones as foundational, then layers on diet, supplements, and other optimizations.
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Compared to typical concierge medicine or functional medicine practices that may still prescribe patches or pellets, Unlimited.life emphasizes effective delivery and comprehensive testing.
Personal experience
Dave Asprey: 'With unlimited.life, which is the Concier's longevity practice that I'm working with. You we have $40,000 worth of lab testing... the women in that program who get on hormones quite often, even though they're very successful, have expensive doctors, they're not getting hormone replacement... And then we change how they're getting it. And it's like watching when you water a plant that needs water, like it just comes to life.'
With unlimited.life, which is the Concier's longevity practice that I'm working with. You we have $40,000 worth of lab testing. It's like we know everything about you and we work with you for a whole year.
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“And then we change how they're getting it. And it's like watching when you water a plant that needs water, like it just comes to life.”— Illustrates the transformative effect of proper HRT delivery.
A telemedicine practice treating women in all 50 states, focusing on hormone replacement therapy using vaginal delivery of progesterone and estrogen.
DisclosureDr. Sarah is the founder/doctor at Inbalance; she mentions it at the end.
Dr. Sarah states that Inbalance treats only women, using the protocols she described—vaginal progesterone and estrogen to achieve physiological levels, with iodine and dietary support. They treat tens of thousands of patients. She emphasizes that their approach is based on treating symptoms and FSH, not arbitrary lab ranges.
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Unlike many clinics that use patches, pills, or pellets, Inbalance uses vaginal delivery as the primary route, which Dr. Sarah argues is more effective and mimics natural physiology.
I'm online in 50 states. So, at inner www.inbalance.com, we treat only women. Um, but we treat them in all 50 states.
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“We treat tens of thousands... of patients. So like this is this is not like a theory.”— Indicates large clinical experience.
A clinically proven NAD+ supplement that increased NAD+ levels by 67% in double-blind placebo-controlled studies. Recommended for longevity, mitochondrial support, and energy.
DisclosureDave Asprey's podcast sponsor; he reads an ad.
Dave Asprey's ad highlights that NAD+ is a youth molecule that repairs DNA, supports mitochondria, and regulates inflammation. Levels drop by half by age 40. Qualia NAD+ is one of the few supplements with a clinical study on the product itself, not just ingredients. He offers a discount code and 100-day money-back guarantee.
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Compared to other NAD+ supplements that lack clinical proof on the final product.
Qualia NAD+ is one of those. In multiple doubleblind placeboc controlled studies, it increased NAD+ levels by 67%.
An electrolyte packet containing L-citrulline, arginine nitrate, ginseng, and vitamin C to boost nitric oxide for sexual performance and circulation. 83% of men in studies noticed better performance.
DisclosureDave Asprey's podcast sponsor; he reads an ad.
Dave Asprey's ad positions Joy Mode as a sexual performance optimizer that also supports training and recovery by increasing nitric oxide. It's taken 45 minutes before sex, with effects lasting a few hours. Daily use raises baseline circulation. He offers a 20% discount.
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Compared to other sexual enhancement supplements, Joy Mode is backed by actual studies on the product.
83% of men using Joy Mode daily notice better performance in the bedroom.
A mineral supplement that includes a moderate dose of iodine for maintenance, not treatment. Mentioned as a way to get baseline iodine without risking excess.
DisclosureDave Asprey mentions it as his own product.
Dave Asprey says he includes iodine in Minerals 101 at a dose that is safe for maintenance, acknowledging regulatory caution. He differentiates this from the high-dose iodine treatment for fibrocystic breasts.
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Compared to high-dose Lugol's, this is for daily maintenance rather than therapeutic treatment.
I include it in minerals 101. So if you guys are on vitamin D and minerals 101, you're getting a moderate dose of iodine because that's what I can put in there.
Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased
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If you've reached in a relationship like a kind of a plateau like a stable equilibrium where you're both eh, you know, we're kind of roommates and like things are good and then one of the two is like, I will eat you alive. it's not going to end well.
Vividly captures the danger of mismatched libido in long-term relationships and the primal nature of desire.
I recommend with 100% certainty if one partner goes on hormone replacement therapy you have to put the other one on because otherwise... it's not going to end well.
A bold, absolute statement about the necessity of balancing hormones in couples to avoid relationship breakdown.
Your doctor works for you. That's how it works, right? ... And if you're a woman and your doctor says, get a better doctor.
Empowering call to fire doctors who undertreat women's hormones, highlighting the systemic failure.
We don't give men testosterone pills or topical creams or patches.
Succinctly points out the double standard in hormone therapy: men get effective injections, women get inferior formulations.
If you have hot flashes, you've waited about a decade too long.
Shocking reframe that the classic menopause symptom is a late-stage sign, urging earlier intervention.
Estradiol behaves like MDMA for example too it creates this kind of receptive nature.
Provocative comparison that makes the neurochemical role of estrogen memorable and underscores its importance for female libido.
Plants don't like when you eat their babies, so they punch you in the face when you do it.
Dave Asprey's humorous but accurate description of plant defense chemicals like oxalates and lectins.
There's nothing sexier than a woman eating ribeye.
A memorable, counter-cultural quip that ties nutrition, femininity, and attraction together.
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